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ACLJ Expose Forced Abortion Coercion at Taxpayer Funded Hospital

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October 29, 2019
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ACLJ Expose Forced Abortion Coercion at Taxpayer Funded Hospital

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  • [MUSIC]
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  • LIVE FROM WASHINGTON D.C. JAY SEKULOW LIVE.
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  • PHONE LINES ARE OPEN FOR YOUR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW.
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  • [MUSIC]
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  • AND NOW CHIEF COUNSEL
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  • FOR THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND
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  • JUSTICE, JAY SEKULOW!
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  • JAY SEKULOW: HEY, EVERYBODY! WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY
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  • BREAKING NEWS HERE AND THIS IS
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  • REALLY UNPRECEDENTED. THE FIGHT FOR LIFE IS SOMETHING WE TAKE
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  • VERY SERIOUSLY AT THE ACLJ AS YOU KNOW. THIS IS SOMETHING
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  • WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN FOR 40 YEARS, BUT WE'VE HAD SOMETHING
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  • THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED IN OUR HISTORY. WE FILED A COMPLAINT
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  • FOR DISCRIMINATION AGAINST THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT BECAUSE
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  • THEY WERE COMPELLING NURSES, WHO HAD RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS TO
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  • ABORTIONS, AND FORCED THEIR PARTICIPATION. IT WAS FORCED
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  • COERCION IN ABORTION PROCEDURES. AND WE FILED A COMPLAINT WITH,
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  • NOT ONLY WITH THE UNIVERSITY, BUT ALSO WITH THE FEDERAL
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  • GOVERNMENT, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. THIS IS A COPY OF THE
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  • COMPLAINT. I'M HOLDING IT IN MY HANDS RIGHT NOW. WHAT'S REDACTED
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  • IS THE NAME OF THE NURSES. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISCLOSE THAT RIGHT
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  • NOW. BUT I HAVE A BIG, BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, AND THAT IS THE
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  • DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ISSUED AN ORDER IN OUR
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  • FAVOR AGAINST THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT. WE'LL GO INTO THE
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  • PARTICULARS IN A MOMENT, BUT THIS COULD COST THE UNIVERSITY
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  • OF VERMONT $500.000 A YEAR IN FEDERAL FUNDING. THEY ARE
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  • COMPELLING COERCED FORCED ABORTION PROCEDURES INVOLVING
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  • NURSES. IN OTHER WORDS, THE NURSES WERE FORCED TO
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  • PARTICIPATE IN ABORTION PROCEDURES WHEN THEY HAD STAFF
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  • THAT WOULD HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT AN OBJECTION ON RELIGIOUS
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  • GROUNDS. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO
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  • UNDERSTAND THIS, THEY KNEW OF THE RELIGIOUS OBJECTIONS OF OUR
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  • CLIENTS AND THEN WENT FORWARD AND FORCED THEM TO PARTICIPATE
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  • IN THIS ABORTION PROCEDURE. JORDAN SEKULOW: YEAH, I WANT TO
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  • MAKE SURE THIS IS CLEAR TO YOU. THIS COMES FROM THE FEDERAL
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  • GOVERNMENT HHS RELEASE. THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GOV,
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  • HHS.GOV, FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE TODAY, AUGUST 28, 2019. ON MAY
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  • 9TH, 2018 A NURSE AT U.V. MMC, THAT'S THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT
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  • MEDICAL CENTER, FILED A CONSCIENCE AND RELIGIOUS
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  • DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT WITH OCR. WE, THE ACLJ, REPRESENT
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  • THAT NURSE. SO, WE FILED THAT COMPLAINT WITH THE OFFICE OF
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  • CIVIL RIGHTS AT HHS AGAINST THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT MEDICAL
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  • CENTER, WHICH IS IN BURLINGTON, VERMONT, AND RECEIVES FEDERAL
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  • FUNDS FROM HHS. -TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS A
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  • YEAR. -CONTENDING THAT THE NURSE WAS FORCED TO ASSIST IN
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  • ABORTION IN VIOLATION OF THE NURSES CONSCIENCE RIGHTS. AS
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  • PART OF ITS INVESTIGATION, -THIS IS COMING RIGHT FROM
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  • THEIR DOCUMENT. -YES, FROM HHS. IT'S NOT FROM ACLJ. THIS IS FROM
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  • YOUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HHS, OCR
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  • CONTACTED U.V. MMC REPEATEDLY IN A GOOD-FAITH EFFORT TO SEEK
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  • COOPERATION FROM THE HOSPITAL, BUT THE HOSPITAL REFUSED TO
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  • CONFORM ITS POLICIES TO FEDERAL CONSCIENCE LAWS, PROVIDE ALL THE
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  • DOCUMENTS REQUESTED BY OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, OR PRODUCE
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  • WITNESSES FOR THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS TO INTERVIEW.
