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The Eric Metaxas Radio Show | Guests Andy Erwin and Brian Kilmeade | December 17, 2021
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- [MUSIC] - ERIC METAXAS: THIS
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- - ERIC METAXAS: THIS PROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN
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- PROGRAM IS SPONSORED IN PART BY CARSHIELD, GIVING
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- PART BY CARSHIELD, GIVING THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE
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- THOUSANDS OF VEHICLE OWNERS PEACE OF MIND.
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- OWNERS PEACE OF MIND. [MUSIC]
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- [MUSIC] - MALE: HEY.
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- [MUSIC] ♪ THE ERIC METAXAS RADIO SHOW ♪
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- - ERIC: HEY, FOLKS, GUESS
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- - ERIC: HEY, FOLKS, GUESS WHAT?
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- WHAT? YOU HEARD OF THE ERWIN BROTHERS?
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- YOU HEARD OF THE ERWIN BROTHERS? SO HAVE I.
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- SO HAVE I. WE CAN ONLY GET ONE OF THEM
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- WE CAN ONLY GET ONE OF THEM TODAY.
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- TODAY. IT'S ANDY.
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- ANDY, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER
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- ANDY, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER FILM OUT.
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- FILM OUT. THIS IS PARTICULARLY
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- THIS IS PARTICULARLY EXCITING.
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- EXCITING. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO
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- I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START EXCEPT TO SAY,
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- START EXCEPT TO SAY, WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM.
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- WELCOME TO THE PROGRAM. - ANDY ERWIN: ERIC, IT'S
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- - ANDY ERWIN: ERIC, IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, MAN,
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- GOOD TO BE WITH YOU, MAN, AND I TRIED TO GET MY
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- AND I TRIED TO GET MY DELINQUENT BROTHER TO COME
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- DELINQUENT BROTHER TO COME ALONG, BUT HE DOESN'T
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- ALONG, BUT HE DOESN'T LISTEN TO ME ANYMORE SO--
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- LISTEN TO ME ANYMORE SO-- - ERIC: I KNOW.
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- - ERIC: I KNOW. YOU KNOW WHAT?
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- YOU KNOW WHAT? HE'S DEAD TO ALL OF US.
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- HE'S DEAD TO ALL OF US. ALBIN, HE'S ON THAT LIST NOW.
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- ALBIN, HE'S ON THAT LIST NOW. NO MORE.
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- NO MORE. ENOUGH.
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- ENOUGH. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
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- ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. YOU GUYS ARE FAMOUS FOR
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- YOU GUYS ARE FAMOUS FOR HAVING DONE
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- HAVING DONE MANY, MANY FILMS, BUT
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- MANY, MANY FILMS, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT
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- THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THIS NEW FILM THAT I FOUND
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- THIS NEW FILM THAT I FOUND PARTICULARLY EXCITING, AND
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- PARTICULARLY EXCITING, AND USUALLY WHAT I WOULD DO IS
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- USUALLY WHAT I WOULD DO IS JUST SUM IT UP AND NOT
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- JUST SUM IT UP AND NOT GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO
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- GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK, BUT I'M TRYING TO
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- TALK, BUT I'M TRYING TO CHANGE.
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- CHANGE. SO TELL MY AUDIENCE WHAT
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- SO TELL MY AUDIENCE WHAT IS THIS FILM.
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- IS THIS FILM. REALLY, THIS IS SO EXCITING.
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- REALLY, THIS IS SO EXCITING. I'M JUST TEMPTED TO,
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- I'M JUST TEMPTED TO, YOU KNOW-- TELL MY AUDIENCE
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- YOU KNOW-- TELL MY AUDIENCE ABOUT THIS FILM AND WHEN
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- ABOUT THIS FILM AND WHEN IT, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN IT
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- IT, FIRST OF ALL, WHEN IT OPENS.
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- OPENS. - ANDY: YEAH, MAN,
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- I CAN LISTEN TO YOU TALK
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- I CAN LISTEN TO YOU TALK ALL DAY LONG, ERIC, SO YOU
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- ALL DAY LONG, ERIC, SO YOU CAN WAX ELOQUENT ANY TIME.
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- - ERIC: YOU'RE VERY NICE.
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- - ERIC: YOU'RE VERY NICE. THANK YOU.
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- THANK YOU. - ANDY: I'M GOOD.
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- - ANDY: I'M GOOD. BUT, YEAH, "AMERICAN UNDERDOG,"
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- BUT, YEAH, "AMERICAN UNDERDOG," IT'S "THE KURT WARNER STORY,"
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- IT'S "THE KURT WARNER STORY," AND, YOU KNOW,
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- AND, YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER AND I, WE
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- MY BROTHER AND I, WE STARTED OUT AS SPORTS
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- STARTED OUT AS SPORTS CAMERAMEN BACK IN THE DAY,
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- CAMERAMEN BACK IN THE DAY, AND SO I REMEMBER BEING ON
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- AND SO I REMEMBER BEING ON THE SIDELINES IN THE
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- THE SIDELINES IN THE SUPER BOWL IN 2002, WATCHING
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- SUPER BOWL IN 2002, WATCHING KURT WARNER ON THE FIELD,
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- KURT WARNER ON THE FIELD, AND THERE WAS JUST
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- AND THERE WAS JUST SOMETHIN' SO AMAZING ABOUT
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- SOMETHIN' SO AMAZING ABOUT HIS STORY, YOU KNOW, THIS
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- HIS STORY, YOU KNOW, THIS GUY THAT WENT FROM WORKING
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- GUY THAT WENT FROM WORKING IN A SUPERMARKET, TRYING
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- IN A SUPERMARKET, TRYING TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY, OUT
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- TO SUPPORT HIS FAMILY, OUT OF FOOTBALL FOR FIVE YEARS
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- OF FOOTBALL FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN FINALLY GOT HIS
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- AND THEN FINALLY GOT HIS CHANCE TO PLAY FOR THE
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- CHANCE TO PLAY FOR THE RAMS AND MADE IT ALL THE
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- RAMS AND MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE SUPER BOWL AND
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- WAY TO THE SUPER BOWL AND ENDED UP BEING THE MVP OF
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- ENDED UP BEING THE MVP OF THE NFL IN THE YEAR HE WAS
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- THE NFL IN THE YEAR HE WAS THE LOWEST-PAID ATHLETE IN
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- THE LOWEST-PAID ATHLETE IN THE NFL, AND SO IT'S JUST,
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- THE NFL, AND SO IT'S JUST, I MEAN, IT IS THE UNDERDOG
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- I MEAN, IT IS THE UNDERDOG STORY OF ALL UNDERDOG
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- STORY OF ALL UNDERDOG STORIES.
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- STORIES. AMAZING STORY ABOUT
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- AMAZING STORY ABOUT FAMILY, AND IT OPENS ON
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- FAMILY, AND IT OPENS ON CHRISTMAS DAY.
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- CHRISTMAS DAY. - ERIC: AND IT OPENS ON
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- - ERIC: AND IT OPENS ON CHRISTMAS DAY.
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- CHRISTMAS DAY. AGAIN, THE TITLE IS
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- AGAIN, THE TITLE IS "AMERICAN UNDERDOG."
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- "AMERICAN UNDERDOG." YOU'VE GOT SOME HUGE NAMES
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- YOU'VE GOT SOME HUGE NAMES IN HERE.
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- IN HERE. I MEAN, I ALMOST DID A
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- I MEAN, I ALMOST DID A DOUBLE TAKE.
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- DOUBLE TAKE. BUT ZACHARY LEVI, HE'S THE
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- BUT ZACHARY LEVI, HE'S THE YOUNG STAR OF THIS.
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- YOUNG STAR OF THIS. - ANDY: YOU KNOW, FOR
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- - ANDY: YOU KNOW, FOR ZACHARY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE,
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- ZACHARY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, HAD A HUGE BREAKOUT
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- HAD A HUGE BREAKOUT HIT WITH "SHAZAM!"
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- HIT WITH "SHAZAM!" AND HE'S IN THAT SUPERHERO
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- AND HE'S IN THAT SUPERHERO MOVIE FRANCHISE AND IS THE
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- MOVIE FRANCHISE AND IS THE STAR OF THAT, AND THEY
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- STAR OF THAT, AND THEY JUST FINISHED "SHAZAM 2,"
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- JUST FINISHED "SHAZAM 2," BUT HE AND I KNEW EACH
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- BUT HE AND I KNEW EACH OTHER FROM 10, 12 YEARS AGO.
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- OTHER FROM 10, 12 YEARS AGO. I USED TO GO TO A BIBLE
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- I USED TO GO TO A BIBLE STUDY AT HIS HOUSE OUT IN
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- STUDY AT HIS HOUSE OUT IN L.A., AND HE WAS ON A TV
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- L.A., AND HE WAS ON A TV SHOW CALLED "CHUCK" THAT
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- SHOW CALLED "CHUCK" THAT WAS REALLY POPULAR BACK IN
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- WAS REALLY POPULAR BACK IN THE DAY, SO WE KIND OF
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- THE DAY, SO WE KIND OF KNEW EACH OTHER IN THAT
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- KNEW EACH OTHER IN THAT VENUE, BUT WHEN "SHAZAM!"
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- VENUE, BUT WHEN "SHAZAM!" WAS COMING OUT, I SAW IT
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- WAS COMING OUT, I SAW IT WAS GONNA BE A BIG BREAK
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- WAS GONNA BE A BIG BREAK FOR HIM IN A WHOLE NEW WAY,
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- FOR HIM IN A WHOLE NEW WAY, AND THEN, FOR ME, YOU
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- AND THEN, FOR ME, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE SAME YEAR
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- KNOW, IT WAS THE SAME YEAR THAT WE WERE RELEASED,
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- THAT WE WERE RELEASED, "I CAN ONLY IMAGINE,"
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- "I CAN ONLY IMAGINE," WHICH WAS OUR BREAKOUT HIT,
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- WHICH WAS OUR BREAKOUT HIT, AND SO WE STARTED TALKIN' BACK
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- AND SO WE STARTED TALKIN' BACK AND FORTH, AND SO, WHEN WE
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- AND FORTH, AND SO, WHEN WE GOT TO THIS MOVIE,
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- GOT TO THIS MOVIE, WE TRIED REALLY HARD TO LOOK
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- WE TRIED REALLY HARD TO LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES,
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- FOR OPPORTUNITIES, LIKE YOU SAID, TO KIND OF
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- LIKE YOU SAID, TO KIND OF CONNECT WITH PEOPLE
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- CONNECT WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH WALLS
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- OUTSIDE THE CHURCH WALLS TO REALLY HAVE SOMETHING
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- TO REALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S UNIVERSALLY
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- THAT'S UNIVERSALLY RELATABLE THAT PEOPLE CAN
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- RELATABLE THAT PEOPLE CAN KIND OF ENTER THE STORY
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- KIND OF ENTER THE STORY WITH BUT THEN AN
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- WITH BUT THEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO,
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- KIND OF, PLANT THAT SEED
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- KIND OF, PLANT THAT SEED OF CHRISTIANITY IN
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- OF CHRISTIANITY IN STARTIN' IN THAT
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- STARTIN' IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE
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- CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH, AND WE
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- OUTSIDE THE CHURCH, AND WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, AN
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- THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, AN UNDERDOG STORY,
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- A SPORTS STORY LIKE KURT
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- A SPORTS STORY LIKE KURT WARNER, A HALL OF FAME
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- WARNER, A HALL OF FAME QUARTERBACK, GAVE THAT
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- QUARTERBACK, GAVE THAT AVENUE.
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- AVENUE. SO WHEN I WAS TALKING ONE
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- SO WHEN I WAS TALKING ONE DAY WITH ZACH LEVI ON A
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- DAY WITH ZACH LEVI ON A FACETIME CALL WITH EACH
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- FACETIME CALL WITH EACH OTHER, AND HE SAID,
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- OTHER, AND HE SAID, "WHAT'S THIS KURT WARNER
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- "WHAT'S THIS KURT WARNER MOVIE I KEEP HEARIN' MY
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- MOVIE I KEEP HEARIN' MY NAME PITCH AROUND ON IT?
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- NAME PITCH AROUND ON IT? EVERYBODY SAYS I LOOK LIKE
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- EVERYBODY SAYS I LOOK LIKE HIM."
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- HIM." AND I SAID, "WELL, ZACH,
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- AND I SAID, "WELL, ZACH, I WASN'T GONNA PITCH
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- I WASN'T GONNA PITCH YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE
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- YOU BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE BOOKED FOR THE NEXT THREE
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- BOOKED FOR THE NEXT THREE YEARS," AND HE SAID,
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- YEARS," AND HE SAID, "WELL, COVID MAY HAVE
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- "WELL, COVID MAY HAVE REARRANGED SOME THINGS.
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- REARRANGED SOME THINGS. LET ME READ THE SCRIPT."
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- LET ME READ THE SCRIPT." AND I SENT HIM THE SCRIPT,
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- AND I SENT HIM THE SCRIPT, AND HE TEXTED ME BACK AT
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- AND HE TEXTED ME BACK AT MIDNIGHT, SAID,
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- MIDNIGHT, SAID, "LET'S MAKE A FOOTBALL MOVIE."
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- "LET'S MAKE A FOOTBALL MOVIE." - ERIC: WOW.
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- - ERIC: WOW. - ANDY: AND THE WHOLE
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- - ANDY: AND THE WHOLE MOVIE JUST TOOK ANOTHER
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- MOVIE JUST TOOK ANOTHER TRAJECTORY AT THAT POINT.
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- TRAJECTORY AT THAT POINT. - ERIC: I WAS GONNA SAY
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- - ERIC: I WAS GONNA SAY THAT'S A HUGE DEAL.
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- THAT'S A HUGE DEAL. I'M A LITTLE TOO OLD TO BE
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- I'M A LITTLE TOO OLD TO BE REALLY CONVERSANT IN THE
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- REALLY CONVERSANT IN THE WHOLE SUPERHERO GENRE.
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- WHOLE SUPERHERO GENRE. I TEND TO SNEER.
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- I TEND TO SNEER. DON'T GO BY ME.
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- DON'T GO BY ME. THAT'S JUST ME, BUT I KNOW
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- THAT'S JUST ME, BUT I KNOW THAT, WHEN YOU MENTIONED
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- THAT, WHEN YOU MENTIONED "SHAZAM!"
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- "SHAZAM!" THESE ARE HUGE FILMS.
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- THESE ARE HUGE FILMS. SO THE IDEA THAT THIS GUY
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- SO THE IDEA THAT THIS GUY IS A BELIEVER AND IS THE
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- IS A BELIEVER AND IS THE STAR OF THIS THING, THIS
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- STAR OF THIS THING, THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE DEAL.
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- IS A HUGE, HUGE DEAL. YOU ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, HAVE
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- YOU ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, HAVE DENNIS QUAID IN THE FILM.
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- DENNIS QUAID IN THE FILM. NOW, HE WAS IN
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- NOW, HE WAS IN "I CAN ONLY IMAGINE."
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- "I CAN ONLY IMAGINE." I THINK THAT'S WHEN
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- I THINK THAT'S WHEN I MET HIM WAS WHEN
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- I MET HIM WAS WHEN YOU WERE LAUNCHING THAT FILM.
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- YOU WERE LAUNCHING THAT FILM. - ANDY: YEAH, IN OUR B
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- - ANDY: YEAH, IN OUR B INTERVIEW.
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- INTERVIEW. GREAT.
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- GREAT. - ERIC: HE'S A HUGE DEAL,
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- - ERIC: HE'S A HUGE DEAL, AND SO I'M THRILLED THAT
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- AND SO I'M THRILLED THAT HE'S IN THIS.
