The author of "The Jesus I Know" tells the stories of her friends and acquaintances whose lives have been radically transformed by Jesus Christ.
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Life Today with James Robison | Kathie Lee Gifford - Jesus Conversations | June 9, 2022
- >> Why do we think it is our job
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- to tell people how to live out their faith?
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- If we could just...
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- If they want our opinions, let them ask us.
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- Otherwise, if we could just love people.
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- And then when they ask for our opinion,
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- if we could deliver it with love and gentleness
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- and a tender spirit, like the Bible says to do,
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- what a world we'd live in.
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- Kathie Lee Gifford shares captivating conversations
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- about her faith in Jesus. Next on LIFE Today!
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- ♪
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- SHEILA: Welcome to LIFE Today !
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- SHEILA: Welcome to LIFE Today ! I'm Sheila Walsh;
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- SHEILA: Welcome to LIFE Today ! I'm Sheila Walsh; I'm so glad you stopped by.
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- I'm Sheila Walsh; I'm so glad you stopped by. I have a feeling
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- I'm so glad you stopped by. I have a feeling you will be too.
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- I have a feeling you will be too. Our dear friend,
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- Kathie Lee Gifford,
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- Kathie Lee Gifford, has a fantastic new book out.
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- Kathie Lee Gifford, has a fantastic new book out. It is called
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- has a fantastic new book out. It is called The Jesus I Know :
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- It is called The Jesus I Know : "Some amazing conversations."
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- The Jesus I Know : "Some amazing conversations." So welcome, Kathie.
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- "Some amazing conversations." So welcome, Kathie. Thank you for being with us.
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- So welcome, Kathie. Thank you for being with us. KATHIE: I always love
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- Thank you for being with us. KATHIE: I always love to be with you, Sheila.
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- KATHIE: I always love to be with you, Sheila. Thank you for
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- to be with you, Sheila. Thank you for showcasing this book.
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- It is unlike any other book
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- It is unlike any other book I've ever written.
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- It is unlike any other book I've ever written. I let other people
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- I've ever written. I let other people tell their stories.
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- I let other people tell their stories. I usually write other
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- people's stories, but I said
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- people's stories, but I said no, I'm going to sit down
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- people's stories, but I said no, I'm going to sit down with these amazing people
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- no, I'm going to sit down with these amazing people that the Lord has
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- with these amazing people that the Lord has blessed me with.
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- that the Lord has blessed me with. Some of them were in my life
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- blessed me with. Some of them were in my life for decades,
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- Some of them were in my life for decades, like Kris Jenner.
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- for decades, like Kris Jenner. Or for the last 20 years
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- like Kris Jenner. Or for the last 20 years like Kristin Chenoweth.
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- Or for the last 20 years like Kristin Chenoweth. Others like a gentleman who
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- like Kristin Chenoweth. Others like a gentleman who was just here from Australia
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- Others like a gentleman who was just here from Australia that I was privileged to lead
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- was just here from Australia that I was privileged to lead to the Lord in a hotel lobby
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- that I was privileged to lead to the Lord in a hotel lobby just a couple months ago;
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- to the Lord in a hotel lobby just a couple months ago; I wanted him
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- just a couple months ago; I wanted him to share his story.
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- I wanted him to share his story. So it's a motley crew,
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- to share his story. So it's a motley crew, as we've discussed
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- So it's a motley crew, as we've discussed in another show.
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- as we've discussed in another show. A motley crew of individuals
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- in another show. A motley crew of individuals at different points
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- A motley crew of individuals at different points in their walk, their journeys
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- at different points in their walk, their journeys because God is such
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- in their walk, their journeys because God is such an individual, personalized
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- because God is such an individual, personalized custommade God.
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- an individual, personalized custommade God. We're all at different points
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- custommade God. We're all at different points in our journey, and
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- We're all at different points in our journey, and our stories are not always
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- in our journey, and our stories are not always tied up neatly with a bow.
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- our stories are not always tied up neatly with a bow. Sometimes there is a...
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- tied up neatly with a bow. Sometimes there is a... Sometimes there is
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- Sometimes there is a... Sometimes there is a question mark,
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- Sometimes there is a question mark, sometimes there is a couple
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- a question mark, sometimes there is a couple of exclamation points.
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- sometimes there is a couple of exclamation points. But there is no "the end"
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- of exclamation points. But there is no "the end" until the end.
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- But there is no "the end" until the end. SHEILA: Absolutely!
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- until the end. SHEILA: Absolutely! KATHIE: We write people off
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- SHEILA: Absolutely! KATHIE: We write people off --we write them off,
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- KATHIE: We write people off --we write them off, don't we, Sheila, if they
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- --we write them off, don't we, Sheila, if they don't worship like we do?
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- don't we, Sheila, if they don't worship like we do? If they speak in tongues
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- don't worship like we do? If they speak in tongues and we think that's not
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- If they speak in tongues and we think that's not of the Lord.
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- and we think that's not of the Lord. If they call God
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- of the Lord. If they call God by a different name --
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- If they call God by a different name -- whatever they do.
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- by a different name -- whatever they do. I'm not trying to
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- whatever they do. I'm not trying to dilute down the gospel
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- I'm not trying to dilute down the gospel or the Word of God.
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- dilute down the gospel or the Word of God. I'm trying to dig, dig, dig
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- or the Word of God. I'm trying to dig, dig, dig deeper into what
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- I'm trying to dig, dig, dig deeper into what the Word of God
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- deeper into what the Word of God actually says to us about
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- the Word of God actually says to us about these people that come into
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- actually says to us about these people that come into our life that we love,
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- these people that come into our life that we love, and yet they're different
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- our life that we love, and yet they're different than we are.
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- and yet they're different than we are. They look different.
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- than we are. They look different. They sound different.
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- They look different. They sound different. But I have found that
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- They sound different. But I have found that the greatest trips I've ever
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- But I have found that the greatest trips I've ever taken rabbinically to Israel,
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- the greatest trips I've ever taken rabbinically to Israel, or when I go with people
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- taken rabbinically to Israel, or when I go with people that I say, Lord,
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- or when I go with people that I say, Lord, let's not fill this bus
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- that I say, Lord, let's not fill this bus with people I want to come.
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- let's not fill this bus with people I want to come. Let's fill this bus
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- with people I want to come. Let's fill this bus with people that
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- Let's fill this bus with people that you want because
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- with people that you want because they need you, they need
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- you want because they need you, they need to know you, they need
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- they need you, they need to know you, they need to come to the land of
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- to know you, they need to come to the land of The Rock, the Road,
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- to come to the land of The Rock, the Road, and the Rabbi and meet you
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- The Rock, the Road, and the Rabbi and meet you in a personal way
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- and the Rabbi and meet you in a personal way they never dreamed
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- in a personal way they never dreamed was possible.