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  • NEVERTHELESS, OCR INTERVIEWED MULTIPLE WITNESSES AND GATHERED
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  • EVIDENCE CONCERNING THE ALLEGATION. AND THEN IT GETS
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  • REALLY TROUBLING FROM THERE. ONE: -WELL, LET'S LET, HERE'S
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  • WHAT I WANT TO DO ABOUT THIS, -I THINK THE FIRST PART IS THE
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  • KEY. -OK, READ THE FIRST ONE. THERE ARE FIVE FINDINGS THAT ARE
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  • VERY SIGNIFICANT HERE. WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME,
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  • BUT WE'LL DO THE FIRST ONE NOW BEFORE THE BREAK. WE'LL GET TO
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  • THE OTHER ONES WHEN WE COME BACK. -BECAUSE THIS IS DIRECT
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  • TO OUR CLIENT AND DIRECT TO THE WORK OF THE ACLJ. WE FILED THIS
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  • COMPLAINT WITH HHS. WE PUT THEM ON NOTICE. HHS THEN DID THEIR
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  • INVESTIGATION, AND THEY FOUND THIS, SPECIFICALLY, DETERMINED
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  • THAT, ONE, THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT MEDICAL CENTER FORCED
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  • THE NURSE COMPLAINANT TO ASSIST IN ABORTION AGAINST THE NURSE'S
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  • RELIGIOUS OR MORAL OBJECTION. THE NURSE HAD AN EXPRESSED, HAD
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  • EXPRESSED AN OBJECTION FOR MANY YEARS AND WAS INCLUDED IN A LIST
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  • OF OBJECTORS. BUT U.V. MMC KNOWINGLY ASSIGNED THE NURSE TO
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  • AN ABORTION PROCEDURE. THEY FORCED HER TO TAKE PART IN
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  • ABORTION VIOLATING FEDERAL CONSCIENCE LAWS WHILE THEY
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  • RECEIVE FEDERAL TAXPAYER DOLLARS. -AND THEY KNEW THAT
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  • SHE HAD OBJECTIONS ON CONSCIENCE. IT WAS FORCED
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  • ABORTION COERCION PARTICIPATION. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. AND THIS IS
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  • THE FINDING. WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE ACTUAL FINDINGS FROM
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  • HHS. THIS IS A HUGE VICTORY. BUT THIS ALSO POINTS TO THE FACT
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  • THAT WE DON'T JUST TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES HERE, WE DON'T JUST
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  • WORK ON LEGISLATION, WHICH IS ALL IMPORTANT, BUT WE ACTUALLY
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  • ARE IN COURT OR DEALING WITH AGENCIES DEFENDING LIFE. AND
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  • YOU'RE SEEING THAT VICTORY TODAY. WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE
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  • AHEAD ON THIS MAJOR VICTORY FOR LIFE DEALING WITH THE HEALTH AND
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  • HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY COMING OUT WITH A GREAT ORDER IN FAVOR OF
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  • OUR CLIENT, I MEAN, JUST A TREMENDOUS VICTORY. YOUR PRAYERS
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  • MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN WE GET THESE VICTORIES. SO, WE WANT
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  • TO THANK YOU FOR STANDING WITH US. BACK WITH MORE IN A MOMENT.
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  • JAY SEKULOW: SO, IF YOU'RE JUST
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  • JOINING US, WE'VE HAD A MAJOR DECISION OUT OF THE HEALTH AND
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  • HUMAN SERVICES. THEY'VE ISSUED AN ORDER TO THE UNIVERSITY OF
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  • VERMONT THAT WAS FORCING ABORTION COERCION OF NURSES AND
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  • MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS TO ENGAGE IN ABORTION PROCEDURES AGAINST
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  • THEIR CONSCIENCE. THAT'S BAD ENOUGH, BAD ENOUGH THAT THEY'RE
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  • DOING ABORTIONS AT THE HOSPITAL ANYWAYS, THEN BAD ENOUGH THAT
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  • THEY'RE FORCING AND COERCING THE PARTICIPATION IN THE ABORTION
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  • PROCEDURE. AND THEN GO, THEN TAKE IT ONE STEP DEEPER, AND
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  • THIS IS THE THING THAT BOTHERS ME, I THINK, I MEAN, THE WHOLE
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  • THING BOTHERS ME. I'M VERY HAPPY WITH THE CONCLUSION OF THIS.