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- HE'S IN THIS. BUT ANNA PAQUIN, I MEAN,
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- BUT ANNA PAQUIN, I MEAN, FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW,
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- FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD, YOU KNOW, I THINK OF HER AS BEING IN
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- I THINK OF HER AS BEING IN "THE PIANO."
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- "THE PIANO." I MEAN, HOW MANY YEARS AGO
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- I MEAN, HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS THAT?
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- WAS THAT? - ANDY: I MEAN, I WOULD SAY,
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- - ANDY: I MEAN, I WOULD SAY, I MEAN, SHE WAS NINE
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- I MEAN, SHE WAS NINE YEARS OLD, SO THAT HAD TO
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- YEARS OLD, SO THAT HAD TO HAVE BEEN 30 YEARS AGO,
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- HAVE BEEN 30 YEARS AGO, SO, YEAH, IT WAS AMAZING--
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- SO, YEAH, IT WAS AMAZING-- - ERIC: DID YOU SAY, 30?
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- - ERIC: DID YOU SAY, 30? - ANDY: YEAH.
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- - ANDY: YEAH. - ERIC: THAT'S NOT REALLY
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- - ERIC: THAT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE.
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- POSSIBLE. THAT CAN'T BE POSSIBLE.
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- THAT CAN'T BE POSSIBLE. - ANDY: YEAH, YEAH.
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- - ANDY: YEAH, YEAH. - ERIC: NOW, HOW ARE YOU
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- - ERIC: NOW, HOW ARE YOU CREDITED?
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- CREDITED? YOU GUYS ARE JUST
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- YOU GUYS ARE JUST PRODUCERS ON THE FILM?
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- PRODUCERS ON THE FILM? HOW DO YOU AND YOUR BROTHER
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- HOW DO YOU AND YOUR BROTHER WORK THAT STUFF OUT?
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- WORK THAT STUFF OUT? - ANDY: JON AND I, YOU KNOW,
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- - ANDY: JON AND I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BLUE COLLAR,
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- WE'RE BLUE COLLAR, SO "FILMMAKER" KIND OF
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- SO "FILMMAKER" KIND OF ENCOMPASSES ALL OF IT, BUT
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- ENCOMPASSES ALL OF IT, BUT WE PRODUCE AND DIRECT
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- WE PRODUCE AND DIRECT TOGETHER ALONG WITH
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- TOGETHER ALONG WITH OUR OTHER PRODUCERS
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- OUR OTHER PRODUCERS MARK MARCHAND AND
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- MARK MARCHAND AND KEVIN DOWNES, AND THEN JON
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- KEVIN DOWNES, AND THEN JON WROTE THE SCRIPT FOR IT
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- WROTE THE SCRIPT FOR IT WITH A GROUP OF OTHER
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- WITH A GROUP OF OTHER WRITERS, DAVID AARON
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- WRITERS, DAVID AARON COHEN AND JON GUNN, BUT IT
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- COHEN AND JON GUNN, BUT IT WAS--
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- WAS-- - ERIC: BUT YOU
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- - ERIC: BUT YOU DIRECT TOGETHER?
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- DIRECT TOGETHER? - ANDY: YEAH, WE DIRECT
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- - ANDY: YEAH, WE DIRECT TOGETHER.
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- TOGETHER. - ERIC: DOES ANYBODY ELSE
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- - ERIC: DOES ANYBODY ELSE DIRECT TOGETHER?
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- DIRECT TOGETHER? LIKE, DID THE COEN
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- LIKE, DID THE COEN BROTHERS DIRECT TOGETHER?
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- BROTHERS DIRECT TOGETHER? HOW DOES THAT WORK?
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- HOW DOES THAT WORK? - ANDY: YUP, YEAH,
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- - ANDY: YUP, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF
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- THERE'S A LOT OF BROTHER-DIRECTOR TEAMS,
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- BROTHER-DIRECTOR TEAMS, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW,
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- WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE COEN BROTHERS OR
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- THE COEN BROTHERS OR THE DUFFER BROTHERS
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- THE DUFFER BROTHERS DO "STRANGER."
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- DO "STRANGER." THERE'S A LOT OF
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- THERE'S A LOT OF BROTHER TEAMS, AND
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- BROTHER TEAMS, AND I THINK IT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL
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- I THINK IT'S DYSFUNCTIONAL IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORD.
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- WE ARGUE A LOT, BUT IN
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- WE ARGUE A LOT, BUT IN THAT, WE HAVE THIS POLICY
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- THAT, WE HAVE THIS POLICY OF "BEST IDEA WINS."
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- OF "BEST IDEA WINS." IT'S FRICTION WITH RESPECT.
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- IT'S FRICTION WITH RESPECT. AND THERE'S A NECESSITY OF
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- AND THERE'S A NECESSITY OF FRICTION IN CREATING
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- FRICTION IN CREATING REALLY GOOD STORIES, AND
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- REALLY GOOD STORIES, AND THAT'S HOW WE WORK.
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- - ERIC: IT MUST BE
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- - ERIC: IT MUST BE GRATIFYING TO GET TO WORK
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- GRATIFYING TO GET TO WORK WITH FOLKS LIKE THIS, WHO
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- WITH FOLKS LIKE THIS, WHO KNOW THEIR WAY AROUND A
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- KNOW THEIR WAY AROUND A FILM SET, SO TO SPEAK.
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- FILM SET, SO TO SPEAK. - ANDY: OH, YEAH, YEAH,
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- - ANDY: OH, YEAH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, YOU
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- YOU KNOW, FOR ME, YOU KNOW, EACH TIME I GET TO
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- KNOW, EACH TIME I GET TO WORK WITH A LEGEND LIKE
- 00:06:13.176 --> 00:06:16.646
- WORK WITH A LEGEND LIKE FLORES OR JON VOIGHT OR
- 00:06:16.712 --> 00:06:17.547
- FLORES OR JON VOIGHT OR OTHERS OR GARY SINESE,
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- OTHERS OR GARY SINESE, WHO'S ONE OF MY HEROES,
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- WHO'S ONE OF MY HEROES, YOU KNOW, WHENEVER
- 00:06:19.215 --> 00:06:20.450
- YOU KNOW, WHENEVER I GET TO WORK WITH ONE OF
- 00:06:20.516 --> 00:06:21.584
- I GET TO WORK WITH ONE OF 'EM, IT MAKES MY JOB
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- 'EM, IT MAKES MY JOB SO MUCH EASIER AS A DIRECTOR.
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- SO MUCH EASIER AS A DIRECTOR. I JUST SIT AROUND AND ASK
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- I JUST SIT AROUND AND ASK FOR-- "TELL ME THE STORIES
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- FOR-- "TELL ME THE STORIES OF, KIND OF, THE EARLY DAYS,"
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- OF, KIND OF, THE EARLY DAYS," AND, JUST, KIND OF,
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- AND, JUST, KIND OF, THE ROMANTIC STORIES OF
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- THE ROMANTIC STORIES OF OLD HOLLYWOOD IS SOMETHIN'
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- OLD HOLLYWOOD IS SOMETHIN' I LOVE.
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- I LOVE. ON THIS ONE, WE GOT TO
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- ON THIS ONE, WE GOT TO WORK WITH BRUCE MCGILL,
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- WORK WITH BRUCE MCGILL, WHO, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN IN
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- WHO, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN IN EVERYTHING, AND BRUCE,
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- EVERYTHING, AND BRUCE, I WOULD JUST SIT AROUND AND
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- I WOULD JUST SIT AROUND AND SAY, "TELL ME HOW
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- SAY, "TELL ME HOW MICHAEL MANN DOES IT.
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- MICHAEL MANN DOES IT. TELL ME HOW STEVEN SPIELBERG
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- TELL ME HOW STEVEN SPIELBERG DOES IT,"
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- DOES IT," AND, JUST, I WOULD JUST HEAR
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- AND, JUST, I WOULD JUST HEAR THESE STORIES.
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- THESE STORIES. I'D BE LIKE, "OH, I'M
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- I'D BE LIKE, "OH, I'M STEALING THAT,
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- STEALING THAT, I'M STEALING THAT,"
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- I'M STEALING THAT," SO WE LOVE IT,
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- SO WE LOVE IT, AND I THINK, AS CHRISTIANS,
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- AND I THINK, AS CHRISTIANS, THE COOL THING IS,
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- THE COOL THING IS, LIKE, FOR YEARS, IT
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- LIKE, FOR YEARS, IT WAS VERY HARD FOR US TO
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- WAS VERY HARD FOR US TO KIND OF GET TRACTION WITH,
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- KIND OF GET TRACTION WITH, YOU KNOW, THE TALENT THAT
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- YOU KNOW, THE TALENT THAT WE WANTED IN FRONT OF THE
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- WE WANTED IN FRONT OF THE CAMERAS, AND NOW THE DOORS
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- CAMERAS, AND NOW THE DOORS HAVE REALLY BEEN OPENED UP
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- HAVE REALLY BEEN OPENED UP TO THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF
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- TO THIS MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TALENT THAT'S WILLING TO
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- TALENT THAT'S WILLING TO WORK ON THINGS THAT HAVE
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- WORK ON THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FAITH, AND I
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- TO DO WITH FAITH, AND I THINK THAT'S EXCITING TO
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- THINK THAT'S EXCITING TO SEE THAT CONVERSATION KIND
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- SEE THAT CONVERSATION KIND OF GO OUTWARD.
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- OF GO OUTWARD. - ERIC: WELL, LOOK, IT
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- - ERIC: WELL, LOOK, IT REALLY IS, AND PART OF THE
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- REALLY IS, AND PART OF THE REASON THAT I GET SO
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- REASON THAT I GET SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND
- 00:07:11.100 --> 00:07:11.567
- EXCITED ABOUT THIS AND THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING
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- THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING
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- ABOUT THIS KIND OF THING FOR YEARS IS I REALLY DO
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- FOR YEARS IS I REALLY DO BELIEVE-- AND I KNOW YOU
- 00:07:14.837 --> 00:07:15.905
- BELIEVE-- AND I KNOW YOU AND YOUR BROTHER GET THIS--
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- AND YOUR BROTHER GET THIS-- THAT YOU REALLY HAVE
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- THAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO SPEAK THROUGH THE
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- TO SPEAK THROUGH THE CULTURE ABOUT GOD, THAT IF
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- CULTURE ABOUT GOD, THAT IF PEOPLE JUST HEAR IT IN A
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- PEOPLE JUST HEAR IT IN A RELIGIOUS CONTEXT, THEN
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- RELIGIOUS CONTEXT, THEN THEY PUT IT IN THAT BOX.
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- THEY PUT IT IN THAT BOX. IT DOESN'T COME INTO THEIR
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- IT DOESN'T COME INTO THEIR WORLD, AND A LOT OF THESE
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- WORLD, AND A LOT OF THESE STORIES, I MEAN, THERE ARE
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- STORIES, I MEAN, THERE ARE SO FEW FILMS LIKE THIS.
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- SO FEW FILMS LIKE THIS. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO GO WAY
- 00:07:32.488 --> 00:07:33.055
- I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO GO WAY BACK TO "CHARIOTS OF FIRE"
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- BACK TO "CHARIOTS OF FIRE" OR TO "A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS."
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- OR TO "A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS." I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE
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- I MEAN, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE LUCKY IF ONCE A DECADE
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- LUCKY IF ONCE A DECADE YOU GET A STORY LIKE THIS.
- 00:07:39.462 --> 00:07:41.097
- YOU GET A STORY LIKE THIS. SO I ACTUALLY BELIEVE
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- SO I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT, IN PART, BECAUSE OF
- 00:07:43.232 --> 00:07:45.368
- THAT, IN PART, BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU AND JON ARE DOING,
- 00:07:45.434 --> 00:07:47.169
- WHAT YOU AND JON ARE DOING, THAT THERE'S A RENAISSANCE.
- 00:07:47.236 --> 00:07:47.770
- THAT THERE'S A RENAISSANCE. THERE'S SOMETHING
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- THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING THAT IS DEEPLY
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- HAPPENING THAT IS DEEPLY HEALTHY FOR OUR CULTURE.
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- HEALTHY FOR OUR CULTURE. WE NEED THIS.
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- WE NEED THIS. WE'VE BEEN KIND OF
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- WE'VE BEEN KIND OF DISPROPORTIONATELY SECULAR.
- 00:07:56.512 --> 00:07:57.146
- DISPROPORTIONATELY SECULAR. NOW, "AMERICAN UNDERDOG,"
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- NOW, "AMERICAN UNDERDOG," I WISH I COULD INVEST
- 00:07:58.447 --> 00:08:00.616
- I WISH I COULD INVEST BECAUSE IT'S VERY RARE
- 00:08:00.683 --> 00:08:02.251
- BECAUSE IT'S VERY RARE THAT SOMETHING COMES
- 00:08:02.318 --> 00:08:02.718
- THAT SOMETHING COMES ALONG LIKE THIS.
- 00:08:02.785 --> 00:08:06.889
- ALONG LIKE THIS. WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR YOUR
- 00:08:06.956 --> 00:08:07.423
- WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR YOUR FUTURE?
- 00:08:07.490 --> 00:08:07.723
- FUTURE? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS
- 00:08:07.790 --> 00:08:08.257
- BECAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE PROBABLY WORKING ON
- 00:08:08.324 --> 00:08:09.058
- ARE PROBABLY WORKING ON OTHER PROJECTS.
- 00:08:09.125 --> 00:08:09.759
- OTHER PROJECTS. ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN MENTION?
- 00:08:09.825 --> 00:08:11.494
- ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN MENTION? I DON'T KNOW.
- 00:08:11.561 --> 00:08:13.930
- I DON'T KNOW. - ANDY: YEAH,
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- - ANDY: YEAH, THE EXCITING THING IS
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- THE EXCITING THING IS EACH OPPORTUNITY THAT
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- EACH OPPORTUNITY THAT THE AUDIENCE SHOWS UP,
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- THE AUDIENCE SHOWS UP, THEY'RE VOTING WITH THEIR
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- THEY'RE VOTING WITH THEIR MOVIE TICKET FOR MORE
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- MOVIE TICKET FOR MORE CONTENT LIKE THIS, AND
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- CONTENT LIKE THIS, AND IT'S NOT ABOUT JON AND I
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- IT'S NOT ABOUT JON AND I AS A BRAND.
- 00:08:23.005 --> 00:08:25.007
- AS A BRAND. IT'S REALLY ABOUT--
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- IT'S REALLY ABOUT-- THE REASON WHY WE NAMED OUR
- 00:08:26.309 --> 00:08:26.842
- THE REASON WHY WE NAMED OUR COMPANY KINGDOM STORY
- 00:08:26.909 --> 00:08:28.077
- COMPANY KINGDOM STORY COMPANY IS WE WANTED TO DO
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- COMPANY IS WE WANTED TO DO THINGS THAT,
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- COULD BUILD THINGS FOR
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- COULD BUILD THINGS FOR ENTERTAINMENT BUT ALSO
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- ENTERTAINMENT BUT ALSO HAVE A, KIND OF,
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- HAVE A, KIND OF, A DOUBLE BOTTOM LINE, THAT
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- A DOUBLE BOTTOM LINE, THAT KINGDOM ETERNAL PURPOSE
- 00:08:35.818 --> 00:08:36.285
- KINGDOM ETERNAL PURPOSE TO, KIND OF,
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- ELEVATE OTHER VOICES THAT
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- ELEVATE OTHER VOICES THAT ARE UP AND COMING TO TELL
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- ARE UP AND COMING TO TELL THEIR STORIES.