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- they never dreamed was possible. So you'll hear stories of
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- was possible. So you'll hear stories of my friend Rocky who was
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- So you'll hear stories of my friend Rocky who was raised in a Hindu home --
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- my friend Rocky who was raised in a Hindu home -- a brilliant, brilliant woman.
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- raised in a Hindu home -- a brilliant, brilliant woman. Her daughter had cancer.
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- a brilliant, brilliant woman. Her daughter had cancer. Her husband came,
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- Her daughter had cancer. Her husband came, and he is a Sikh.
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- Her husband came, and he is a Sikh. Neither one of them
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- and he is a Sikh. Neither one of them you would call
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- Neither one of them you would call followers of Jesus.
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- you would call followers of Jesus. But then you find out
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- followers of Jesus. But then you find out what happened to them
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- But then you find out what happened to them while they were in
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- what happened to them while they were in the Holy Land studying him,
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- while they were in the Holy Land studying him, and then learning about him
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- the Holy Land studying him, and then learning about him and hearing the stories.
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- and then learning about him and hearing the stories. You hear how they changed
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- and hearing the stories. You hear how they changed and how they went home
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- You hear how they changed and how they went home with a different view.
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- and how they went home with a different view. I didn't do anything except
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- with a different view. I didn't do anything except take them there, invite them
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- I didn't do anything except take them there, invite them in the love of Jesus.
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- take them there, invite them in the love of Jesus. And then there are
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- in the love of Jesus. And then there are Scientologists.
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- And then there are Scientologists. One of my biggest, most often
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- Scientologists. One of my biggest, most often collaborator in music
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- One of my biggest, most often collaborator in music is a brilliant composer
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- collaborator in music is a brilliant composer named David Pomeranz, Jewish,
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- is a brilliant composer named David Pomeranz, Jewish, who had been a Scientologist
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- named David Pomeranz, Jewish, who had been a Scientologist for 40 years.
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- who had been a Scientologist for 40 years. He's married to a woman
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- for 40 years. He's married to a woman who used to be Catholic but
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- He's married to a woman who used to be Catholic but who became a Scientologist.
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- who used to be Catholic but who became a Scientologist. They adopted a child
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- who became a Scientologist. They adopted a child and raised him, of course,
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- They adopted a child and raised him, of course, in Scientology.
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- and raised him, of course, in Scientology. So how the Holy Spirit
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- in Scientology. So how the Holy Spirit dealt with the three of them
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- on our trip --
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- on our trip -- let's just put it this way.
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- on our trip -- let's just put it this way. When I was shooting The Way ,
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- let's just put it this way. When I was shooting The Way , this new movie that I have,
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- and I wanted 12 young men
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- and I wanted 12 young men to play the disciples.
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- and I wanted 12 young men to play the disciples. So David and his son,
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- to play the disciples. So David and his son, Nicholas, end up as two
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- So David and his son, Nicholas, end up as two of the disciples in the boat
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- Nicholas, end up as two of the disciples in the boat on the way to the other side.
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- of the disciples in the boat on the way to the other side. So yeah, stories like that.
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- on the way to the other side. So yeah, stories like that. But then there are stories
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- So yeah, stories like that. But then there are stories about people like
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- But then there are stories about people like Jimmie Allen.
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- about people like Jimmie Allen. SHEILA: I love that story!
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- Jimmie Allen. SHEILA: I love that story! KATHIE: Jimmie Allen's story
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- SHEILA: I love that story! KATHIE: Jimmie Allen's story is unbelievable.
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- KATHIE: Jimmie Allen's story is unbelievable. He's just amazing!
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- is unbelievable. He's just amazing! He is the rising star
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- He's just amazing! He is the rising star in country music.
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- He is the rising star in country music. I met him on The Today Show
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- in country music. I met him on The Today Show a couple years ago.
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- I met him on The Today Show a couple years ago. I said, all right,
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- a couple years ago. I said, all right, that guy's going to be
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- I said, all right, that guy's going to be one of my closest friends
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- that guy's going to be one of my closest friends for the rest of my life.
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- one of my closest friends for the rest of my life. And that's what he is.
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- for the rest of my life. And that's what he is. I just adore Jimmie.
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- And that's what he is. I just adore Jimmie. His story is very,
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- I just adore Jimmie. His story is very, very moving.
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- His story is very, very moving. So just people like that.
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- very moving. So just people like that. Again, it wasn't me saying,
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- So just people like that. Again, it wasn't me saying, Lord, I want to get
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- Again, it wasn't me saying, Lord, I want to get my biggest friends, stars...
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- Lord, I want to get my biggest friends, stars... I said, But no, Lord,
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- my biggest friends, stars... I said, But no, Lord, who do you want to tell
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- I said, But no, Lord, who do you want to tell their story?
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- who do you want to tell their story? He gives me names.
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- their story? He gives me names. I pray over it,
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- He gives me names. I pray over it, and then I seek him.
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- I pray over it, and then I seek him. And only one person that
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- and then I seek him. And only one person that he gave for me to ask
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- And only one person that he gave for me to ask couldn't do it;
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- he gave for me to ask couldn't do it; actually, two,
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- couldn't do it; actually, two, I'm thinking now.
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- actually, two, I'm thinking now. One was Regis's wife Joy
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- I'm thinking now. One was Regis's wife Joy because she had just been
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- One was Regis's wife Joy because she had just been asked to do her own book,
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- because she had just been asked to do her own book, and of course, she was going
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- asked to do her own book, and of course, she was going to save the story for that.
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- and of course, she was going to save the story for that. But the other was a new
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- to save the story for that. But the other was a new friend of mine named Alon.
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- But the other was a new friend of mine named Alon. And he is Jewish by birth
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- friend of mine named Alon. And he is Jewish by birth and faith, who had
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- And he is Jewish by birth and faith, who had an encounter recently
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- and faith, who had an encounter recently with Jesus, a few years ago,
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- an encounter recently with Jesus, a few years ago, a literal visitation
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- with Jesus, a few years ago, a literal visitation from him.
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- a literal visitation from him. It's the way I end the book.
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- from him. It's the way I end the book. It is quite amazing because
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- It's the way I end the book. It is quite amazing because he didn't want to write
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- It is quite amazing because he didn't want to write his whole story;
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- he didn't want to write his whole story; he is not ready yet.
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- his whole story; he is not ready yet. That's the work of
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- he is not ready yet. That's the work of the Holy Spirit.