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- THEIR STORIES. SO THE THING I'M EXCITED
- 00:08:43.793 --> 00:08:44.594
- SO THE THING I'M EXCITED ABOUT IS THAT THAT PLAYING
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- ABOUT IS THAT THAT PLAYING FIELD CONTINUES TO BROADEN
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- FIELD CONTINUES TO BROADEN AND WIDEN, AND WE'VE GOT
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- AND WIDEN, AND WE'VE GOT PROJECTS COMING OUT, NOT
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- PROJECTS COMING OUT, NOT JUST FROM JON AND ME BUT
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- JUST FROM JON AND ME BUT FROM OTHER FILMMAKERS LIKE
- 00:08:52.468 --> 00:08:53.269
- FROM OTHER FILMMAKERS LIKE JON GUNN, WHO DIRECTED
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- JON GUNN, WHO DIRECTED "CASE FOR CHRIST."
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- "CASE FOR CHRIST." HE'S GOT AN INCREDIBLE FILM
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- HE'S GOT AN INCREDIBLE FILM COMING OUT IN MARCH, CALLED
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- COMING OUT IN MARCH, CALLED "THE UNBREAKABLE BOY,"
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- "THE UNBREAKABLE BOY," THAT'S A LOT LIKE A
- 00:08:59.175 --> 00:09:00.276
- THAT'S A LOT LIKE A MOVIE LIKE "WONDER."
- 00:09:00.343 --> 00:09:01.944
- MOVIE LIKE "WONDER." IT'S JUST A INCREDIBLE,
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- IT'S JUST A INCREDIBLE, TRUE STORY.
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- TRUE STORY. WE'VE GOT
- 00:09:03.713 --> 00:09:04.480
- WE'VE GOT "JESUS REVOLUTION" ABOUT
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- "JESUS REVOLUTION" ABOUT THE EARLY DAYS OF THE JESUS
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- THE EARLY DAYS OF THE JESUS MOVEMENT THAT'S A FEATURE
- 00:09:07.650 --> 00:09:09.018
- MOVEMENT THAT'S A FEATURE THAT MY BROTHER IS
- 00:09:09.085 --> 00:09:09.819
- THAT MY BROTHER IS DIRECTING.
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- DIRECTING. I'M DEVELOPING A WAR MOVIE
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- I'M DEVELOPING A WAR MOVIE THAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT
- 00:09:13.155 --> 00:09:14.190
- THAT I CAN'T TALK ABOUT YET, BUT IT'S BASED ON A
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- YET, BUT IT'S BASED ON A "NEW YORK TIMES"
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- "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST SELLER, AND I'M REALLY
- 00:09:15.925 --> 00:09:17.660
- BEST SELLER, AND I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT I
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- EXCITED ABOUT IT, BUT I CAN'T ANNOUNCE IT YET.
- 00:09:18.260 --> 00:09:19.095
- CAN'T ANNOUNCE IT YET. AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF
- 00:09:19.161 --> 00:09:19.662
- AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF REALLY COOL STUFF.
- 00:09:19.729 --> 00:09:20.463
- REALLY COOL STUFF. - ERIC: NOW, WAIT A MINUTE.
- 00:09:20.529 --> 00:09:21.063
- - ERIC: NOW, WAIT A MINUTE. IT MAKES ME WANNA GUESS.
- 00:09:21.130 --> 00:09:21.597
- IT MAKES ME WANNA GUESS. IT'S BASED ON A
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- IT'S BASED ON A "NEW YORK TIMES"
- 00:09:22.064 --> 00:09:22.498
- "NEW YORK TIMES" BEST SELLER, AND
- 00:09:22.565 --> 00:09:23.132
- BEST SELLER, AND YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT,
- 00:09:23.199 --> 00:09:24.066
- YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S A WAR.
- 00:09:24.133 --> 00:09:24.500
- BUT IT'S A WAR. - ANDY: DON'T GUESS,
- 00:09:24.567 --> 00:09:25.067
- - ANDY: DON'T GUESS, DON'T GUESS.
- 00:09:25.134 --> 00:09:25.968
- DON'T GUESS. I CAN'T-- I CAN'T--
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- I CAN'T-- I CAN'T-- - ERIC: BUT THE WAR
- 00:09:27.036 --> 00:09:27.436
- - ERIC: BUT THE WAR HAPPENED, RIGHT?
- 00:09:27.503 --> 00:09:28.004
- HAPPENED, RIGHT? IT'S NOT A FUTURE WAR?
- 00:09:28.070 --> 00:09:28.604
- IT'S NOT A FUTURE WAR? - ANDY: NO, NO, NO, IT'S NOT.
- 00:09:28.671 --> 00:09:29.305
- - ANDY: NO, NO, NO, IT'S NOT. I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT HERE.
- 00:09:29.372 --> 00:09:30.072
- I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT HERE. - ERIC: DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
- 00:09:30.139 --> 00:09:30.706
- - ERIC: DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. WE'RE NOT GONNA--
- 00:09:30.773 --> 00:09:31.140
- WE'RE NOT GONNA-- - ANDY: YOU CAN'T PULL
- 00:09:31.207 --> 00:09:31.674
- - ANDY: YOU CAN'T PULL IT OUT OF ME.
- 00:09:31.741 --> 00:09:32.041
- IT OUT OF ME. - ERIC: I'M NOT HERE TO
- 00:09:32.108 --> 00:09:32.575
- - ERIC: I'M NOT HERE TO GET YOU IN TROUBLE, BUT
- 00:09:32.642 --> 00:09:33.242
- GET YOU IN TROUBLE, BUT I'M EXCITED THAT YOU'RE
- 00:09:33.309 --> 00:09:33.776
- I'M EXCITED THAT YOU'RE WORKIN' ON IT.
- 00:09:33.843 --> 00:09:34.143
- WORKIN' ON IT. - ANDY: BUT I WILL COME
- 00:09:34.210 --> 00:09:34.844
- - ANDY: BUT I WILL COME BACK, AND WE'LL TALK, BUT
- 00:09:34.910 --> 00:09:35.678
- BACK, AND WE'LL TALK, BUT WHEN WE ANNOUNCE, YOU'LL
- 00:09:35.745 --> 00:09:36.612
- WHEN WE ANNOUNCE, YOU'LL BE THE FIRST PERSON I'D
- 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:37.246
- BE THE FIRST PERSON I'D TELL SO--
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- TELL SO-- - ERIC: WOW.
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- - ERIC: WOW. - ANDY: -- IT'LL BE TIME.
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- - ANDY: -- IT'LL BE TIME. - ERIC: ALBIN, DID YOU
- 00:09:41.217 --> 00:09:41.884
- - ERIC: ALBIN, DID YOU HEAR THAT?
- 00:09:41.951 --> 00:09:42.385
- HEAR THAT? WRITE THAT DOWN.
- 00:09:42.451 --> 00:09:42.985
- WRITE THAT DOWN. WRITE THAT DOWN.
- 00:09:43.052 --> 00:09:43.653
- WRITE THAT DOWN. WE'RE GONNA HOLD THESE
- 00:09:43.719 --> 00:09:44.186
- WE'RE GONNA HOLD THESE GUYS.
- 00:09:44.253 --> 00:09:45.021
- GUYS. SERIOUSLY THOUGH, I'M
- 00:09:45.087 --> 00:09:46.122
- SERIOUSLY THOUGH, I'M EXCITED FOR YOU, AND I'M
- 00:09:46.188 --> 00:09:46.656
- EXCITED FOR YOU, AND I'M EXCITED FOR THE FILM, BUT
- 00:09:46.722 --> 00:09:47.523
- EXCITED FOR THE FILM, BUT I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR
- 00:09:47.590 --> 00:09:48.024
- I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR ENTERTAINMENT IN AMERICA
- 00:09:48.090 --> 00:09:49.058
- ENTERTAINMENT IN AMERICA BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.
- 00:09:49.125 --> 00:09:50.059
- BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. YOU KNOW THIS.
- 00:09:50.126 --> 00:09:52.328
- YOU KNOW THIS. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SO
- 00:09:52.395 --> 00:09:53.796
- IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SO THAT, WHEN YOU GET TO TELL
- 00:09:53.863 --> 00:09:54.964
- THAT, WHEN YOU GET TO TELL A STORY LIKE THIS AND OPEN
- 00:09:55.031 --> 00:09:55.998
- A STORY LIKE THIS AND OPEN IN 3.000 THEATERS ON
- 00:09:56.065 --> 00:09:58.100
- IN 3.000 THEATERS ON CHRISTMAS DAY, THAT'S A
- 00:09:58.167 --> 00:09:59.902
- CHRISTMAS DAY, THAT'S A MILESTONE IN THE STORY OF
- 00:09:59.969 --> 00:10:02.738
- MILESTONE IN THE STORY OF AMERICAN ENTERTAINMENT.
- 00:10:02.805 --> 00:10:04.206
- AMERICAN ENTERTAINMENT. WE CAN'T-- YOU KNOW, THIS
- 00:10:04.273 --> 00:10:05.207
- WE CAN'T-- YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT "BUSINESS AS USUAL."
- 00:10:05.274 --> 00:10:06.842
- IS NOT "BUSINESS AS USUAL." WE DON'T HAVE THIS
- 00:10:06.909 --> 00:10:07.343
- WE DON'T HAVE THIS KIND OF STUFF
- 00:10:07.410 --> 00:10:08.644
- KIND OF STUFF HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
- 00:10:08.711 --> 00:10:10.146
- HAPPENING ALL THE TIME. SO YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SO
- 00:10:10.212 --> 00:10:10.680
- SO YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN SO FAITHFUL OVER THE YEARS,
- 00:10:10.746 --> 00:10:12.281
- FAITHFUL OVER THE YEARS, AND I JUST WANNA SAY
- 00:10:12.348 --> 00:10:13.916
- AND I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND
- 00:10:13.983 --> 00:10:15.184
- CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH
- 00:10:15.251 --> 00:10:16.385
- EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH THIS FILM.
- 00:10:16.452 --> 00:10:17.420
- THIS FILM. I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE IT.
- 00:10:17.486 --> 00:10:18.654
- I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE IT. I KNOW THAT MY AUDIENCE IS
- 00:10:18.721 --> 00:10:20.556
- I KNOW THAT MY AUDIENCE IS PROPERLY EXCITED TO SEE
- 00:10:20.623 --> 00:10:23.759
- PROPERLY EXCITED TO SEE IT.
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- IT. BUT GOD BLESS YOU, ANDY.
- 00:10:24.560 --> 00:10:25.027
- BUT GOD BLESS YOU, ANDY. GIVE OUR BEST TO JON, AND
- 00:10:25.094 --> 00:10:25.728
- GIVE OUR BEST TO JON, AND TO BE CONTINUED.
- 00:10:25.795 --> 00:10:27.296
- TO BE CONTINUED. VERY EXCITED FOR YOU.
- 00:10:27.363 --> 00:10:28.497
- VERY EXCITED FOR YOU. - ANDY: ERIC, YOU'RE THE
- 00:10:28.564 --> 00:10:29.065
- - ANDY: ERIC, YOU'RE THE BEST.
- 00:10:29.131 --> 00:10:29.365
- BEST. APPRECIATE YOUR
- 00:10:29.432 --> 00:10:29.832
- APPRECIATE YOUR FRIENDSHIP, BUDDY.
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- FRIENDSHIP, BUDDY. [MUSIC]
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- FRIENDSHIP, BUDDY. [MUSIC]
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- [MUSIC] [MUSIC]
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- [MUSIC] - ERIC: HEY THERE, FOLKS.
- 00:10:40.709 --> 00:10:41.910
- THIS IS "THE ERIC METAXAS
- 00:10:42.510 --> 00:10:43.411
- THIS IS "THE ERIC METAXAS SHOW."
- 00:10:43.478 --> 00:10:43.845
- SHOW." IT'S OFFICIALLY NAMED THAT.
- 00:10:43.912 --> 00:10:44.446
- IT'S OFFICIALLY NAMED THAT. WE GOT IT BECAUSE NOBODY
- 00:10:44.512 --> 00:10:45.580
- WE GOT IT BECAUSE NOBODY TOOK THE NAME.
- 00:10:45.647 --> 00:10:46.915
- TOOK THE NAME. I HAPPEN TO BE ALSO NAMED
- 00:10:46.981 --> 00:10:47.682
- I HAPPEN TO BE ALSO NAMED ERIC METAXAS.
- 00:10:47.749 --> 00:10:48.083
- ERIC METAXAS. AND I GET TO INTERVIEW
- 00:10:48.149 --> 00:10:49.050
- AND I GET TO INTERVIEW PEOPLE ABOUT EVERYTHING,
- 00:10:49.117 --> 00:10:50.885
- SO WE CALL IT "THE SHOW
- 00:10:51.453 --> 00:10:52.487
- SO WE CALL IT "THE SHOW ABOUT EVERYTHING." AS YOU
- 00:10:52.554 --> 00:10:53.054
- ABOUT EVERYTHING." AS YOU KNOW, I LOVE HISTORY, AND
- 00:10:53.121 --> 00:10:54.189
- KNOW, I LOVE HISTORY, AND TODAY I GET TO TALK TO THE
- 00:10:54.255 --> 00:10:55.724
- TODAY I GET TO TALK TO THE AUTHOR OF A BOOK CALLED
- 00:10:55.790 --> 00:10:56.791
- AUTHOR OF A BOOK CALLED "THE PRESIDENT AND THE
- 00:10:56.858 --> 00:10:57.892
- "THE PRESIDENT AND THE FREEDOM FIGHTER:
- 00:10:57.959 --> 00:10:59.928
- FREEDOM FIGHTER: ABRAHAM LINCOLN,
- 00:10:59.994 --> 00:11:00.495
- ABRAHAM LINCOLN, FREDERICK DOUGLASS,
- 00:11:00.562 --> 00:11:01.329
- FREDERICK DOUGLASS, AND THEIR BATTLE
- 00:11:01.396 --> 00:11:02.097
- AND THEIR BATTLE TO SAVE AMERICA'S SOUL."
- 00:11:02.163 --> 00:11:03.431
- TO SAVE AMERICA'S SOUL." AND THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK
- 00:11:03.498 --> 00:11:03.998
- AND THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK IS SOMEONE YOU MAY KNOW,
- 00:11:04.065 --> 00:11:05.300
- IS SOMEONE YOU MAY KNOW, NAMED BRIAN KILMEADE.
- 00:11:05.366 --> 00:11:07.068
- NAMED BRIAN KILMEADE. BRIAN, YOU LOOK VERY
- 00:11:07.135 --> 00:11:07.802
- BRIAN, YOU LOOK VERY FAMILIAR.
- 00:11:07.869 --> 00:11:08.503
- - BRIAN KILMEADE: ERIC,
- 00:11:09.137 --> 00:11:09.604
- - BRIAN KILMEADE: ERIC, THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR
- 00:11:09.671 --> 00:11:10.605
- THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS.
- 00:11:10.672 --> 00:11:11.706
- SUPPORT OVER THE YEARS. EVERY TIME I HAVE A BOOK
- 00:11:11.773 --> 00:11:12.207
- EVERY TIME I HAVE A BOOK OUT, YOU ALWAYS SAY,
- 00:11:12.273 --> 00:11:12.841
- OUT, YOU ALWAYS SAY, "COME DOWN," TO THIS CATHEDRAL,
- 00:11:12.907 --> 00:11:13.475
- AND THIS PLACE IS THE
- 00:11:14.042 --> 00:11:14.542
- AND THIS PLACE IS THE NICEST STUDIO I'VE EVER
- 00:11:14.609 --> 00:11:15.076
- NICEST STUDIO I'VE EVER SEEN-- PERIOD.
- 00:11:15.143 --> 00:11:18.179
- SEEN-- PERIOD. - ERIC: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
- 00:11:18.246 --> 00:11:19.214
- - ERIC: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HEY, LOOK, PEOPLE, IF
- 00:11:19.280 --> 00:11:19.714
- HEY, LOOK, PEOPLE, IF YOU'RE JUST TUNING IN,
- 00:11:19.781 --> 00:11:20.482
- YOU'RE JUST TUNING IN, THIS GUY HAS BEEN ON
- 00:11:20.548 --> 00:11:21.015
- THIS GUY HAS BEEN ON "FOX & FRIENDS" FOR HOW MANY
- 00:11:21.082 --> 00:11:21.983
- "FOX & FRIENDS" FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW?
- 00:11:22.050 --> 00:11:22.817
- YEARS NOW? - BRIAN: TWENTY-FIVE.
- 00:11:22.884 --> 00:11:24.986
- - BRIAN: TWENTY-FIVE. RADIO SHOW FOR 13.
- 00:11:25.053 --> 00:11:25.720
- RADIO SHOW FOR 13. - ERIC: WELL, HOLD ON A
- 00:11:25.787 --> 00:11:26.221
- - ERIC: WELL, HOLD ON A SECOND.
- 00:11:26.287 --> 00:11:26.888
- SECOND. DID YOU JUST SAY 25?
- 00:11:26.955 --> 00:11:27.355
- DID YOU JUST SAY 25? - BRIAN: YEAH, I STARTED
- 00:11:27.422 --> 00:11:28.723
- - BRIAN: YEAH, I STARTED FILLING IN, IN '96.
- 00:11:28.790 --> 00:11:29.858
- FILLING IN, IN '96. - ERIC: YOU WERE IN
- 00:11:29.924 --> 00:11:30.458
- - ERIC: YOU WERE IN JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL?
- 00:11:30.525 --> 00:11:31.359
- JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL? - BRIAN: I THOUGHT SO, YEAH.
- 00:11:31.426 --> 00:11:32.961
- - BRIAN: I THOUGHT SO, YEAH. IT WAS CRAZY.
- 00:11:33.027 --> 00:11:33.862
- IT WAS CRAZY. - ERIC: YOU'RE POP WARNER
- 00:11:33.928 --> 00:11:34.429
- - ERIC: YOU'RE POP WARNER FOOTBALL, AND THEY GRABBED
- 00:11:34.496 --> 00:11:34.996
- FOOTBALL, AND THEY GRABBED YOU?
- 00:11:35.063 --> 00:11:35.296
- YOU? - BRIAN: IT TOOK ME 12
- 00:11:35.363 --> 00:11:35.830
- - BRIAN: IT TOOK ME 12 YEARS TO TO GET TO FOX,
- 00:11:35.897 --> 00:11:37.232
- YEARS TO TO GET TO FOX, AND THEN ONCE I GOT THERE,
- 00:11:37.298 --> 00:11:38.500
- AND THEN ONCE I GOT THERE, I REALIZED HOW GREAT
- 00:11:38.566 --> 00:11:39.501
- I REALIZED HOW GREAT IT WAS EVEN THOUGH
- 00:11:39.567 --> 00:11:40.068
- IT WAS EVEN THOUGH NO ONE HAD EVER HEARD OF
- 00:11:40.135 --> 00:11:41.369
- NO ONE HAD EVER HEARD OF IT YET.
- 00:11:41.436 --> 00:11:41.803
- IT YET. SO, WHEN IT STARTED, I
- 00:11:41.870 --> 00:11:43.371
- SO, WHEN IT STARTED, I STARTED FILLING IN AS A
- 00:11:43.438 --> 00:11:44.239
- STARTED FILLING IN AS A SPORTS GUY, AND THEN IT
- 00:11:44.305 --> 00:11:45.406
- SPORTS GUY, AND THEN IT EVOLVED, AND THINGS
- 00:11:45.473 --> 00:11:47.509
- EVOLVED, AND THINGS STARTED GOIN' CRAZY FROM
- 00:11:47.575 --> 00:11:48.309
- STARTED GOIN' CRAZY FROM THE WAR, FROM THE ELECTION
- 00:11:48.376 --> 00:11:51.679
- THE WAR, FROM THE ELECTION MESS, TO THE WAR ON
- 00:11:51.746 --> 00:11:52.614
- MESS, TO THE WAR ON TERROR, TO THE IRAQ WAR,
- 00:11:52.680 --> 00:11:55.650
- TERROR, TO THE IRAQ WAR, AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW--
- 00:11:55.717 --> 00:11:56.251
- AND NEXT THING YOU KNOW-- - ERIC: YOU MEAN THE
- 00:11:56.317 --> 00:11:56.751
- - ERIC: YOU MEAN THE FIRST ELECTION MESS.
- 00:11:56.818 --> 00:11:57.218
- FIRST ELECTION MESS. - BRIAN: YEAH, 2000.
- 00:11:57.285 --> 00:11:58.219
- - BRIAN: YEAH, 2000. - ERIC: CHAD, HANGING CHADS.
- 00:11:58.286 --> 00:11:59.387
- - ERIC: CHAD, HANGING CHADS. - BRIAN: YES.
- 00:11:59.454 --> 00:12:00.588
- - BRIAN: YES. - ERIC: SO YOU ARE THE
- 00:12:00.655 --> 00:12:01.122
- - ERIC: SO YOU ARE THE YOUNGEST LIVING INSTITUTION
- 00:12:01.189 --> 00:12:02.190
- YOUNGEST LIVING INSTITUTION IN THE COUNTRY.
- 00:12:02.257 --> 00:12:03.258
- IN THE COUNTRY. THAT'S PRETTY-- SERIOUSLY,
- 00:12:03.324 --> 00:12:03.825
- THAT'S PRETTY-- SERIOUSLY, THAT'S AMAZING, 25 YEARS
- 00:12:03.892 --> 00:12:04.793
- THAT'S AMAZING, 25 YEARS FROM THE BEGINNING.
- 00:12:04.859 --> 00:12:06.427
- FROM THE BEGINNING. - BRIAN: YEAH, I MEAN, I KNEW,
- 00:12:06.494 --> 00:12:07.862
- - BRIAN: YEAH, I MEAN, I KNEW, WHEN I WALKED INTO THAT PLACE,
- 00:12:07.929 --> 00:12:08.830
- WHEN I WALKED INTO THAT PLACE, IT WAS GONNA BE SPECIAL.
- 00:12:08.897 --> 00:12:09.864
- IT WAS GONNA BE SPECIAL. THEY WERE ALL ABOUT WINNING.
- 00:12:09.931 --> 00:12:12.300
- THEY WERE ALL ABOUT WINNING. THEY'RE ALL ABOUT SUBSTANCE.
- 00:12:12.367 --> 00:12:13.168
- THEY'RE ALL ABOUT SUBSTANCE. THEY'RE ALL ABOUT GETTING
- 00:12:13.234 --> 00:12:14.135
- THEY'RE ALL ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE,
- 00:12:14.202 --> 00:12:14.936
- THINGS DONE, COMPLETION-ORIENTED.
- 00:12:15.003 --> 00:12:15.904
- COMPLETION-ORIENTED. EVERY TIME THERE WOULD BE
- 00:12:15.970 --> 00:12:17.205
- EVERY TIME THERE WOULD BE A NEGATIVE STORY OUT,
- 00:12:17.272 --> 00:12:17.672
- A NEGATIVE STORY OUT, THEY WOULD PUT THEIR
- 00:12:17.739 --> 00:12:18.673
- THEY WOULD PUT THEIR HEADLINE ON THE WALL.
- 00:12:18.740 --> 00:12:19.741
- HEADLINE ON THE WALL. I'M LIKE, "WOW, THEY'RE
- 00:12:19.808 --> 00:12:20.375
- I'M LIKE, "WOW, THEY'RE NOT RUNNING FROM NEGATIVE
- 00:12:20.441 --> 00:12:21.276
- NOT RUNNING FROM NEGATIVE STORIES?"
- 00:12:21.342 --> 00:12:22.577
- STORIES?" THEY WOULD LAUGH AT BEING
- 00:12:22.644 --> 00:12:23.278
- THEY WOULD LAUGH AT BEING LAUGHED AT.
- 00:12:23.344 --> 00:12:24.412
- LAUGHED AT. I GO, "THESE GUYS, THIS IS
- 00:12:24.479 --> 00:12:24.946
- I GO, "THESE GUYS, THIS IS LIKE BILL PARCELLS--
- 00:12:25.013 --> 00:12:26.381
- LIKE BILL PARCELLS-- - ERIC: CHUTZPAH.
- 00:12:26.447 --> 00:12:27.682
- - ERIC: CHUTZPAH. - BRIAN: -- AND THE
- 00:12:27.749 --> 00:12:29.083
- - BRIAN: -- AND THE GIANTS BEFORE THEY WERE
- 00:12:29.150 --> 00:12:29.584
- GIANTS BEFORE THEY WERE EVEN 500 UNTIL RECENTLY.
- 00:12:29.651 --> 00:12:32.153
- EVEN 500 UNTIL RECENTLY. I'M TALKIN' ABOUT THE
- 00:12:32.220 --> 00:12:32.620
- I'M TALKIN' ABOUT THE BILL PARCELLS--
- 00:12:32.687 --> 00:12:33.087
- BILL PARCELLS-- - ERIC: I HONESTLY
- 00:12:33.154 --> 00:12:33.922
- - ERIC: I HONESTLY CANNOT BELIEVE 25 YEARS.
- 00:12:33.988 --> 00:12:34.455
- CANNOT BELIEVE 25 YEARS. GOOD FOR YOU.
- 00:12:34.522 --> 00:12:35.156
- GOOD FOR YOU. WELL, OKAY, BUT YOU'VE
- 00:12:35.223 --> 00:12:35.890
- WELL, OKAY, BUT YOU'VE BEEN WRITING BOOKS, AND
- 00:12:35.957 --> 00:12:36.891
- BEEN WRITING BOOKS, AND THE NEW ONE IS ABOUT
- 00:12:36.958 --> 00:12:38.827
- THE NEW ONE IS ABOUT LINCOLN AND
- 00:12:38.893 --> 00:12:40.562
- LINCOLN AND FREDERICK DOUGLASS,
- 00:12:40.628 --> 00:12:42.230
- FREDERICK DOUGLASS, "THE PRESIDENT
- 00:12:42.297 --> 00:12:43.231
- "THE PRESIDENT AND THE FREEDOM FIGHTER."
- 00:12:43.298 --> 00:12:44.632
- AND THE FREEDOM FIGHTER." I ALWAYS WANNA ASK
- 00:12:44.699 --> 00:12:45.600
- I ALWAYS WANNA ASK PEOPLE-- WHERE DID YOU GET
- 00:12:45.667 --> 00:12:46.501
- PEOPLE-- WHERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA TO WRITE A BOOK
- 00:12:46.568 --> 00:12:48.169
- THE IDEA TO WRITE A BOOK ABOUT LINCOLN AND
- 00:12:48.236 --> 00:12:49.637
- ABOUT LINCOLN AND FREDERICK DOUGLASS?
- 00:12:49.704 --> 00:12:51.539
- FREDERICK DOUGLASS? I MEAN, I KNOW THEY KNEW
- 00:12:51.606 --> 00:12:52.173
- I MEAN, I KNOW THEY KNEW EACH OTHER, BUT TALK ABOUT
- 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:52.740
- EACH OTHER, BUT TALK ABOUT THE IDEA BEHIND THIS.
- 00:12:52.807 --> 00:12:54.843
- THE IDEA BEHIND THIS. - BRIAN: I SAID,
- 00:12:54.909 --> 00:12:55.510
- - BRIAN: I SAID, "ALL RIGHT, THE CIVIL WAR.
- 00:12:55.577 --> 00:12:56.578
- "ALL RIGHT, THE CIVIL WAR. WHAT COULD I DO THAT'S NOT
- 00:12:56.644 --> 00:12:57.445
- WHAT COULD I DO THAT'S NOT PLOWED GROUND FROM
- 00:12:57.512 --> 00:12:59.113
- PLOWED GROUND FROM KEN BURNS' SERIES TO THE
- 00:12:59.180 --> 00:13:00.748
- KEN BURNS' SERIES TO THE REMARKABLE BOOK
- 00:13:00.815 --> 00:13:02.083
- REMARKABLE BOOK DAVID BLIGHT WROTE ABOUT
- 00:13:02.150 --> 00:13:03.384
- DAVID BLIGHT WROTE ABOUT FREDERICK DOUGLASS?
- 00:13:03.451 --> 00:13:04.552
- FREDERICK DOUGLASS? GOT, I THINK, BOOK OF THE
- 00:13:04.619 --> 00:13:05.620
- GOT, I THINK, BOOK OF THE YEAR, FIVE YEARS AGO.
- 00:13:05.687 --> 00:13:06.120
- YEAR, FIVE YEARS AGO. AND THEN, WHAT ABOUT
- 00:13:06.187 --> 00:13:07.155
- AND THEN, WHAT ABOUT LINCOLN?
- 00:13:07.222 --> 00:13:08.089
- LINCOLN? LITERALLY, YOU AND I HAVE
- 00:13:08.156 --> 00:13:08.890
- LITERALLY, YOU AND I HAVE THE SAME SITUATION.
- 00:13:08.957 --> 00:13:09.891
- THE SAME SITUATION. WE GET BOOKS ABOUT LINCOLN
- 00:13:09.958 --> 00:13:10.992
- WE GET BOOKS ABOUT LINCOLN TO OUR DESKS ALL THE TIME,
- 00:13:11.059 --> 00:13:13.027
- TO OUR DESKS ALL THE TIME, AND THEY'RE ALL GREAT.
- 00:13:13.094 --> 00:13:13.895
- AND THEY'RE ALL GREAT. I'M WAITIN' FOR A BAD ONE.
- 00:13:13.962 --> 00:13:15.263
- I'M WAITIN' FOR A BAD ONE. - ERIC: THERE'S ALMOST
- 00:13:15.330 --> 00:13:17.365
- - ERIC: THERE'S ALMOST NOBODY WHO'S BEEN WRITTEN
- 00:13:17.432 --> 00:13:17.932
- NOBODY WHO'S BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT MORE WHEREAS, LIKE,
- 00:13:17.999 --> 00:13:18.733
- ABOUT MORE WHEREAS, LIKE, MAYBE THREE PEOPLE WHO'VE
- 00:13:18.800 --> 00:13:19.300
- MAYBE THREE PEOPLE WHO'VE WRITTEN ABOUT-- LIKE,
- 00:13:19.367 --> 00:13:20.168
- WRITTEN ABOUT-- LIKE, NAPOLEON, JESUS, LINCOLN.
- 00:13:20.235 --> 00:13:21.436
- NAPOLEON, JESUS, LINCOLN. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW
- 00:13:21.502 --> 00:13:21.936
- I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN
- 00:13:22.003 --> 00:13:23.571
- MANY BOOKS HAVE BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT LINCOLN, SO,
- 00:13:23.638 --> 00:13:24.839
- WRITTEN ABOUT LINCOLN, SO, YEAH, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR
- 00:13:24.906 --> 00:13:25.707
- YEAH, WHAT DO YOU DO FOR A FRESH ANGLE ON THE
- 00:13:25.773 --> 00:13:28.076
- A FRESH ANGLE ON THE CIVIL WAR?