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- That's the work of the Holy Spirit. Why do we think it's our job
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- the Holy Spirit. Why do we think it's our job to tell people
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- Why do we think it's our job to tell people how to live out their faith?
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- to tell people how to live out their faith? If they want our opinions,
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- how to live out their faith? If they want our opinions, let them ask us.
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- If they want our opinions, let them ask us. Otherwise, if we could
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- let them ask us. Otherwise, if we could just love people.
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- Otherwise, if we could just love people. And then when they ask
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- just love people. And then when they ask for our opinion, if we could
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- And then when they ask for our opinion, if we could deliver it with love
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- for our opinion, if we could deliver it with love and gentleness and a tender
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- deliver it with love and gentleness and a tender spirit, like the Bible says
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- and gentleness and a tender spirit, like the Bible says to do, what a world
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- spirit, like the Bible says to do, what a world we'd live in.
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- to do, what a world we'd live in. Was it Saint Francis
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- we'd live in. Was it Saint Francis of Assisi who said, "Preach
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- Was it Saint Francis of Assisi who said, "Preach the gospel at all times
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- of Assisi who said, "Preach the gospel at all times and when necessary
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- the gospel at all times and when necessary use words?"
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- and when necessary use words?" SHEILA: Yeah!
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- One of the conversations
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- One of the conversations you have in the book, in fact,
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- One of the conversations you have in the book, in fact, I think it is the first one,
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- you have in the book, in fact, I think it is the first one, is your conversation
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- I think it is the first one, is your conversation with Kristin Chenowith.
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- is your conversation with Kristin Chenowith. That's just beautiful.
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- So you've been friends
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- So you've been friends for years?
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- So you've been friends for years? KATHIE: You mentioned
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- for years? KATHIE: You mentioned this cross that I wear;
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- KATHIE: You mentioned this cross that I wear; I can't get up closer.
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- this cross that I wear; I can't get up closer. You've seen it before.
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- I can't get up closer. You've seen it before. I never take it off --
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- You've seen it before. I never take it off -- I never take it off.
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- I never take it off -- I never take it off. She was wearing it one day,
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- I never take it off. She was wearing it one day, and I went, "Oh my gosh!
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- She was wearing it one day, and I went, "Oh my gosh! That's the most
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- and I went, "Oh my gosh! That's the most beautiful cross
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- That's the most beautiful cross I've ever seen, Kristin.
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- beautiful cross I've ever seen, Kristin. Where can I get
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- I've ever seen, Kristin. Where can I get one of those?"
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- Where can I get one of those?" She goes, "You can't."
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- one of those?" She goes, "You can't." You know how she is,
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- "You can't."
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- "You can't." [Laughter]
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- "You can't." [Laughter] I said, "Oh!"
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- [Laughter] I said, "Oh!" She said, "I designed it,
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- I said, "Oh!" She said, "I designed it, and it's mine.
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- But I'll give it to you."
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- But I'll give it to you." She starts to take it off
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- But I'll give it to you." She starts to take it off and give it to me on the set.
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- She starts to take it off and give it to me on the set. I go, "No!
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- and give it to me on the set. I go, "No! I'm not going to take it.
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- I go, "No! I'm not going to take it. I'm not going to take it.
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- I'm not going to take it. I'm not going to take it. But I love it.
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- I'm not going to take it. But I love it. You're so dear!"
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- But I love it. You're so dear!" Two days later, maybe,
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- You're so dear!" Two days later, maybe, two of them show up
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- Two days later, maybe, two of them show up in the mail, one for me
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- two of them show up in the mail, one for me and one for my daughter.
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- in the mail, one for me and one for my daughter. And so people don't know
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- and one for my daughter. And so people don't know that Kristin was adopted
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- And so people don't know that Kristin was adopted and raised by two amazing
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- that Kristin was adopted and raised by two amazing parents in Oklahoma.
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- and raised by two amazing parents in Oklahoma. She has this incredible gift
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- parents in Oklahoma. She has this incredible gift God gave her.
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- She has this incredible gift God gave her. She realized she was
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- God gave her. She realized she was a different kind
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- She realized she was a different kind of missionary.
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- a different kind of missionary. She's like I am in the sense
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- of missionary. She's like I am in the sense that God uses us in the
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- She's like I am in the sense that God uses us in the entertainment world;
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- that God uses us in the entertainment world; that's our mission field.
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- entertainment world; that's our mission field. I was judged my whole life
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- that's our mission field. I was judged my whole life for that.
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- I was judged my whole life for that. Some of the worst,
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- for that. Some of the worst, most painful, and damaging
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- Some of the worst, most painful, and damaging comments to me in my life
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- most painful, and damaging comments to me in my life came from Christian people.
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- comments to me in my life came from Christian people. SHEILA: Yeah, I believe it.
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- came from Christian people. SHEILA: Yeah, I believe it. KATHIE: I say "Christian"
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- SHEILA: Yeah, I believe it. KATHIE: I say "Christian" in quotes because real
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- KATHIE: I say "Christian" in quotes because real Christians don't do that.
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- in quotes because real Christians don't do that. They don't do that.
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- Christians don't do that. They don't do that. They'll encourage and pray
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- They don't do that. They'll encourage and pray for you if they really
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- They'll encourage and pray for you if they really care about you.
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- for you if they really care about you. They will pray for you.
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- care about you. They will pray for you. SHEILA: What was the most
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- They will pray for you. SHEILA: What was the most surprising conversation
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- SHEILA: What was the most surprising conversation that you had?
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- surprising conversation that you had? What was the one that
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- that you had? What was the one that perhaps, wow, I didn't
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- What was the one that perhaps, wow, I didn't anticipate this?
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- perhaps, wow, I didn't anticipate this? KATHIE: Cynthia Garrett,
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- anticipate this? KATHIE: Cynthia Garrett, maybe.
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- KATHIE: Cynthia Garrett, maybe. SHEILA: I love her!
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- maybe. SHEILA: I love her! She is a friend of mine.
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- SHEILA: I love her! She is a friend of mine. KATHIE: Yes, Cynthia Garrett.
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- She is a friend of mine. KATHIE: Yes, Cynthia Garrett. I've only just met her.
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- KATHIE: Yes, Cynthia Garrett. I've only just met her. She is new; a lot of people
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- I've only just met her. She is new; a lot of people have moved to my area
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- She is new; a lot of people have moved to my area in Tennessee from California
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- have moved to my area in Tennessee from California to get away from a lot
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- in Tennessee from California to get away from a lot of things, looking for
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- to get away from a lot of things, looking for the Promised Land, which
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- of things, looking for the Promised Land, which used to be California.