- 00:13:28.142 --> 00:13:28.476
- CIVIL WAR? - BRIAN: SO WHAT I WANTED
- 00:13:28.543 --> 00:13:29.043
- - BRIAN: SO WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS, ALSO, I DIDN'T
- 00:13:29.110 --> 00:13:29.944
- TO DO IS, ALSO, I DIDN'T MIND TACKLING RACE, BUT I
- 00:13:30.011 --> 00:13:32.146
- MIND TACKLING RACE, BUT I WANTED TO DO IT THROUGH
- 00:13:32.213 --> 00:13:32.881
- WANTED TO DO IT THROUGH QUOTES, NOT OPINION.
- 00:13:32.947 --> 00:13:33.348
- QUOTES, NOT OPINION. SO I SAID, "WHAT IF I TALK
- 00:13:33.414 --> 00:13:34.115
- SO I SAID, "WHAT IF I TALK ABOUT THEIR PARALLEL LIVES
- 00:13:34.182 --> 00:13:35.617
- ABOUT THEIR PARALLEL LIVES TO THE DEGREE IN WHICH
- 00:13:35.683 --> 00:13:36.618
- TO THE DEGREE IN WHICH THEY READ A LOT OF THE
- 00:13:36.684 --> 00:13:37.986
- THEY READ A LOT OF THE SAME BOOKS, THAT THEY
- 00:13:38.052 --> 00:13:38.920
- SAME BOOKS, THAT THEY OVERCAME INCREDIBLE
- 00:13:38.987 --> 00:13:39.654
- OVERCAME INCREDIBLE OBSTACLES-- NOTHING LIKE
- 00:13:39.721 --> 00:13:40.622
- OBSTACLES-- NOTHING LIKE FREDERICK DOUGLASS.
- 00:13:40.688 --> 00:13:41.356
- FREDERICK DOUGLASS. I GET IT.
- 00:13:41.422 --> 00:13:41.956
- I GET IT. GUY WAS ENSLAVED UNTIL HE
- 00:13:42.023 --> 00:13:43.691
- GUY WAS ENSLAVED UNTIL HE WAS 20 YEARS OLD,
- 00:13:43.758 --> 00:13:45.860
- WAS 20 YEARS OLD, TWO TRIES, GOT OUT IN
- 00:13:45.927 --> 00:13:47.128
- TWO TRIES, GOT OUT IN THE SECOND TIME, WITHIN
- 00:13:47.195 --> 00:13:48.329
- THE SECOND TIME, WITHIN SEVEN YEARS HAS A BIOGRAPHY.
- 00:13:48.396 --> 00:13:49.664
- SEVEN YEARS HAS A BIOGRAPHY. IT'S A BEST SELLER.
- 00:13:49.731 --> 00:13:51.666
- IT'S A BEST SELLER. AND THEN STARTS A WORLD
- 00:13:51.733 --> 00:13:53.434
- AND THEN STARTS A WORLD TOUR AND BECOMES FAMOUS IN
- 00:13:53.501 --> 00:13:54.202
- TOUR AND BECOMES FAMOUS IN SCOTLAND, IRELAND,
- 00:13:54.269 --> 00:13:56.070
- SCOTLAND, IRELAND, GERMANY, AND ENGLAND.
- 00:13:56.137 --> 00:13:58.106
- GERMANY, AND ENGLAND. THIS GUY WAS A SLAVE TEN
- 00:13:58.172 --> 00:13:59.474
- THIS GUY WAS A SLAVE TEN YEARS BEFORE BUT DECIDES
- 00:13:59.540 --> 00:14:01.109
- YEARS BEFORE BUT DECIDES TO COME BACK TO AMERICA
- 00:14:01.175 --> 00:14:02.310
- TO COME BACK TO AMERICA BECAUSE THERE'S 4 MILLION
- 00:14:02.377 --> 00:14:04.279
- BECAUSE THERE'S 4 MILLION ENSLAVED, 350.000 SLAVE
- 00:14:04.345 --> 00:14:05.513
- ENSLAVED, 350.000 SLAVE OWNERS, AND HE SEES
- 00:14:05.580 --> 00:14:06.414
- OWNERS, AND HE SEES POTENTIAL IN THIS GUY,
- 00:14:06.481 --> 00:14:07.448
- POTENTIAL IN THIS GUY, LINCOLN, AND THE
- 00:14:07.515 --> 00:14:08.616
- LINCOLN, AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT WERE
- 00:14:08.683 --> 00:14:09.717
- REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT WERE FINALLY READY TO DO
- 00:14:09.784 --> 00:14:10.418
- FINALLY READY TO DO SOMETHING.
- 00:14:10.485 --> 00:14:12.253
- SOMETHING. - ERIC: NOW, LOOK,
- 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:13.021
- - ERIC: NOW, LOOK, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS.
- 00:14:13.087 --> 00:14:13.988
- I DIDN'T KNOW THIS. PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS AMAZED
- 00:14:14.055 --> 00:14:15.123
- PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS AMAZED AT WHAT I DON'T KNOW.
- 00:14:15.189 --> 00:14:16.090
- AT WHAT I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ALMOST EVERYTHING.
- 00:14:16.157 --> 00:14:19.260
- I DON'T KNOW ALMOST EVERYTHING. AND WHEN I HEAR SOMETHIN'
- 00:14:19.327 --> 00:14:20.061
- AND WHEN I HEAR SOMETHIN' LIKE THIS, I SAY, WOW, I
- 00:14:20.128 --> 00:14:20.595
- LIKE THIS, I SAY, WOW, I DID NOT KNOW THAT
- 00:14:20.662 --> 00:14:21.029
- DID NOT KNOW THAT FREDERICK DOUGLASS WAS
- 00:14:21.095 --> 00:14:23.298
- FREDERICK DOUGLASS WAS THINKING THIS WAY AND THAT
- 00:14:23.364 --> 00:14:24.565
- THINKING THIS WAY AND THAT HE SAW SOMETHING IN LINCOLN.
- 00:14:24.632 --> 00:14:25.934
- HE SAW SOMETHING IN LINCOLN. WHAT YEAR WAS IT THAT HE,
- 00:14:26.000 --> 00:14:28.069
- WHAT YEAR WAS IT THAT HE, KIND OF, NOTICES LINCOLN?
- 00:14:28.136 --> 00:14:30.638
- KIND OF, NOTICES LINCOLN? - BRIAN: I THINK HE
- 00:14:30.705 --> 00:14:31.072
- - BRIAN: I THINK HE NOTICES HIM IN THE '50s,
- 00:14:31.139 --> 00:14:33.007
- NOTICES HIM IN THE '50s, AND HE GETS TO REALLY SEE
- 00:14:33.074 --> 00:14:33.975
- AND HE GETS TO REALLY SEE HIM AND READ ABOUT HIM IN
- 00:14:34.042 --> 00:14:35.009
- HIM AND READ ABOUT HIM IN THE LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATES,
- 00:14:35.076 --> 00:14:38.680
- THE LINCOLN-DOUGLAS DEBATES, AND WHAT I WAS FASCINATED
- 00:14:38.746 --> 00:14:39.247
- AND WHAT I WAS FASCINATED WITH, ERIC, IS WE'RE
- 00:14:39.314 --> 00:14:40.481
- WITH, ERIC, IS WE'RE BROADCASTERS, AND
- 00:14:40.548 --> 00:14:40.915
- BROADCASTERS, AND EVERYTHING CHANGED IN
- 00:14:40.982 --> 00:14:42.784
- EVERYTHING CHANGED IN BROADCASTING SINCE WE GOT IN.
- 00:14:42.850 --> 00:14:43.518
- BROADCASTING SINCE WE GOT IN. IT USED TO BE THE NETWORK
- 00:14:43.584 --> 00:14:44.085
- IT USED TO BE THE NETWORK NEWS AND CABLE.
- 00:14:44.152 --> 00:14:45.353
- NEWS AND CABLE. NOBODY WANTS CABLE.
- 00:14:45.420 --> 00:14:46.888
- NOBODY WANTS CABLE. NOW CABLE IS STREAMING,
- 00:14:46.955 --> 00:14:47.488
- NOW CABLE IS STREAMING, AND THEN, WHO KNOWS?
- 00:14:47.555 --> 00:14:47.956
- AND THEN, WHO KNOWS? EVERYONE'S GOT A SHOW AND
- 00:14:48.022 --> 00:14:48.623
- EVERYONE'S GOT A SHOW AND A NETWORK.
- 00:14:48.690 --> 00:14:49.557
- A NETWORK. BUT BACK THEN, IT WAS
- 00:14:49.624 --> 00:14:50.058
- BUT BACK THEN, IT WAS "GIVE A SPEECH.
- 00:14:50.124 --> 00:14:51.359
- "GIVE A SPEECH. MAKE SURE THAT SPEECH GETS
- 00:14:51.426 --> 00:14:53.194
- MAKE SURE THAT SPEECH GETS IN EVERY NEWSPAPER."
- 00:14:53.261 --> 00:14:54.696
- IN EVERY NEWSPAPER." SO THE COOPER UNION SPEECH
- 00:14:54.762 --> 00:14:55.596
- SO THE COOPER UNION SPEECH AND THE DOUGLAS DEBATES,
- 00:14:55.663 --> 00:14:59.867
- AND THE DOUGLAS DEBATES, YEAH, THEY HAD BIG CROWDS,
- 00:14:59.934 --> 00:15:00.435
- YEAH, THEY HAD BIG CROWDS, BUT IT WAS THE
- 00:15:00.501 --> 00:15:00.802
- BUT IT WAS THE TRANSCRIPTION OF THE
- 00:15:00.868 --> 00:15:01.269
- TRANSCRIPTION OF THE DEBATES THAT MADE THEM
- 00:15:01.336 --> 00:15:01.903
- DEBATES THAT MADE THEM FAMOUS.
- 00:15:01.970 --> 00:15:05.340
- FAMOUS. - ERIC: SUDDENLY, THE
- 00:15:05.406 --> 00:15:05.807
- - ERIC: SUDDENLY, THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS ABLE TO
- 00:15:05.873 --> 00:15:06.574
- WHOLE COUNTRY IS ABLE TO READ WHAT HE SAID.
- 00:15:06.641 --> 00:15:07.475
- READ WHAT HE SAID. - BRIAN: AND HE KNEW IT,
- 00:15:07.542 --> 00:15:10.044
- - BRIAN: AND HE KNEW IT, AND EVEN THOUGH HE WAS
- 00:15:10.111 --> 00:15:10.812
- AND EVEN THOUGH HE WAS BORN TO TWO ILLITERATE
- 00:15:10.878 --> 00:15:11.679
- BORN TO TWO ILLITERATE PARENTS AND HIS MOM DIES
- 00:15:11.746 --> 00:15:12.613
- PARENTS AND HIS MOM DIES WHEN HE WAS NINE YEARS OLD,
- 00:15:12.680 --> 00:15:14.082
- WHEN HE WAS NINE YEARS OLD, AND HE'S LIVIN' IN A RURAL,
- 00:15:14.148 --> 00:15:14.949
- AND HE'S LIVIN' IN A RURAL, AGRICULTURAL LIFE,
- 00:15:15.016 --> 00:15:16.250
- AGRICULTURAL LIFE, PHYSICALLY HE'S A
- 00:15:16.317 --> 00:15:18.453
- PHYSICALLY HE'S A SPECIMEN, AND HE HAS NO
- 00:15:18.519 --> 00:15:19.554
- SPECIMEN, AND HE HAS NO PUSH TO GET EDUCATED, BUT
- 00:15:19.620 --> 00:15:20.922
- PUSH TO GET EDUCATED, BUT ANOTHER THEME ABOUT
- 00:15:20.989 --> 00:15:21.456
- ANOTHER THEME ABOUT TODAY'S NEWS THAT MAKES IT
- 00:15:21.522 --> 00:15:23.257
- TODAY'S NEWS THAT MAKES IT EASY TO TALK ABOUT IT ON
- 00:15:23.324 --> 00:15:24.125
- EASY TO TALK ABOUT IT ON FOX IS THAT EDUCATION IS
- 00:15:24.192 --> 00:15:25.360
- FOX IS THAT EDUCATION IS WHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT.
- 00:15:25.426 --> 00:15:26.260
- WHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT. RACE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKIN'
- 00:15:26.327 --> 00:15:27.328
- RACE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT.
- 00:15:27.395 --> 00:15:28.262
- HIS STORY IS WHAT WE'RE
- 00:15:28.796 --> 00:15:29.263
- HIS STORY IS WHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT.
- 00:15:29.330 --> 00:15:29.864
- TALKIN' ABOUT. OUR HERITAGE IS WHAT WE'RE
- 00:15:29.931 --> 00:15:30.398
- OUR HERITAGE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKIN' ABOUT.
- 00:15:30.465 --> 00:15:32.000
- TALKIN' ABOUT. SO LINCOLN SAYS,
- 00:15:32.066 --> 00:15:33.034
- SO LINCOLN SAYS, "I'M GONNA MATTER."
- 00:15:33.101 --> 00:15:34.402
- "I'M GONNA MATTER." AND HE WOULD TAKE LONG
- 00:15:34.469 --> 00:15:35.436
- AND HE WOULD TAKE LONG TRIPS JUST TO PICK UP
- 00:15:35.503 --> 00:15:36.104
- TRIPS JUST TO PICK UP A BOOK, AS YOU KNOW,
- 00:15:36.170 --> 00:15:37.372
- AND THEN HE WOULD SIT
- 00:15:38.006 --> 00:15:38.806
- AND THEN HE WOULD SIT THERE AND TALK AND
- 00:15:38.873 --> 00:15:39.841
- THERE AND TALK AND INTERACT WITH PEOPLE
- 00:15:39.907 --> 00:15:40.808
- INTERACT WITH PEOPLE INTELLECTUALLY WHILE, AT
- 00:15:40.875 --> 00:15:42.443
- INTELLECTUALLY WHILE, AT THE SAME TIME, PHYSICALLY,
- 00:15:42.510 --> 00:15:43.678
- THE SAME TIME, PHYSICALLY, HE WAS WORKIN' THE LAND
- 00:15:43.745 --> 00:15:44.212
- HE WAS WORKIN' THE LAND WITH A DAD THAT SAID,
- 00:15:44.278 --> 00:15:45.580
- WITH A DAD THAT SAID, "PUT DOWN THE BOOKS.
- 00:15:45.646 --> 00:15:46.614
- "PUT DOWN THE BOOKS. WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE
- 00:15:46.681 --> 00:15:47.648
- WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE LEARNIN'.
- 00:15:47.715 --> 00:15:48.383
- LEARNIN'. YOU'VE GOTTA WORK FOR A
- 00:15:48.449 --> 00:15:48.916
- YOU'VE GOTTA WORK FOR A LIVIN'."
- 00:15:48.983 --> 00:15:49.717
- LIVIN'." BUT HE HAD A MOM
- 00:15:49.784 --> 00:15:50.985
- BUT HE HAD A MOM AND A STEPMOM THAT
- 00:15:51.052 --> 00:15:52.520
- AND A STEPMOM THAT PUSHED HIM TOWARDS THAT
- 00:15:52.587 --> 00:15:53.521
- PUSHED HIM TOWARDS THAT DIRECTION, BECOMES A
- 00:15:53.588 --> 00:15:54.022
- DIRECTION, BECOMES A LAWYER, GETS OUT ON HIS OWN,
- 00:15:54.088 --> 00:15:55.723
- LAWYER, GETS OUT ON HIS OWN, DETERMINED IT MATTERS,
- 00:15:55.790 --> 00:15:56.557
- DETERMINED IT MATTERS, STARTS RUNNING FOR OFFICE,
- 00:15:56.624 --> 00:15:57.458
- STARTS RUNNING FOR OFFICE, HAS SOME SUCCESS.