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- the Promised Land, which used to be California. So anyway, she is one
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- used to be California. So anyway, she is one of them.
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- So anyway, she is one of them. She and her husband Roger,
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- of them. She and her husband Roger, who also has his testimony
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- She and her husband Roger, who also has his testimony in the book.
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- who also has his testimony in the book. He set out as a young man
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- in the book. He set out as a young man to completely dispel
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- He set out as a young man to completely dispel the Bible,
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- to completely dispel the Bible, to debunk it completely.
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- the Bible, to debunk it completely. So his story is great.
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- to debunk it completely. So his story is great. But Cynthia is this
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- So his story is great. But Cynthia is this beautiful, tall, elegant,
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- But Cynthia is this beautiful, tall, elegant, African American woman
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- beautiful, tall, elegant, African American woman who has had success
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- African American woman who has had success in the television world
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- who has had success in the television world and different things,
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- in the television world and different things, hosting things and stuff.
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- and different things, hosting things and stuff. You'd look at her,
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- hosting things and stuff. You'd look at her, she is very chique,
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- You'd look at her, she is very chique, she's very hip,
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- she is very chique, she's very hip, and she's very cool.
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- she's very hip, and she's very cool. And Lenny Kravitz is like
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- and she's very cool. And Lenny Kravitz is like her spiritual brother;
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- And Lenny Kravitz is like her spiritual brother; they grew up together.
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- her spiritual brother; they grew up together. She is like the coolest girl
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- they grew up together. She is like the coolest girl in the room.
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- She is like the coolest girl in the room. She loves Jesus --
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- in the room. She loves Jesus -- loves Jesus!
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- She loves Jesus -- loves Jesus! And when she told me
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- loves Jesus! And when she told me her story,
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- And when she told me her story, I was blown away by it.
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- her story, I was blown away by it. Blown away!
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- I was blown away by it. Blown away! I think that's the one
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- Blown away! I think that's the one that surprised me the most.
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- SHEILA: Yeah, her story
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- SHEILA: Yeah, her story of being in prison and all --
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- SHEILA: Yeah, her story of being in prison and all -- but it just convinced me
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- of being in prison and all -- but it just convinced me one more time or deepened
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- my understanding
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- my understanding of the powerful work
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- my understanding of the powerful work of the Holy Spirit.
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- of the powerful work of the Holy Spirit. That he seeks us out,
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- of the Holy Spirit. That he seeks us out, and we're never alone.
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- That he seeks us out, and we're never alone. I love that.
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- and we're never alone. I love that. And I love the fact that
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- I love that. And I love the fact that God has given you
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- And I love the fact that God has given you a mission field
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- God has given you a mission field that is different from --
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- a mission field that is different from -- when I was growing up
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- that is different from -- when I was growing up in a small Baptist church
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- when I was growing up in a small Baptist church it was like if you're a guy,
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- in a small Baptist church it was like if you're a guy, you can be a pastor.
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- it was like if you're a guy, you can be a pastor. If you're a woman and
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- you can be a pastor. If you're a woman and you want to serve the Lord,
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- If you're a woman and you want to serve the Lord, you can be a missionary.
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- you want to serve the Lord, you can be a missionary. That was it, not realizing --
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- you can be a missionary. That was it, not realizing -- KATHIE: Or a teacher --
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- That was it, not realizing -- KATHIE: Or a teacher -- Sunday School teacher.
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- KATHIE: Or a teacher -- Sunday School teacher. SHEILA: Or if you play piano,
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- Sunday School teacher. SHEILA: Or if you play piano, you're really in big.
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- SHEILA: Or if you play piano, you're really in big. KATHIE: Well, you could
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- you're really in big. KATHIE: Well, you could do almost anything!
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- KATHIE: Well, you could do almost anything! [Laughter]
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- do almost anything! [Laughter] SHEILA: But understanding
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- [Laughter] SHEILA: But understanding that we're on mission 24/7,
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- SHEILA: But understanding that we're on mission 24/7, no matter where we are,
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- that we're on mission 24/7, no matter where we are, to me is just --
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- no matter where we are, to me is just -- it's a calling.
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- to me is just -- it's a calling. KATHIE: It's life-changing.
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- It gives your life purpose,
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- It gives your life purpose, which so many people
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- It gives your life purpose, which so many people don't feel.
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- which so many people don't feel. I don't have any--
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- don't feel. I don't have any-- I have no purpose.
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- I don't have any-- I have no purpose. I can't do that.
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- I have no purpose. I can't do that. No! You have a mission field.
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- I can't do that. No! You have a mission field. Get on your knees
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- No! You have a mission field. Get on your knees and seek God,
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- Get on your knees and seek God, and he will show you.
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- and seek God, and he will show you. He's looking; he needs
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- and he will show you. He's looking; he needs workers in the field.
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- The harvest is ready,
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- The harvest is ready, but the workers are few.
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- The harvest is ready, but the workers are few. And he's just waiting.
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- but the workers are few. And he's just waiting. You have a special call
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- And he's just waiting. You have a special call on your life that
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- You have a special call on your life that you're waiting on.
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- on your life that you're waiting on. Be proactive about it.
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- you're waiting on. Be proactive about it. Seek the Lord, say, Lord,
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- Be proactive about it. Seek the Lord, say, Lord, I know you want me
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- Seek the Lord, say, Lord, I know you want me to serve you.
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- I know you want me to serve you. I have a zeal in my heart
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- to serve you. I have a zeal in my heart to serve you.
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- I have a zeal in my heart to serve you. Show me where you want.
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- to serve you. Show me where you want. Do you think God is going
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- Show me where you want. Do you think God is going to say no to that prayer?
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- Do you think God is going to say no to that prayer? I don't think so.
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- to say no to that prayer? I don't think so. SHEILA: The friendship
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- I don't think so. SHEILA: The friendship you have with people
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- SHEILA: The friendship you have with people in the natural like
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- you have with people in the natural like Brian Welch of Korn.
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- in the natural like Brian Welch of Korn. I loved your conversation
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- Brian Welch of Korn. I loved your conversation with him!
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- I loved your conversation with him! There was such tenderness
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- with him! There was such tenderness in it and such tenderness
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- There was such tenderness in it and such tenderness in him toward the Lord.
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- in it and such tenderness in him toward the Lord. KATHIE: Oh, he --
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- in him toward the Lord. KATHIE: Oh, he -- people just laugh.
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- KATHIE: Oh, he -- people just laugh. "You're friends with
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- people just laugh. "You're friends with Brian "Head" Welch of Korn?
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- "You're friends with Brian "Head" Welch of Korn? One of the biggest
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- Brian "Head" Welch of Korn? One of the biggest hard metal bands in the world?