- 00:15:57.525 --> 00:15:58.226
- HAS SOME SUCCESS. IF YOU WANT TO STUDY
- 00:15:58.292 --> 00:16:00.228
- IF YOU WANT TO STUDY LINCOLN, EVERY SPEECH IS
- 00:16:00.294 --> 00:16:01.429
- LINCOLN, EVERY SPEECH IS WRITTEN EXCEPT FOR THE
- 00:16:01.496 --> 00:16:03.364
- WRITTEN EXCEPT FOR THE "LOST SPEECH,"
- 00:16:03.431 --> 00:16:04.232
- "LOST SPEECH," WHICH THEY FOUND A
- 00:16:04.298 --> 00:16:05.033
- WHICH THEY FOUND A TRANSCRIPT OF THE
- 00:16:05.099 --> 00:16:05.933
- TRANSCRIPT OF THE "LOST SPEECH," SO EVEN
- 00:16:06.000 --> 00:16:07.568
- "LOST SPEECH," SO EVEN THAT'S THERE.
- 00:16:07.635 --> 00:16:08.569
- THAT'S THERE. YOU SEE HOW THIS MAN
- 00:16:08.636 --> 00:16:09.037
- YOU SEE HOW THIS MAN EVOLVES AND HOW HE THINKS.
- 00:16:09.103 --> 00:16:10.071
- EVOLVES AND HOW HE THINKS. AND TO FAST-FORWARD QUICK,
- 00:16:10.138 --> 00:16:13.274
- AND TO FAST-FORWARD QUICK, DOUGLASS HAS A NEWSPAPER.
- 00:16:13.341 --> 00:16:13.841
- DOUGLASS HAS A NEWSPAPER. SO WHAT MADE THIS
- 00:16:13.908 --> 00:16:15.076
- SO WHAT MADE THIS INTERESTING TO STUDY IS I
- 00:16:15.143 --> 00:16:16.744
- INTERESTING TO STUDY IS I READ DOUGLASS'
- 00:16:16.811 --> 00:16:18.279
- READ DOUGLASS' "NORTH STAR," AND YOU COULD
- 00:16:18.346 --> 00:16:20.181
- "NORTH STAR," AND YOU COULD READ WHAT HE SAID IN
- 00:16:20.248 --> 00:16:21.382
- READ WHAT HE SAID IN "THE LIBERATOR," UNDER
- 00:16:21.449 --> 00:16:23.317
- "THE LIBERATOR," UNDER WILLIAM LLOYD GARRISON,
- 00:16:23.384 --> 00:16:24.552
- WILLIAM LLOYD GARRISON, AND IT'S NOT "BRIAN KILMEADE
- 00:16:24.619 --> 00:16:25.820
- AND IT'S NOT "BRIAN KILMEADE INTERPRETED--"
- 00:16:25.887 --> 00:16:26.554
- INTERPRETED--" NO, NO.
- 00:16:26.621 --> 00:16:27.188
- NO, NO. READ HIS WORDS, AND I'LL
- 00:16:27.255 --> 00:16:27.855
- READ HIS WORDS, AND I'LL PUT THE QUOTES IN.
- 00:16:27.922 --> 00:16:29.090
- PUT THE QUOTES IN. READ WHAT HE SAID, AND
- 00:16:29.157 --> 00:16:30.024
- READ WHAT HE SAID, AND DON'T TELL ME ANY DIFFERENT.
- 00:16:30.091 --> 00:16:31.959
- DON'T TELL ME ANY DIFFERENT. NOW, LINCOLN SAYS
- 00:16:32.026 --> 00:16:32.427
- NOW, LINCOLN SAYS SOME STUFF THAT WE'LL
- 00:16:32.493 --> 00:16:33.594
- SOME STUFF THAT WE'LL FIND RACIALLY MORE THAN
- 00:16:33.661 --> 00:16:34.562
- FIND RACIALLY MORE THAN INSENSITIVE: "I BELIEVE
- 00:16:34.629 --> 00:16:35.997
- INSENSITIVE: "I BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE LIBERTY.
- 00:16:36.064 --> 00:16:37.131
- EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE LIBERTY. I BELIEVE SLAVERY IS
- 00:16:37.198 --> 00:16:38.166
- I BELIEVE SLAVERY IS WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK
- 00:16:38.232 --> 00:16:38.833
- WRONG, BUT I DON'T THINK BLACKS AND WHITES ARE
- 00:16:38.900 --> 00:16:40.001
- BLACKS AND WHITES ARE EQUAL."
- 00:16:40.068 --> 00:16:40.468
- EQUAL." REALLY?
- 00:16:40.535 --> 00:16:41.536
- REALLY? WELL, THAT'S-- HE'S A
- 00:16:41.602 --> 00:16:42.804
- WELL, THAT'S-- HE'S A PERSON OF HIS TIMES.
- 00:16:42.870 --> 00:16:43.304
- PERSON OF HIS TIMES. HE WOULD EVOLVE.
- 00:16:43.371 --> 00:16:44.439
- HE WOULD EVOLVE. BY THE TIME HE'S DONE,
- 00:16:44.505 --> 00:16:46.340
- BY THE TIME HE'S DONE, FREDERICK DOUGLASS,
- 00:16:46.407 --> 00:16:47.241
- FREDERICK DOUGLASS, THE MINUTE HE SEES HIM,
- 00:16:47.308 --> 00:16:48.176
- THE MINUTE HE SEES HIM, ALL THOSE STATEMENTS THAT MADE
- 00:16:48.242 --> 00:16:49.510
- ALL THOSE STATEMENTS THAT MADE HIS HAIR CURL, WOULD MELT
- 00:16:49.577 --> 00:16:51.813
- HIS HAIR CURL, WOULD MELT AWAY WHEN HE SAW THIS MAN,
- 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:52.547
- AWAY WHEN HE SAW THIS MAN, WHO'S SITTING THERE IN THE
- 00:16:52.613 --> 00:16:53.314
- WHO'S SITTING THERE IN THE WHITE HOUSE, WHEN HE GOES
- 00:16:53.381 --> 00:16:54.816
- WHITE HOUSE, WHEN HE GOES TO SEE HIM, TOO BIG FOR
- 00:16:54.882 --> 00:16:56.017
- TO SEE HIM, TOO BIG FOR HIS CHAIR, SPRAWLED OUT IN
- 00:16:56.084 --> 00:16:57.852
- HIS CHAIR, SPRAWLED OUT IN A RUMPLED SUIT, AND ALL HE
- 00:16:57.919 --> 00:16:59.153
- A RUMPLED SUIT, AND ALL HE SAW WAS HONESTY AND
- 00:16:59.220 --> 00:17:00.788
- SAW WAS HONESTY AND INTEGRITY, AND THEY
- 00:17:00.855 --> 00:17:02.824
- INTEGRITY, AND THEY ENGAGED IN A CONVERSATION,
- 00:17:02.890 --> 00:17:05.093
- ENGAGED IN A CONVERSATION, AND HE REALIZED HE WAS
- 00:17:05.159 --> 00:17:06.294
- AND HE REALIZED HE WAS DEALING WITH A GREAT MAN
- 00:17:06.360 --> 00:17:07.829
- DEALING WITH A GREAT MAN AND THAT THEY COULD WORK
- 00:17:07.895 --> 00:17:08.830
- AND THAT THEY COULD WORK TOGETHER.
- 00:17:08.896 --> 00:17:10.098
- TOGETHER. - ERIC: SO THEY DIDN'T
- 00:17:10.164 --> 00:17:10.631
- - ERIC: SO THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY MEET-MEET UNTIL
- 00:17:10.698 --> 00:17:12.133
- ACTUALLY MEET-MEET UNTIL LINCOLN WAS PRESIDENT.
- 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:13.034
- LINCOLN WAS PRESIDENT. - BRIAN: TILL LINCOLN'S
- 00:17:13.101 --> 00:17:13.868
- - BRIAN: TILL LINCOLN'S PRESIDENT.
- 00:17:13.935 --> 00:17:16.237
- PRESIDENT. AND LINCOLN NEVER WROTE
- 00:17:16.304 --> 00:17:18.072
- AND LINCOLN NEVER WROTE ABOUT DOUGLASS, BUT IT WAS
- 00:17:18.139 --> 00:17:18.840
- ABOUT DOUGLASS, BUT IT WAS CLEARLY-- EVERYBODY WAS
- 00:17:18.906 --> 00:17:20.074
- CLEARLY-- EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF DOUGLASS, ONE OF
- 00:17:20.141 --> 00:17:21.275
- AWARE OF DOUGLASS, ONE OF THE MOST FAMOUS MEN IN THE
- 00:17:21.342 --> 00:17:21.843
- THE MOST FAMOUS MEN IN THE WORLD.
- 00:17:21.909 --> 00:17:23.511
- WORLD. - ERIC: YEAH, NO QUESTION
- 00:17:23.578 --> 00:17:24.112
- - ERIC: YEAH, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
- 00:17:24.178 --> 00:17:25.546
- ABOUT IT. SO DOUGLASS WAS-- YOU CALL
- 00:17:25.613 --> 00:17:26.414
- SO DOUGLASS WAS-- YOU CALL HIM A "FREEDOM FIGHTER"
- 00:17:26.481 --> 00:17:27.115
- HIM A "FREEDOM FIGHTER" BECAUSE THE BOOK,
- 00:17:27.181 --> 00:17:28.015
- BECAUSE THE BOOK, THE TITLE OF THE BOOK IS
- 00:17:28.082 --> 00:17:28.616
- THE TITLE OF THE BOOK IS "THE PRESIDENT AND THE
- 00:17:28.683 --> 00:17:29.350
- "THE PRESIDENT AND THE FREEDOM FIGHTER."
- 00:17:29.417 --> 00:17:30.251
- FREEDOM FIGHTER." SO WHAT DID HE
- 00:17:30.318 --> 00:17:31.119
- SO WHAT DID HE THINK OF AS HIS ROLE
- 00:17:31.185 --> 00:17:32.753
- THINK OF AS HIS ROLE DURING THE WAR?
- 00:17:32.820 --> 00:17:33.688
- DURING THE WAR? 'CAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THEY
- 00:17:33.754 --> 00:17:34.188
- 'CAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THEY WERE FRIENDS DURING THE WAR.
- 00:17:34.255 --> 00:17:36.023
- WERE FRIENDS DURING THE WAR. THEY DIDN'T MEET BEFORE
- 00:17:36.090 --> 00:17:36.891
- THEY DIDN'T MEET BEFORE THE WAR.
- 00:17:36.958 --> 00:17:39.494
- THE WAR. WHAT DID HE FEEL THAT HE
- 00:17:39.560 --> 00:17:40.027
- WHAT DID HE FEEL THAT HE WAS ABLE TO DO?
- 00:17:40.094 --> 00:17:41.629
- WAS ABLE TO DO? WAS HE ONE OF THOSE
- 00:17:41.696 --> 00:17:42.096
- WAS HE ONE OF THOSE ENCOURAGING LINCOLN TO
- 00:17:42.163 --> 00:17:43.331
- ENCOURAGING LINCOLN TO WRITE THE EMANCIPATION
- 00:17:43.397 --> 00:17:44.465
- WRITE THE EMANCIPATION PROCLAMATION, FOR EXAMPLE?
- 00:17:44.532 --> 00:17:46.367
- PROCLAMATION, FOR EXAMPLE? - BRIAN: YES, I LOVE THAT
- 00:17:46.434 --> 00:17:47.135
- - BRIAN: YES, I LOVE THAT QUESTION.
- 00:17:47.201 --> 00:17:48.269
- QUESTION. SO WHAT HE THOUGHT FOR THE
- 00:17:48.336 --> 00:17:48.970
- SO WHAT HE THOUGHT FOR THE WAR IS-- IT'S LIKE SAYIN',
- 00:17:49.036 --> 00:17:50.471
- WAR IS-- IT'S LIKE SAYIN', "HEY, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU
- 00:17:50.538 --> 00:17:51.439
- "HEY, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A GIFT," AND THEN I'M
- 00:17:51.506 --> 00:17:52.673
- A GIFT," AND THEN I'M SAYING, "I WANT MORE,
- 00:17:52.740 --> 00:17:54.675
- SAYING, "I WANT MORE, I WANT ONE BIGGER,
- 00:17:54.742 --> 00:17:55.710
- I WANT ONE BIGGER, AND I WANT IT FASTER."
- 00:17:55.776 --> 00:17:56.210
- AND I WANT IT FASTER." SO HE'S SAYIN',
- 00:17:56.277 --> 00:17:56.711
- SO HE'S SAYIN', "OKAY, YOU KNOW,
- 00:17:56.777 --> 00:17:57.445
- "OKAY, YOU KNOW, YOU RAN.
- 00:17:57.512 --> 00:17:57.979
- YOU RAN. YOU SAID THAT SLAVE STATES
- 00:17:58.045 --> 00:18:00.948
- YOU SAID THAT SLAVE STATES CAN'T EXIST; TWO COUNTRIES
- 00:18:01.015 --> 00:18:01.482
- CAN'T EXIST; TWO COUNTRIES CAN'T EXIST.
- 00:18:01.549 --> 00:18:02.617
- CAN'T EXIST. YOU WANTED TO GET--
- 00:18:02.683 --> 00:18:03.084
- YOU WANTED TO GET-- YOU WATCHED SEVEN STATES LEAVE
- 00:18:03.151 --> 00:18:04.051
- YOU WATCHED SEVEN STATES LEAVE BEFORE YOU GOT THERE.
- 00:18:04.118 --> 00:18:04.886
- BEFORE YOU GOT THERE. YOU GOT NO, LITERALLY,
- 00:18:04.952 --> 00:18:05.720
- YOU GOT NO, LITERALLY, NO VOTES IN THE SOUTH."
- 00:18:05.786 --> 00:18:06.554
- NO VOTES IN THE SOUTH." FORTY PERCENT OF THE
- 00:18:06.621 --> 00:18:07.889
- FORTY PERCENT OF THE COUNTRY VOTED FOR HIM.
- 00:18:07.955 --> 00:18:08.756
- COUNTRY VOTED FOR HIM. THE REST DIDN'T.
- 00:18:08.823 --> 00:18:10.158
- THE REST DIDN'T. STEPHEN DOUGLAS WAS
- 00:18:10.224 --> 00:18:11.959
- STEPHEN DOUGLAS WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN, BUT THE
- 00:18:12.026 --> 00:18:13.461
- SUPPOSED TO WIN, BUT THE DEMOCRATIC VOTE GOT
- 00:18:13.528 --> 00:18:14.862
- DEMOCRATIC VOTE GOT DIVIDED, AND THIS
- 00:18:14.929 --> 00:18:16.030
- DIVIDED, AND THIS ONE-TIME, THIS ONE-TIME
- 00:18:16.097 --> 00:18:16.998
- ONE-TIME, THIS ONE-TIME CONGRESSMAN BECOMES PRESIDENT.
- 00:18:17.064 --> 00:18:18.166
- CONGRESSMAN BECOMES PRESIDENT. OBVIOUSLY, THE PERFECT MAN
- 00:18:18.232 --> 00:18:20.268
- OBVIOUSLY, THE PERFECT MAN AT THE PERFECT TIME,
- 00:18:20.334 --> 00:18:20.935
- AT THE PERFECT TIME, BUT THIS IS WHAT DROVE
- 00:18:21.002 --> 00:18:21.435
- BUT THIS IS WHAT DROVE DOUGLASS CRAZY.