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- One of the biggest hard metal bands in the world? How could you be his friend?"
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- hard metal bands in the world? How could you be his friend?" I said, "Have you met him?
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- How could you be his friend?" I said, "Have you met him? How could I not
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- I said, "Have you met him? How could I not be his friend?
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- How could I not be his friend? He loves Jesus."
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- be his friend? He loves Jesus." His testimony, I wasn't
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- He loves Jesus." His testimony, I wasn't surprised by it because
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- His testimony, I wasn't surprised by it because we'd been friends for
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- surprised by it because we'd been friends for long enough that I knew his.
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- we'd been friends for long enough that I knew his. You can go to a documentary
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- long enough that I knew his. You can go to a documentary called Loud Crazy Love
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- You can go to a documentary called Loud Crazy Love that is about him and
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- called Loud Crazy Love that is about him and his struggles to get out
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- that is about him and his struggles to get out of that world,
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- his struggles to get out of that world, and those addictions
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- of that world, and those addictions and that darkness;
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- and those addictions and that darkness; and his journey
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- and that darkness; and his journey with his daughter
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- and his journey with his daughter is a precious part of his --
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- with his daughter is a precious part of his -- it was his daughter
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- is a precious part of his -- it was his daughter he wanted to get clean for.
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- it was his daughter he wanted to get clean for. He had a child in the middle
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- he wanted to get clean for. He had a child in the middle of this insanity of his life.
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- He had a child in the middle of this insanity of his life. And the cleanliness of her
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- of this insanity of his life. And the cleanliness of her and the purity of her,
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- And the cleanliness of her and the purity of her, he just felt...
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- and the purity of her, he just felt... Well, he's tattooed
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- he just felt... Well, he's tattooed every inch of his body,
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- Well, he's tattooed every inch of his body, even his eyelashes.
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- every inch of his body, even his eyelashes. Everything on him
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- even his eyelashes. Everything on him is tattooed.
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- Everything on him is tattooed. And dreadlocks
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- is tattooed. And dreadlocks down past his bum.
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- And dreadlocks down past his bum. [Laughter]
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- down past his bum. [Laughter] But a sweeter soul
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- [Laughter] But a sweeter soul you will never meet.
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- But a sweeter soul you will never meet. A more devoted heart for God
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- you will never meet. A more devoted heart for God you will never find.
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- A more devoted heart for God you will never find. These are the people --
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- you will never find. These are the people -- these are God's children,
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- These are the people -- these are God's children, and we judge for
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- these are God's children, and we judge for all kinds of reasons.
- 00:12:46.655 --> 00:12:48.490
- and we judge for all kinds of reasons. I do it; we all do it.
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- all kinds of reasons. I do it; we all do it. We have biases.
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- I do it; we all do it. We have biases. That doesn't make us
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- We have biases. That doesn't make us systemically racist
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- That doesn't make us systemically racist in my book.
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- systemically racist in my book. It just means we have come
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- in my book. It just means we have come from a different world
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- It just means we have come from a different world and have to find what we have
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- from a different world and have to find what we have in common with one another.
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- and have to find what we have in common with one another. Go into another person's
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- in common with one another. Go into another person's world, be willing to.
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- Go into another person's world, be willing to. Jesus said,
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- world, be willing to. Jesus said, "Go to the other side."
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- Jesus said, "Go to the other side." He was going to their world.
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- "Go to the other side." He was going to their world. But when they got to
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- He was going to their world. But when they got to the other side
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- But when they got to the other side and Jesus got out of the boat
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- the other side and Jesus got out of the boat because there was a guy
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- and Jesus got out of the boat because there was a guy bleeding and cutting himself
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- because there was a guy bleeding and cutting himself and running
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- bleeding and cutting himself and running and demon-possessed.
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- and running and demon-possessed. His name was Legion,
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- and demon-possessed. His name was Legion, and that means so many --
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- His name was Legion, and that means so many -- so many demons.
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- and that means so many -- so many demons. When Jesus healed him
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- so many demons. When Jesus healed him of everything, the demoniac
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- When Jesus healed him of everything, the demoniac wanted to get in the boat
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- of everything, the demoniac wanted to get in the boat and go back with Jesus.
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- wanted to get in the boat and go back with Jesus. You can imagine why he would.
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- and go back with Jesus. You can imagine why he would. And Jesus said, "No, no.
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- You can imagine why he would. And Jesus said, "No, no. Go back to your village.
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- And Jesus said, "No, no. Go back to your village. Go back to your family
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- Go back to your village. Go back to your family and friends and tell them
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- Go back to your family and friends and tell them what your God has done
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- for you this day."
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- for you this day." He was the first missionary,
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- for you this day." He was the first missionary, really.
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- He was the first missionary, really. SHEILA: Absolutely!
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- really. SHEILA: Absolutely! KATHIE: Go back to
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- your world, or go out,
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- your world, or go out, but I love it that
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- your world, or go out, but I love it that this guy's cleaned up.
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- but I love it that this guy's cleaned up. He's sitting there
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- all dressed and clean.
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- all dressed and clean. Can you imagine the shock
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- all dressed and clean. Can you imagine the shock when he went back
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- Can you imagine the shock when he went back to his village?
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- when he went back to his village? Who knows how long
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- to his village? Who knows how long he had been in those caves
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- and terrifying people?
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- and terrifying people? For a long time, probably.
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- and terrifying people? For a long time, probably. They don't even recognize him
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- For a long time, probably. They don't even recognize him until they finally do.
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- They don't even recognize him until they finally do. The scripture says that
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- until they finally do. The scripture says that they believed; the villagers
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- The scripture says that they believed; the villagers were transformed by
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- they believed; the villagers were transformed by the word of his testimony.
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- were transformed by the word of his testimony. SHEILA: One of the things
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- I love, too, is some of
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- I love, too, is some of the stories you tell.
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- I love, too, is some of the stories you tell. It shows that no matter
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- the stories you tell. It shows that no matter your walk of life, God has
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- It shows that no matter your walk of life, God has a plan and a mission.
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- I love your story about
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- I love your story about Hubie Synn,
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- I love your story about Hubie Synn, a reluctant prophet.
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- Hubie Synn, a reluctant prophet. KATHIE: The reluctant prophet,
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- a reluctant prophet. KATHIE: The reluctant prophet, Hubie Synn.
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- KATHIE: The reluctant prophet, Hubie Synn. Yes, I love Hubie!
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- Hubie Synn. Yes, I love Hubie! SHEILA: I remember meeting
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- Yes, I love Hubie! SHEILA: I remember meeting him for the first time
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- SHEILA: I remember meeting him for the first time and thinking, he just
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- him for the first time and thinking, he just looks like an accountant.
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- and thinking, he just looks like an accountant. He doesn't look like --
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- looks like an accountant. He doesn't look like -- KATHIE: He is an accountant!
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- He doesn't look like -- KATHIE: He is an accountant! He is an accountant
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- KATHIE: He is an accountant! He is an accountant from New Jersey!
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- He is an accountant from New Jersey! [Laughter]
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- from New Jersey! [Laughter] But he has a secret life.
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- [Laughter] But he has a secret life. SHEILA: He does, indeed.
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- But he has a secret life. SHEILA: He does, indeed. But dramatic! I love that.
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- SHEILA: He does, indeed. But dramatic! I love that. Because so often we think,
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- But dramatic! I love that. Because so often we think, certain people
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- Because so often we think, certain people are in ministry.
- 00:14:58.454 --> 00:14:59.621
- certain people are in ministry. But no, God wants to use
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- are in ministry. But no, God wants to use every single one of us
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- But no, God wants to use every single one of us to shine his light
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- every single one of us to shine his light and his love.
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- to shine his light and his love. KATHIE: My friend,
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- and his love. KATHIE: My friend, Joanne Moody.
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- KATHIE: My friend, Joanne Moody. Look up Joanne Moody;
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- Joanne Moody. Look up Joanne Moody; this is a woman who for
- 00:15:08.530 --> 00:15:09.865
- Look up Joanne Moody; this is a woman who for almost 15 years had been
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- this is a woman who for almost 15 years had been so damaged in childbirth
- 00:15:11.567 --> 00:15:12.701
- almost 15 years had been so damaged in childbirth that there was irreparable
- 00:15:12.768 --> 00:15:14.069
- so damaged in childbirth that there was irreparable nerve damage.
- 00:15:14.136 --> 00:15:15.237
- that there was irreparable nerve damage. She lived with I think
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- nerve damage. She lived with I think she was on eight opioids daily
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- She lived with I think she was on eight opioids daily for 14 and a half years
- 00:15:19.742 --> 00:15:21.010
- she was on eight opioids daily for 14 and a half years and still could get
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- for 14 and a half years and still could get no relief from her pain.
- 00:15:22.244 --> 00:15:23.579
- and still could get no relief from her pain. She was miraculously healed.
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- no relief from her pain. She was miraculously healed. Miraculously --
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- She was miraculously healed. Miraculously -- like gone!
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- Miraculously -- like gone! She said, "Lord, I will
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- like gone! She said, "Lord, I will travel wherever you send me
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- She said, "Lord, I will travel wherever you send me and heal others
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- travel wherever you send me and heal others in your name."
- 00:15:36.325 --> 00:15:37.459
- and heal others in your name." And the ministry she has now
- 00:15:37.526 --> 00:15:40.429
- in your name." And the ministry she has now is unbelievable --
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- And the ministry she has now is unbelievable -- Joanne Moody.
- 00:15:42.364 --> 00:15:44.366
- is unbelievable -- Joanne Moody. I wanted to introduce
- 00:15:44.433 --> 00:15:45.901
- Joanne Moody. I wanted to introduce Hubie and Joanne for a reason.
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- I wanted to introduce Hubie and Joanne for a reason. There is so much
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- Hubie and Joanne for a reason. There is so much misunderstanding of
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- There is so much misunderstanding of the gifts of the Spirit
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- misunderstanding of the gifts of the Spirit in the western world.
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- the gifts of the Spirit in the western world. There is so much mystery
- 00:16:01.150 --> 00:16:03.118
- in the western world. There is so much mystery surrounding it, and there
- 00:16:03.185 --> 00:16:04.319
- There is so much mystery surrounding it, and there shouldn't be because
- 00:16:04.386 --> 00:16:06.321
- surrounding it, and there shouldn't be because once you understand
- 00:16:06.388 --> 00:16:07.956
- shouldn't be because once you understand the people, meet the people
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- once you understand the people, meet the people that have these gifts,
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- the people, meet the people that have these gifts, and you see the way
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- that have these gifts, and you see the way they use them for the kingdom
- 00:16:12.027 --> 00:16:13.162
- and you see the way they use them for the kingdom of God, any bias you have
- 00:16:13.228 --> 00:16:15.397
- they use them for the kingdom of God, any bias you have about it is dispelled.
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- of God, any bias you have about it is dispelled. Because you see
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- about it is dispelled. Because you see what's being done in
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- Because you see what's being done in the name of the Lord Jesus.
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- what's being done in the name of the Lord Jesus. And you cannot say
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- the name of the Lord Jesus. And you cannot say this is not God.
- 00:16:22.438 --> 00:16:24.840
- And you cannot say this is not God. This is redemption.
- 00:16:24.907 --> 00:16:26.175
- this is not God. This is redemption. This is healing.
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- This is redemption. This is healing. And nobody is getting
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- This is healing. And nobody is getting the credit for it
- 00:16:29.445 --> 00:16:30.546
- And nobody is getting the credit for it but Almighty God.
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- the credit for it but Almighty God. We have to test the spirits
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- but Almighty God. We have to test the spirits for sure, but I think
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- We have to test the spirits for sure, but I think for way too long,
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- for sure, but I think for way too long, we as westerners have been
- 00:16:37.152 --> 00:16:38.454
- for way too long, we as westerners have been too terrified of the gifts
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- we as westerners have been too terrified of the gifts of the Spirit.
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- too terrified of the gifts of the Spirit. Actually, when you read
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- of the Spirit. Actually, when you read about them, when Paul
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- Actually, when you read about them, when Paul talks about them,
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- about them, when Paul talks about them, we're all supposed to have
- 00:16:45.394 --> 00:16:46.428
- talks about them, we're all supposed to have gifts of the Spirit.
- 00:16:46.495 --> 00:16:47.663
- we're all supposed to have gifts of the Spirit. They're supposed to
- 00:16:47.729 --> 00:16:48.797
- gifts of the Spirit. They're supposed to be different; used like
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- They're supposed to be different; used like different parts of the body
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- be different; used like different parts of the body for one good work.
- 00:16:51.233 --> 00:16:52.468
- different parts of the body for one good work. But we're all supposed
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- for one good work. But we're all supposed to use them.
- 00:16:53.635 --> 00:16:54.703
- But we're all supposed to use them. And people go, "God doesn't
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- to use them. And people go, "God doesn't do that anymore."
- 00:16:55.938 --> 00:16:57.106
- And people go, "God doesn't do that anymore." Really? Jesus said,
- 00:16:57.172 --> 00:16:58.373
- do that anymore." Really? Jesus said, "Greater things than this
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- Really? Jesus said, "Greater things than this you will do in my name
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- "Greater things than this you will do in my name when the Holy Spirit comes.