- 00:18:21.502 --> 00:18:22.270
- DOUGLASS CRAZY. SO THE FIRST THING HE SAYS IS
- 00:18:22.336 --> 00:18:22.904
- SO THE FIRST THING HE SAYS IS "I NEED THE SEVEN STATES
- 00:18:22.970 --> 00:18:25.039
- "I NEED THE SEVEN STATES BACK, SO I GOTTA DO AN
- 00:18:25.106 --> 00:18:25.673
- BACK, SO I GOTTA DO AN INAUGURAL, AND TO GET
- 00:18:25.740 --> 00:18:27.475
- INAUGURAL, AND TO GET THEM BACK, I AM GOING TO SAY,
- 00:18:27.542 --> 00:18:28.843
- THEM BACK, I AM GOING TO SAY, 'HEY, GUYS, KEEP YOUR SLAVES.
- 00:18:28.910 --> 00:18:30.011
- 'HEY, GUYS, KEEP YOUR SLAVES. I'LL MAKE IT THE
- 00:18:30.077 --> 00:18:31.312
- I'LL MAKE IT THE THIRTEENTH AMENDMENT YOU
- 00:18:31.379 --> 00:18:32.613
- THIRTEENTH AMENDMENT YOU CAN KEEP YOUR SLAVES.
- 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:33.548
- CAN KEEP YOUR SLAVES. WE JUST GOTTA GET THE
- 00:18:33.614 --> 00:18:34.048
- WE JUST GOTTA GET THE COUNTRY BACK TOGETHER.'"
- 00:18:34.115 --> 00:18:35.082
- COUNTRY BACK TOGETHER.'" NOW, DOUGLASS FEELS LIKE
- 00:18:35.149 --> 00:18:36.150
- NOW, DOUGLASS FEELS LIKE HE'S BEEN DECEIVED.
- 00:18:36.217 --> 00:18:37.852
- HE'S BEEN DECEIVED. "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
- 00:18:37.919 --> 00:18:39.253
- "ARE YOU KIDDING ME? WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT
- 00:18:39.320 --> 00:18:41.689
- WHAT ARE YOU TALKIN' ABOUT WITH THE ACQUIESCING TO
- 00:18:41.756 --> 00:18:42.456
- WITH THE ACQUIESCING TO THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR?
- 00:18:42.523 --> 00:18:43.758
- YOU KNOW IT'S
- 00:18:44.392 --> 00:18:44.792
- YOU KNOW IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.
- 00:18:44.859 --> 00:18:45.293
- UNACCEPTABLE. YOU RAN THAT IT'S
- 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:45.726
- YOU RAN THAT IT'S UNACCEPTABLE," ALTHOUGH HE
- 00:18:45.793 --> 00:18:46.294
- UNACCEPTABLE," ALTHOUGH HE WAS NEVER AN ABOLITIONIST.
- 00:18:46.360 --> 00:18:47.862
- WAS NEVER AN ABOLITIONIST. "YOU KNEW IT WAS UNACCEPTABLE,
- 00:18:47.929 --> 00:18:48.496
- "YOU KNEW IT WAS UNACCEPTABLE, BUT YOU DO IT."
- 00:18:48.563 --> 00:18:49.530
- BUT YOU DO IT." AND THEN, LATER, TO
- 00:18:49.597 --> 00:18:50.231
- AND THEN, LATER, TO FAST-FORWARD,
- 00:18:50.298 --> 00:18:51.632
- WHEN IT'S TIME TO DEDICATE
- 00:18:52.500 --> 00:18:53.000
- WHEN IT'S TIME TO DEDICATE THE STATUE, AFTER
- 00:18:53.067 --> 00:18:53.568
- THE STATUE, AFTER LINCOLN'S ASSASSINATION,
- 00:18:53.634 --> 00:18:54.502
- LINCOLN'S ASSASSINATION, TEN YEARS LATER, WITH A
- 00:18:54.569 --> 00:18:55.102
- TEN YEARS LATER, WITH A STATUE THAT WAS RAISED BY
- 00:18:55.169 --> 00:18:56.170
- STATUE THAT WAS RAISED BY FREED SLAVES FOR HIM,
- 00:18:56.237 --> 00:18:59.273
- FREED SLAVES FOR HIM, IT IS DOUGLASS THAT'S ASKED
- 00:18:59.340 --> 00:19:01.576
- IT IS DOUGLASS THAT'S ASKED TO GIVE THE SPEECH, NOT
- 00:19:01.642 --> 00:19:02.343
- TO GIVE THE SPEECH, NOT THE SITTING PRESIDENT,
- 00:19:02.410 --> 00:19:03.211
- THE SITTING PRESIDENT, ULYSSES S. GRANT.
- 00:19:03.277 --> 00:19:04.078
- ULYSSES S. GRANT. IN THAT SPEECH, HE TALKED
- 00:19:04.145 --> 00:19:04.645
- IN THAT SPEECH, HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID,
- 00:19:04.712 --> 00:19:06.214
- ABOUT WHAT I JUST SAID, BUT HE ALSO SAID, AND WITH
- 00:19:06.280 --> 00:19:07.515
- BUT HE ALSO SAID, AND WITH BEING AS A STATESMAN, HE
- 00:19:07.582 --> 00:19:09.217
- BEING AS A STATESMAN, HE WAS NOT SLOW.
- 00:19:09.283 --> 00:19:10.785
- WAS NOT SLOW. HE WAS QUICK, HE WAS
- 00:19:10.851 --> 00:19:12.019
- HE WAS QUICK, HE WAS DIRECT, AND HE WAS DRIVEN
- 00:19:12.086 --> 00:19:14.188
- DIRECT, AND HE WAS DRIVEN TO FREEING THE SLAVES
- 00:19:14.255 --> 00:19:15.823
- TO FREEING THE SLAVES BECAUSE HE HAD A COUNTRY
- 00:19:15.890 --> 00:19:17.325
- BECAUSE HE HAD A COUNTRY TO KEEP TOGETHER.
- 00:19:17.391 --> 00:19:18.726
- TO KEEP TOGETHER. HE DIDN'T HAVE A MISSION.
- 00:19:18.793 --> 00:19:19.760
- HE DIDN'T HAVE A MISSION. HE HAD A COUNTRY WAS HIS
- 00:19:19.827 --> 00:19:21.162
- HE HAD A COUNTRY WAS HIS MISSION.
- 00:19:21.229 --> 00:19:22.897
- MISSION. - ERIC: THIS IS THE TRICK.
- 00:19:22.964 --> 00:19:24.198
- - ERIC: THIS IS THE TRICK. THIS IS WHAT IT IS TO BE A
- 00:19:24.265 --> 00:19:24.765
- THIS IS WHAT IT IS TO BE A LEADER, AND IT'S AMAZING.
- 00:19:24.832 --> 00:19:27.001
- LEADER, AND IT'S AMAZING. OKAY, YOU SAY THAT THESE
- 00:19:27.068 --> 00:19:28.636
- OKAY, YOU SAY THAT THESE TWO FIGURES, EVEN THOUGH
- 00:19:28.703 --> 00:19:29.170
- TWO FIGURES, EVEN THOUGH THEY INTERACTED
- 00:19:29.237 --> 00:19:29.804
- THEY INTERACTED DRAMATICALLY OVER THE
- 00:19:29.870 --> 00:19:30.705
- DRAMATICALLY OVER THE YEARS, THEY ONLY ACTUALLY
- 00:19:30.771 --> 00:19:31.672
- YEARS, THEY ONLY ACTUALLY MET IN PERSON THREE TIMES.
- 00:19:31.739 --> 00:19:33.207
- MET IN PERSON THREE TIMES. - BRIAN: SUPPOSED TO BE
- 00:19:33.274 --> 00:19:34.108
- - BRIAN: SUPPOSED TO BE FOUR, BUT EVIDENTLY,
- 00:19:34.175 --> 00:19:35.176
- FOUR, BUT EVIDENTLY, DOUGLASS HAD A SPEECH.
- 00:19:35.243 --> 00:19:36.577
- DOUGLASS HAD A SPEECH. COULDN'T MAKE IT.
- 00:19:36.644 --> 00:19:37.445
- COULDN'T MAKE IT. SO WE DID A SHOW,
- 00:19:37.511 --> 00:19:39.247
- SO WE DID A SHOW, AN HOUR SHOW.
- 00:19:39.313 --> 00:19:39.914
- AN HOUR SHOW. FOX WAS KIND ENOUGH TO PUT
- 00:19:39.981 --> 00:19:41.148
- FOX WAS KIND ENOUGH TO PUT IT ON 10 O'CLOCK ON
- 00:19:41.215 --> 00:19:42.883
- IT ON 10 O'CLOCK ON NOVEMBER 7, AND IT'S NOW
- 00:19:42.950 --> 00:19:44.252
- NOVEMBER 7, AND IT'S NOW ON FOX NATION.
- 00:19:44.318 --> 00:19:45.086
- ON FOX NATION. SO, OVER THE LAST FOUR
- 00:19:45.152 --> 00:19:45.886
- SO, OVER THE LAST FOUR MONTHS, IT WAS TOUGH WITH
- 00:19:45.953 --> 00:19:47.021
- MONTHS, IT WAS TOUGH WITH THE PANDEMIC 'CAUSE A LOT
- 00:19:47.088 --> 00:19:48.122
- THE PANDEMIC 'CAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE-- EVERYTHING'S
- 00:19:48.189 --> 00:19:48.856
- OF PEOPLE-- EVERYTHING'S CLOSED, BUT I WENT TO
- 00:19:48.923 --> 00:19:49.790
- CLOSED, BUT I WENT TO ROCHESTER.
- 00:19:49.857 --> 00:19:50.391
- ROCHESTER. I WENT TO INDIANA, WHERE
- 00:19:50.458 --> 00:19:50.925
- I WENT TO INDIANA, WHERE HE SPENT-- LINCOLN SPENT
- 00:19:50.992 --> 00:19:51.926
- HE SPENT-- LINCOLN SPENT THE BULK OF HIS CHILDHOOD.
- 00:19:51.993 --> 00:19:53.261
- THE BULK OF HIS CHILDHOOD. OBVIOUSLY WENT TO
- 00:19:53.327 --> 00:19:54.495
- OBVIOUSLY WENT TO WASHINGTON.
- 00:19:54.562 --> 00:19:55.096
- WASHINGTON. ONE OF THE PLACES I WENT
- 00:19:55.162 --> 00:19:55.863
- ONE OF THE PLACES I WENT TO IS THE WHITE HOUSE,
- 00:19:55.930 --> 00:19:56.364
- TO IS THE WHITE HOUSE, WHERE FREDERICK DOUGLASS
- 00:19:56.430 --> 00:19:58.132
- WHERE FREDERICK DOUGLASS DECIDED, "I AM GOING TO
- 00:19:58.199 --> 00:19:58.633
- DECIDED, "I AM GOING TO MEET ABRAHAM LINCOLN,"
- 00:19:58.699 --> 00:19:59.934
- MEET ABRAHAM LINCOLN," WE'RE AT THE POINT IN THE
- 00:20:00.001 --> 00:20:01.736
- WE'RE AT THE POINT IN THE WAR WHERE THE SOUTH
- 00:20:01.802 --> 00:20:02.803
- WAR WHERE THE SOUTH WAS DOING EXTREMELY WELL,
- 00:20:02.870 --> 00:20:03.938
- WAS DOING EXTREMELY WELL, AND IT WAS AT THE POINT OF
- 00:20:04.005 --> 00:20:05.072
- AND IT WAS AT THE POINT OF THE WAR WHERE LINCOLN
- 00:20:05.139 --> 00:20:05.873
- THE WAR WHERE LINCOLN COULDN'T AFFORD ANYMORE TO
- 00:20:05.940 --> 00:20:08.009
- COULDN'T AFFORD ANYMORE TO FIGHT FOR THEIR OWN
- 00:20:08.075 --> 00:20:10.811
- FIGHT FOR THEIR OWN FREEDOM.
- 00:20:10.878 --> 00:20:12.280
- FREEDOM. AND HE SAID, SEWARD SAID,
- 00:20:12.346 --> 00:20:13.147
- AND HE SAID, SEWARD SAID, "BEEN PUSHIN' HIM TO DO IT,"
- 00:20:13.214 --> 00:20:13.948
- "BEEN PUSHIN' HIM TO DO IT," SECRETARY OF STATE,
- 00:20:14.015 --> 00:20:14.882
- SECRETARY OF STATE, AND HE SAID,
- 00:20:14.949 --> 00:20:15.316
- AND HE SAID, "MR. PRESIDENT, DON'T DO IT
- 00:20:15.383 --> 00:20:16.350
- "MR. PRESIDENT, DON'T DO IT NOW.
- 00:20:16.417 --> 00:20:16.784
- NOW. DO IT AFTER A BIG WIN."
- 00:20:16.851 --> 00:20:19.186
- DO IT AFTER A BIG WIN." AND ANTIETAM, AS BLOODY AS
- 00:20:19.253 --> 00:20:20.221
- AND ANTIETAM, AS BLOODY AS IT WAS, WAS A WIN,
- 00:20:20.288 --> 00:20:20.788
- IT WAS, WAS A WIN, AND DOUGLASS KNOWS,
- 00:20:20.855 --> 00:20:22.556
- AND DOUGLASS KNOWS, AND HE GOES TO VISIT HIM,
- 00:20:22.623 --> 00:20:23.257
- AND HE GOES TO VISIT HIM, AND HE'S ABOUT TO DO IT,
- 00:20:23.324 --> 00:20:24.258
- AND HE'S ABOUT TO DO IT, AND HE LET BLACKS--
- 00:20:24.325 --> 00:20:25.826
- AND HE LET BLACKS-- AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE
- 00:20:25.893 --> 00:20:27.094
- AFRICAN-AMERICANS ARE FIGHTING, AND THEY FORMED
- 00:20:27.161 --> 00:20:27.995
- FIGHTING, AND THEY FORMED THE 54TH MASSACHUSETTS
- 00:20:28.062 --> 00:20:28.796
- THE 54TH MASSACHUSETTS INFANTRY, WHICH IS FAMOUS
- 00:20:28.863 --> 00:20:31.565
- INFANTRY, WHICH IS FAMOUS - ERIC: THE MOVIE "GLORY."
- 00:20:31.632 --> 00:20:32.366
- - ERIC: THE MOVIE "GLORY." - BRIAN: AND, BY THE WAY,
- 00:20:32.433 --> 00:20:33.034
- - BRIAN: AND, BY THE WAY, DO YOU KNOW WHO FOUGHT IN
- 00:20:33.100 --> 00:20:33.601
- DO YOU KNOW WHO FOUGHT IN THERE?
- 00:20:33.668 --> 00:20:34.235
- THERE? TWO OF DOUGLASS' SONS, SO
- 00:20:34.302 --> 00:20:35.536
- TWO OF DOUGLASS' SONS, SO HE WASN'T ASKING-- WHILE
- 00:20:35.603 --> 00:20:36.103
- HE WASN'T ASKING-- WHILE HE RECRUITS, HE IS NOT
- 00:20:36.170 --> 00:20:37.204
- HE RECRUITS, HE IS NOT ASKING ANYONE TO DO WHAT
- 00:20:37.271 --> 00:20:38.673
- ASKING ANYONE TO DO WHAT HIS SONS AREN'T DOING.
- 00:20:38.739 --> 00:20:39.740
- HIS SONS AREN'T DOING. BOTH HIS SONS IN THAT
- 00:20:39.807 --> 00:20:40.574
- BOTH HIS SONS IN THAT UNIT, ONE GOT WOUNDED.
- 00:20:40.641 --> 00:20:42.310
- UNIT, ONE GOT WOUNDED. SO HE GOES TO SEE LINCOLN,
- 00:20:42.376 --> 00:20:43.644
- SO HE GOES TO SEE LINCOLN, AND HE DOESN'T KNOW
- 00:20:43.711 --> 00:20:44.278
- AND HE DOESN'T KNOW ABE LINCOLN.