- 00:17:01.510 --> 00:17:03.011
- you will do in my name when the Holy Spirit comes. But I have to go
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- when the Holy Spirit comes. But I have to go so you can do them."
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- But I have to go so you can do them." He didn't put
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- so you can do them." He didn't put a timeframe on that.
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- He didn't put a timeframe on that. We do.
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- We're the ones that box
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- We're the ones that box God in, that relegate him
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- We're the ones that box God in, that relegate him to three dimensions,
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- God in, that relegate him to three dimensions, that stick him on a shelf
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- to three dimensions, that stick him on a shelf and say, "Well, that's
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- what God does."
- 00:17:16.024 --> 00:17:17.092
- what God does." Really?
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- what God does." Really? Go to Mozambique and watch
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- Really? Go to Mozambique and watch Heidi Baker raise people
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- Go to Mozambique and watch Heidi Baker raise people from the dead
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- Heidi Baker raise people from the dead in the name of Jesus.
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- from the dead in the name of Jesus. Let's open our eyes,
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- in the name of Jesus. Let's open our eyes, our ears, our hearts,
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- Let's open our eyes, our ears, our hearts, and our souls to the great
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- our ears, our hearts, and our souls to the great works the Holy Spirit
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- and our souls to the great works the Holy Spirit is doing in the lives
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- works the Holy Spirit is doing in the lives of brothers and sisters
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- is doing in the lives of brothers and sisters all over the world.
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- of brothers and sisters all over the world. We don't see much of it here
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- all over the world. We don't see much of it here in our country because
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- We don't see much of it here in our country because we don't have the faith.
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- in our country because we don't have the faith. Jesus said, "Your faith
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- we don't have the faith. Jesus said, "Your faith has healed you."
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- Jesus said, "Your faith has healed you." I'm not saying everybody
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- has healed you." I'm not saying everybody that doesn't get healed
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- I'm not saying everybody that doesn't get healed doesn't have the faith
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- that doesn't get healed doesn't have the faith for it, but faith is
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- doesn't have the faith for it, but faith is a component of it --
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- for it, but faith is a component of it -- a huge component.
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- a component of it -- a huge component. Anyway, I wanted people
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- a huge component. Anyway, I wanted people to get to know people
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- Anyway, I wanted people to get to know people like that in this book
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- to get to know people like that in this book and not be afraid of them.
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- SHEILA: Yeah! Beautiful!
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- SHEILA: Yeah! Beautiful! When people finish this book,
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- SHEILA: Yeah! Beautiful! When people finish this book, Kathie Lee, when they close
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- When people finish this book, Kathie Lee, when they close this, what is your prayer for
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- each person that reads this?
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- each person that reads this? KATHIE: I talk about that
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- each person that reads this? KATHIE: I talk about that a little bit in the book
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- KATHIE: I talk about that a little bit in the book at the very end.
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- a little bit in the book at the very end. That people will welcome
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- at the very end. That people will welcome people like that into
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- That people will welcome people like that into their lives and into their
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- people like that into their lives and into their hearts and into their worlds.
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- their lives and into their hearts and into their worlds. People that look
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- hearts and into their worlds. People that look different than you.
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- People that look different than you. People that go to a different
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- different than you. People that go to a different church or no church at all.
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- People that go to a different church or no church at all. People that worship
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- church or no church at all. People that worship differently.
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- People that worship differently. People who sometimes call God
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- differently. People who sometimes call God by a different name,
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- People who sometimes call God by a different name, and we call that blasphemy;
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- by a different name, and we call that blasphemy; get to know them and see
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- and we call that blasphemy; get to know them and see what they say about that god.
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- get to know them and see what they say about that god. Then, you'll have something
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- what they say about that god. Then, you'll have something to talk to them about in love
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- Then, you'll have something to talk to them about in love and with tenderness
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- to talk to them about in love and with tenderness and kindness.
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- and with tenderness and kindness. People, in my experience,
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- and kindness. People, in my experience, have never come to know
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- People, in my experience, have never come to know Christ in a powerful,
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- have never come to know Christ in a powerful, personal way because
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- Christ in a powerful, personal way because I've told them
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- personal way because I've told them they're going to go to hell.
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- I've told them they're going to go to hell. SHEILA: No!
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- they're going to go to hell. SHEILA: No! KATHIE: No! I tell them
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- SHEILA: No! KATHIE: No! I tell them that God loves them
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- KATHIE: No! I tell them that God loves them just as they are.
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- that God loves them just as they are. And if they will come to him
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- just as they are. And if they will come to him and seek him,
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- And if they will come to him and seek him, he will be found by them.
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- and seek him, he will be found by them. He lives to be found by them.
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- he will be found by them. He lives to be found by them. And he wants to love you
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- He lives to be found by them. And he wants to love you and transform your life
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- And he wants to love you and transform your life into everything
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- and transform your life into everything he ever created you to be.
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- into everything he ever created you to be. We're supposed to love
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- he ever created you to be. We're supposed to love people into the kingdom
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- We're supposed to love people into the kingdom of heaven, not condemn them.
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- people into the kingdom of heaven, not condemn them. SHEILA: Absolutely!
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- of heaven, not condemn them. SHEILA: Absolutely! So as you can probably see,
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- SHEILA: Absolutely! So as you can probably see, you're going to want to get
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- So as you can probably see, you're going to want to get a hold of this book
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- you're going to want to get a hold of this book for yourself, and I'm going
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- a hold of this book for yourself, and I'm going to tell you how
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- for yourself, and I'm going to tell you how you can do that.
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- to tell you how you can do that. But first of all, I would
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- bring some hope to some women
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- bring some hope to some women at the moment who are praying
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- at the moment who are praying that someone is listening
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- that someone is listening to their prayer.
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- to their prayer. You can't hear
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- You can't hear that Jesus loves you
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- that Jesus loves you when you're starving to death.
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- when you're starving to death. That was one of the things
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- That was one of the things that was so clear to me
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- that was so clear to me on my first trip
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- on my first trip to Southern Africa.
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- to Southern Africa. As much as you want
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- As much as you want to share the life
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- to share the life and the light and the hope
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- and the light and the hope in Jesus,
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- in Jesus, there was such an emergency
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- there was such an emergency that was just
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- that was just right there in front of you.
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- right there in front of you. These mothers had walked
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- These mothers had walked for so many miles
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- for so many miles to bring their children
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- to bring their children to the malnutrition clinic.
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- to the malnutrition clinic. And so often,
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- And so often, by the time they get there,
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- by the time they get there, it's too late.
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- it's too late. Mothers and fathers
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- Mothers and fathers are doing everything they can
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- are doing everything they can to keep their children alive.
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- to keep their children alive. Scraping through the dirt,
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- Scraping through the dirt, I watched one woman,
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- I watched one woman, she was scraping
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- she was scraping through the dirt for pods
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- through the dirt for pods for anything at all
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- for anything at all that she could put
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- that she could put into her children's stomachs
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- into her children's stomachs so it would stop the pain
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- so it would stop the pain and the growling,
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- and the growling, but there was no nutrition.
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- but there was no nutrition. It was heartbreaking.
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- It was heartbreaking. That's why I love --
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- That's why I love -- I love what we do
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- I love what we do through Mission Feeding.
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- through Mission Feeding. I like to call these
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- I like to call these "a bowl of hope"
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- "a bowl of hope" because that is what it is.
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- because that is what it is. We have factories
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- We have factories on the ground
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- on the ground that are able to produce
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- that are able to produce exactly what
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- exactly what these children need,
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- these children need, the proper nutrients
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- the proper nutrients and protein
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- and protein that will give them strength
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- that will give them strength to be able to grow up,
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- to be able to grow up, to have hope, and a future.
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- to have hope, and a future. And the other thing
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- And the other thing that I think is marvelous
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- that I think is marvelous is to get a bowl --
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- is to get a bowl -- you saw me there
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- you saw me there in that food line.
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- in that food line. The children come to school
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- The children come to school to get their bowl of food,
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- to get their bowl of food, and they get an education.
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- and they get an education. And they have hope.
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- And they have hope. Would you go online or call
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- Would you go online or call that number on your screen?
- 00:20:53.675 --> 00:20:55.143
- that number on your screen? $30 feeds three children.
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- $30 feeds three children. If you can give $100,
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- If you can give $100, that feeds ten children.
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- that feeds ten children. $1.000 will feed 100 children
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- $1.000 will feed 100 children for three months.
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- for three months. Please, please call now.
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- Please, please call now. Give the very best gift
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- Give the very best gift you can.
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- you can. Thank you.
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- Across the continent of Africa,
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- children are suffering,
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- facing severe malnutrition and even death.
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- With food reserves gone
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- and many areas experiencing severe famine,
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- we urgently need to replenish supplies
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- to keep feeding the 350.000 children
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- who are counting on us.
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- Through LIFE's Mission Feeding outreach
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- your gift of love can be an answer to prayer
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- for a hurting and hungry child
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- in their time of need.
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- Call now with your life-saving gift
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- of $30, $50, or $100
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- to help feed and care for three, five, or ten children
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- for three full months.
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- With your gift of any amount,
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- we'll send you The Chosen: 40 days with Jesus.
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- From the creators of the widely popular
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- television drama, The Chosen,
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- this devotional invites you to discover Jesus
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- through the eyes of those who knew him best.
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- With your gift of $100 or more,
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- please request the "Amazing Grace" sheet music framed wall art.
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- This timeless and well-beloved hymn
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- can be displayed as a reminder
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- of God's grace to you.
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- Finally, with your gift of $1.000 or more
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- to help feed and care for 100 children,
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- be sure to request our inspiring bronze sculpture,
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- "Let the Children Come."
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- This beautiful bronze is a reminder
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- to care for children around the world
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- in both word and deed.
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- This is the last week!
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- Please call, write, or make your gift online.
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- SHEILA: Thank you so much
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- SHEILA: Thank you so much for responding.
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- SHEILA: Thank you so much for responding. Let's just, this is
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- for responding. Let's just, this is a privilege to serve
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- Let's just, this is a privilege to serve other people in Jesus' name.
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- a privilege to serve other people in Jesus' name. Remember, for any gift at all,
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- other people in Jesus' name. Remember, for any gift at all, ask us, and we will send you
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- Remember, for any gift at all, ask us, and we will send you Kathie Lee's book.
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- ask us, and we will send you Kathie Lee's book. It's called The Jesus I Know .
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- Kathie Lee's book. It's called The Jesus I Know . And I think we get to know
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- It's called The Jesus I Know . And I think we get to know Jesus a little better
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- And I think we get to know Jesus a little better every time we talk to you,
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- Jesus a little better every time we talk to you, Kathie Lee.
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- every time we talk to you, Kathie Lee. Thank you for being with us.
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- Kathie Lee. Thank you for being with us. KATHIE: I love you, Sheila.
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- Thank you for being with us. KATHIE: I love you, Sheila. Truly, you are one of
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- KATHIE: I love you, Sheila. Truly, you are one of my favorite people
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- Truly, you are one of my favorite people on this planet.
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- my favorite people on this planet. You're my sister!
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- on this planet. You're my sister! SHEILA: Yeah! I love you, too.
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- You're my sister! SHEILA: Yeah! I love you, too. Bless you, my friend.
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- SHEILA: Yeah! I love you, too. Bless you, my friend. And we'll see you all
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- Bless you, my friend. And we'll see you all next time on LIFE Today .
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- And we'll see you all next time on LIFE Today . God bless you.
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- ♪
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- ♪
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- ♪ Every secret, every shame ♪
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- ♪ Every fear, every pain ♪
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- ♪ Live inside the dark but that's not who we are ♪
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- ♪ We are children of the day ♪
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- ♪ So wake up sleeper, lift your head ♪
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- ♪ We were meant for more than this ♪
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- ♪ Fight the shadows conquer death ♪
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- ♪ Make the most of the time we have left ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We are the city on a hill ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We gotta, we gotta ♪
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- ♪ We gotta let the light shine ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We are the city on a hill ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We gotta, we gotta ♪
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- ♪ We gotta let the light shine ♪
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- ♪ Let the light shine ♪
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- ♪ We are called to spread the news ♪
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- ♪ To tell the world the simple truth ♪
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- ♪ That Jesus came to save ♪
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- ♪ There's freedom in his name ♪
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- ♪ So let his love break through ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We are the city on a hill ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We gotta, we gotta ♪
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- ♪ We gotta let the light shine ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We are the city on a hill ♪
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- ♪ We are the light of the world ♪
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- ♪ We gotta, we gotta ♪
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- ♪ We gotta let the light shine ♪
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- ♪ We are the light we are the light ♪
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- ♪ We are the light ♪
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- ♪ So let your light shine brighter ♪
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- ♪ We are the light, we are the light ♪
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- ♪ We are the light ♪
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- ♪ Jesus, you are the light ♪
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- ♪ You are the light you are the light ♪
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- ♪ We will lift you higher ♪
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