- 00:20:44.345 --> 00:20:45.680
- ABE LINCOLN. HE KNOWS HE'S BEEN
- 00:20:45.746 --> 00:20:46.113
- HE KNOWS HE'S BEEN CRITICAL OF LINCOLN.
- 00:20:46.180 --> 00:20:47.348
- CRITICAL OF LINCOLN. SO THEY SAY, "GO DOWN THERE."
- 00:20:47.415 --> 00:20:48.249
- SO THEY SAY, "GO DOWN THERE." HE SEES THE
- 00:20:48.316 --> 00:20:49.850
- HE SEES THE SECRETARY OF WAR.
- 00:20:49.917 --> 00:20:50.418
- SECRETARY OF WAR. IT WENT WELL.
- 00:20:50.484 --> 00:20:50.951
- IT WENT WELL. HE SAID, "LISTEN, IF YOU COULD
- 00:20:51.018 --> 00:20:51.585
- HE SAID, "LISTEN, IF YOU COULD RECRUIT FOR ME, I'D LOVE
- 00:20:51.652 --> 00:20:53.354
- RECRUIT FOR ME, I'D LOVE IT, AND IF YOU WANNA BE AN
- 00:20:53.421 --> 00:20:54.555
- IT, AND IF YOU WANNA BE AN OFFICER, I'LL DO IT."
- 00:20:54.622 --> 00:20:55.256
- OFFICER, I'LL DO IT." AND HE PUTS A FORM OUT.
- 00:20:55.323 --> 00:20:56.490
- AND HE PUTS A FORM OUT. HE GOES, "I WANNA MAKE
- 00:20:56.557 --> 00:20:57.625
- HE GOES, "I WANNA MAKE THIS GUY AN OFFICER."
- 00:20:57.692 --> 00:20:58.125
- THIS GUY AN OFFICER." HE GOES, "I'M GOING TO GO SEE
- 00:20:58.192 --> 00:20:59.060
- HE GOES, "I'M GOING TO GO SEE THE PRESIDENT NOW."
- 00:20:59.126 --> 00:20:59.493
- THE PRESIDENT NOW." HE GOES, "GOOD.
- 00:20:59.560 --> 00:21:00.027
- HE GOES, "GOOD. TELL HIM WE MET."
- 00:21:00.094 --> 00:21:00.895
- TELL HIM WE MET." SO HE LINES UP.
- 00:21:00.961 --> 00:21:01.395
- SO HE LINES UP. SO, ERIC, YOU COULD LINE
- 00:21:01.462 --> 00:21:03.197
- SO, ERIC, YOU COULD LINE UP OUTSIDE THE WHITE
- 00:21:03.264 --> 00:21:03.798
- UP OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE, IN THE MIDDLE OF
- 00:21:03.864 --> 00:21:04.799
- HOUSE, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CIVIL WAR WITH THE
- 00:21:04.865 --> 00:21:05.533
- THE CIVIL WAR WITH THE ENEMY 20 MILES AWAY, WITH
- 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:06.667
- ENEMY 20 MILES AWAY, WITH NO GUARDS, AND YOU WAIT.
- 00:21:06.734 --> 00:21:09.437
- NO GUARDS, AND YOU WAIT. SO YOU WAIT.
- 00:21:09.503 --> 00:21:10.004
- SO YOU WAIT. HE WAITED ALL OF FIVE
- 00:21:10.071 --> 00:21:10.504
- HE WAITED ALL OF FIVE MINUTES.
- 00:21:10.571 --> 00:21:10.971
- MINUTES. THEY GO, "EXCUSE ME, SIR,
- 00:21:11.038 --> 00:21:11.539
- THEY GO, "EXCUSE ME, SIR, WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO?"
- 00:21:11.605 --> 00:21:12.039
- WHAT DO YOU WANNA DO?" "I'M FREDERICK DOUGLASS."
- 00:21:12.106 --> 00:21:12.606
- "I'M FREDERICK DOUGLASS." "YOU HAVE A CARD?"
- 00:21:12.673 --> 00:21:13.040
- "YOU HAVE A CARD?" "HERE'S YOUR CARD."
- 00:21:13.107 --> 00:21:13.507
- "HERE'S YOUR CARD." FIVE MINUTES, HE SENDS FOR
- 00:21:13.574 --> 00:21:14.308
- FIVE MINUTES, HE SENDS FOR DOUGLASS.
- 00:21:14.375 --> 00:21:15.376
- DOUGLASS. HE WALKS PAST SITTING
- 00:21:15.443 --> 00:21:16.610
- HE WALKS PAST SITTING CONGRESSMEN,
- 00:21:16.677 --> 00:21:17.978
- HE WALKS PAST THE RICHEST
- 00:21:18.612 --> 00:21:19.113
- HE WALKS PAST THE RICHEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD,
- 00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:19.980
- PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, SITTING SENATORS,
- 00:21:20.047 --> 00:21:20.781
- SITTING SENATORS, AND HE GOES,
- 00:21:20.848 --> 00:21:23.351
- AND HE GOES, "FREDERICK DOUGLASS."
- 00:21:23.417 --> 00:21:24.051
- "FREDERICK DOUGLASS." AND AS SOON AS
- 00:21:24.118 --> 00:21:26.754
- AND AS SOON AS HE LOOKED ACROSS THE WAY,
- 00:21:26.821 --> 00:21:27.521
- HE LOOKED ACROSS THE WAY, HE SAW ALL THE PROBLEMS HE
- 00:21:27.588 --> 00:21:28.889
- HE SAW ALL THE PROBLEMS HE HAD WITH LINCOLN MELT AWAY,
- 00:21:28.956 --> 00:21:30.024
- NOT THAT HE WAS IN AWE OF
- 00:21:30.691 --> 00:21:31.425
- NOT THAT HE WAS IN AWE OF HIM.
- 00:21:31.492 --> 00:21:31.826
- HIM. HE SAID, "THERE WAS
- 00:21:31.892 --> 00:21:32.893
- HE SAID, "THERE WAS SOMETHING PURE ABOUT HIM,"
- 00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:33.461
- SOMETHING PURE ABOUT HIM," AND HE-- ONE OF THE
- 00:21:33.527 --> 00:21:33.961
- AND HE-- ONE OF THE THINGS, IF I COULD
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- THINGS, IF I COULD PARAPHRASE, HE SAYS,
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- PARAPHRASE, HE SAYS, "I REALIZED I WAS LOOKING AT
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- "I REALIZED I WAS LOOKING AT A MAN THAT TRULY EMBODIED
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- A MAN THAT TRULY EMBODIED THE PHRASE, 'HONEST ABE.'"
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- THE PHRASE, 'HONEST ABE.'" - ERIC:
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- - ERIC: [GRUNTS]
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- [GRUNTS] - BRIAN: AND THEY SIT
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- - BRIAN: AND THEY SIT THERE AND TALK BUT NOT
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- THERE AND TALK BUT NOT PLATITUDES.
- 00:21:41.569 --> 00:21:42.403
- PLATITUDES. THEY TALK IN SUBSTANCE,
- 00:21:42.470 --> 00:21:43.604
- THEY TALK IN SUBSTANCE, AND HE SAYS, "LISTEN, YOU
- 00:21:43.671 --> 00:21:45.373
- AND HE SAYS, "LISTEN, YOU GOT YOUR BLACK FIGHTERS,
- 00:21:45.439 --> 00:21:46.707
- GOT YOUR BLACK FIGHTERS, BUT YOU'RE NOT PAYIN' THEM
- 00:21:46.774 --> 00:21:48.576
- BUT YOU'RE NOT PAYIN' THEM THE SAME.
- 00:21:48.642 --> 00:21:49.176
- THE SAME. PAY 'EM THE SAME.
- 00:21:49.243 --> 00:21:49.710
- PAY 'EM THE SAME. WHY CAN'T THEY BE OFFICERS?
- 00:21:49.777 --> 00:21:51.178
- WHY CAN'T THEY BE OFFICERS? NUMBER TWO, WHEN THEY'RE
- 00:21:51.245 --> 00:21:51.712
- NUMBER TWO, WHEN THEY'RE CAUGHT BY THE
- 00:21:51.779 --> 00:21:52.213
- CAUGHT BY THE CONFEDERATES, THEY'RE
- 00:21:52.279 --> 00:21:53.013
- CONFEDERATES, THEY'RE BEING BUTCHERED.
- 00:21:53.080 --> 00:21:55.049
- BEING BUTCHERED. THAT'S GOTTA STOP.
- 00:21:55.116 --> 00:21:55.483
- THAT'S GOTTA STOP. WHY DO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT
- 00:21:55.549 --> 00:21:56.183
- WHY DO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT RULES THAN YOUR RULES?
- 00:21:56.250 --> 00:21:56.650
- RULES THAN YOUR RULES? WHY DON'T WE--" HE'S
- 00:21:56.717 --> 00:21:57.518
- WHY DON'T WE--" HE'S LIKE, "FREDERICK, WE'RE
- 00:21:57.585 --> 00:21:58.386
- LIKE, "FREDERICK, WE'RE GONNA GET THERE.
- 00:21:58.452 --> 00:21:59.220
- GONNA GET THERE. WE'RE GONNA DO IT."
- 00:21:59.286 --> 00:21:59.787
- WE'RE GONNA DO IT." THEY HAVE IMAGES OF THE WAR AND
- 00:21:59.854 --> 00:22:00.454
- THEY HAVE IMAGES OF THE WAR AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AFTER
- 00:22:00.521 --> 00:22:01.021
- WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN AFTER THE WAR.
- 00:22:01.088 --> 00:22:01.989
- THE WAR. HE SAID, "FIRST THINGS
- 00:22:02.056 --> 00:22:02.490
- HE SAID, "FIRST THINGS FIRST.
- 00:22:02.556 --> 00:22:02.890
- FIRST. I GOTTA GET REELECTED.
- 00:22:02.957 --> 00:22:03.457
- I GOTTA GET REELECTED. IF I DON'T GET REELECTED,
- 00:22:03.524 --> 00:22:04.024
- IF I DON'T GET REELECTED, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER
- 00:22:04.091 --> 00:22:06.227
- THERE'S NOT ANOTHER CANDIDATE THAT WANTS TO
- 00:22:06.293 --> 00:22:06.761
- CANDIDATE THAT WANTS TO FINISH THIS WAR.
- 00:22:06.827 --> 00:22:07.695
- FINISH THIS WAR. THEY JUST WANNA HAVE A
- 00:22:07.762 --> 00:22:08.195
- THEY JUST WANNA HAVE A PEACE TREATY."
- 00:22:08.262 --> 00:22:09.063
- PEACE TREATY." HE'S GOT IT.
- 00:22:09.130 --> 00:22:09.897
- HE'S GOT IT. SO HE UNDERSTOOD, "I CAN'T
- 00:22:09.964 --> 00:22:11.832
- SO HE UNDERSTOOD, "I CAN'T DO WHAT DOUGLASS WANTS IF
- 00:22:11.899 --> 00:22:12.767
- DO WHAT DOUGLASS WANTS IF I ALIENATE THE REST OF THE
- 00:22:12.833 --> 00:22:13.768
- I ALIENATE THE REST OF THE NORTH WHO MIGHT SEE THINGS
- 00:22:13.834 --> 00:22:14.802
- NORTH WHO MIGHT SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY."
- 00:22:14.869 --> 00:22:16.203
- DIFFERENTLY." - ERIC: THIS IS AGONY.
- 00:22:16.270 --> 00:22:16.904
- - ERIC: THIS IS AGONY. I MEAN, LEADERSHIP OF THIS
- 00:22:16.971 --> 00:22:18.239
- I MEAN, LEADERSHIP OF THIS KIND-- AND BEING A FATHER
- 00:22:18.305 --> 00:22:20.474
- KIND-- AND BEING A FATHER CAN BE THIS WAY-- IT'S
- 00:22:20.541 --> 00:22:22.443
- CAN BE THIS WAY-- IT'S AGONY WHEN YOU THINK THAT
- 00:22:22.510 --> 00:22:23.110
- AGONY WHEN YOU THINK THAT YA HAVE TO MAKE THIS
- 00:22:23.177 --> 00:22:24.412
- YA HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION, KNOWING THAT
- 00:22:24.478 --> 00:22:27.681
- DECISION, KNOWING THAT IT'S GONNA BE THAT PEOPLE
- 00:22:27.748 --> 00:22:28.249
- IT'S GONNA BE THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA SUFFER, BUT IT'S
- 00:22:28.315 --> 00:22:28.883
- ARE GONNA SUFFER, BUT IT'S THE ONLY-- IT'S THE BEST
- 00:22:28.949 --> 00:22:29.950
- THE ONLY-- IT'S THE BEST DECISION, BUT YOU CAN'T DO
- 00:22:30.017 --> 00:22:31.185
- DECISION, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT FLIPPANTLY LIKE,
- 00:22:31.252 --> 00:22:32.153
- IT FLIPPANTLY LIKE, "HEY--" I MEAN, IT ATE AT HIM.
- 00:22:32.219 --> 00:22:34.422
- "HEY--" I MEAN, IT ATE AT HIM. YOU GET THAT IMPRESSION
- 00:22:34.488 --> 00:22:35.189
- YOU GET THAT IMPRESSION THAT HE HAD A REAL SOUL.
- 00:22:35.256 --> 00:22:36.323
- THAT HE HAD A REAL SOUL. BRIAN KILMEADE, CONGRATS
- 00:22:36.390 --> 00:22:37.858
- BRIAN KILMEADE, CONGRATS ON ANOTHER WONDERFUL BOOK
- 00:22:37.925 --> 00:22:41.362
- ON ANOTHER WONDERFUL BOOK AND ON ALL YOU DO.
- 00:22:41.429 --> 00:22:42.830
- AND ON ALL YOU DO. FOLKS, "THE PRESIDENT AND
- 00:22:42.897 --> 00:22:43.397
- FOLKS, "THE PRESIDENT AND THE FREEDOM FIGHTER."
- 00:22:43.464 --> 00:22:45.266
- THE FREEDOM FIGHTER." GRAB A COPY.
- 00:22:45.332 --> 00:22:47.234
- GRAB A COPY. BRIAN, THANK YOU.
- 00:22:47.301 --> 00:22:48.068
- BRIAN, THANK YOU. - BRIAN: THANK YOU VERY
- 00:22:48.135 --> 00:22:48.569
- - BRIAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ERIC.
- 00:22:48.636 --> 00:22:50.304
- MUCH, ERIC. [MUSIC]
- 00:22:50.371 --> 00:22:52.406
- [MUSIC] [POPPING SOUND]
- 00:22:52.473 --> 00:23:00.548
- [POPPING SOUND] ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪
- 00:23:00.614 --> 00:23:01.115
- ♪ WE GONNA TAKE IT ♪ ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
- 00:23:01.182 --> 00:23:02.082
- ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪ ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪
- 00:23:02.149 --> 00:23:02.983
- ♪ GONNA TAKE IT ♪ ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
- 00:23:03.050 --> 00:23:07.421
- ♪ GONNA TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪ ♪ I'M GONNA ♪
- 00:23:07.488 --> 00:23:13.527
- ♪ I'M GONNA ♪ ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
- 00:23:13.594 --> 00:23:14.495
- ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪ ♪ I'M GONNA ♪
- 00:23:14.562 --> 00:23:21.469
- ♪ I'M GONNA ♪ ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪
- 00:23:21.535 --> 00:23:22.336
- ♪ TAKE IT TO THE TOP ♪ ♪ I'M GONNA ♪
- 00:23:22.403 --> 00:23:25.172
- ♪ I'M GONNA ♪ [BEATING SOUND]
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