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  • CECE HEIL'S HERE, SENIOR COUNSEL FOR THE ACLJ. THEY HAD, YOU
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  • POINTED THIS OUT IN OUR PRE-MEETING, OUR PRE-BROADCAST
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  • MEETING, THEY HAD NURSES AND OTHER MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS THAT
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  • WOULD HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THESE PROCEDURES. THESE PEOPLE ARE ON
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  • A LIST TO NOT PARTICIPATE AND THEY COMPELLED THEM TO DO IT.
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  • CECE HEIL: YEAH, SO, THESE WERE ELECTIVE ABORTIONS. THIS IS NOT
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  • SOMETHING THAT'S AN EMERGENCY, THAT'S LIFE-THREATENING. THESE
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  • WERE ELECTIVE ABORTIONS. SO, THEY COULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY
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  • SCHEDULED NURSES THAT DO NOT HAVE AN OBJECTION TO PERFORMING
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  • ABORTIONS. AND THEY DID NOT. THEY INTENTIONALLY SCHEDULED THE
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  • NURSES THAT HAD AN OBJECTION, THAT WAS REGISTERED WITH THE
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  • HOSPITAL; THEY SCHEDULED THOSE NURSES, THAT THEY KNEW MORALLY
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  • OBJECTED TO ABORTION, TO PARTICIPATE. AND SOMETIMES THEY
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  • WOULD NOT TELL THEM UNTIL THEY WALKED INTO THE OPERATING ROOM.
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  • JORDAN SEKULOW: THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND OUT IN OUR CASE. HHS AND
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  • OUR CLIENT FOUND THAT THE NURSE, WHO IS OUR CLIENT, WAS NOT TOLD
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  • THE PROCEDURE WAS AN ABORTION UNTIL THE NURSE WALKED INTO THE
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  • ROOM, WHEN THE DOCTOR, KNOWING THE NURSE OBJECTED TO ASSISTING
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  • IN ABORTIONS, TOLD THE NURSE, QUOTE, DON'T HATE ME. THE NURSE
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  • AGAIN OBJECTED. AND OTHER STAFF WERE PRESENT WHO COULD HAVE
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  • TAKEN THE NURSE'S PLACE, AS CECE SAID. THIS IS FROM HHS. BUT THE
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  • NURSE WAS REQUIRED TO ASSIST WITH THE ABORTION ANYWAY. IF THE
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  • NURSE HAD NOT DONE SO, THE NURSE REASONABLY FEARED, THIS IS FROM
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  • THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, ABOUT OUR
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  • CLIENT, THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT MEDICAL CENTER WOULD
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  • FIRE OR REPORT THE NURSE TO LICENSING AUTHORITIES. THAT IS
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  • ONLY POINT 1 OF, REALLY, 5 MAJOR CONCLUSIONS MADE. -I WANT TO GO
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  • THROUGH THOSE. YEAH, I WANT TO GO THROUGH, HERE'S THE HOLDING,
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  • SO, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR, WHEN YOU'RE A LAWYER, YOU
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  • ALWAYS LOOK FOR THE HOLDING. SO, THIS IS FOR OUR AUDIENCE, AGAIN,
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  • IF YOU'RE JUST US, THIS IS REALLY BREAKING NEWS, FOR THE
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  • FIRST TIME THAT WE KNOW OF, HHS HAS ISSUED AN ORDER THAT WILL
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  • SUSPEND FEDERAL FUNDING TO A HOSPITAL THAT FORCED ITS NURSES
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  • AGAINST THEIR RELIGIOUS AND CONSCIENCE OBJECTIONS FROM
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  • PERFORMING ABORTION PROCEDURES. AND AS CECE JUST MENTIONED, THAT
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  • WAS MADE EVEN WORSE BY THE FACT THAT THEY HAD A SITUATION WHERE
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  • THEY HAD OTHERS AVAILABLE THAT COULD HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THIS.
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  • BUT LET ME READ YOU THE FIVE FINDINGS. WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH
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  • ONE. FIRST, THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT'S MEDICAL CENTER HAS
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  • FORCED, AND THIS, AGAIN, RIGHT FROM THE ORDER, HAS FORCED, AND
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  • ATTEMPTED TO FORCE, HEALTH CARE PERSONNEL, INCLUDING NURSES, SO
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  • NOT JUST NURSES, INTO ASSISTING WITH ABORTIONS OVER THEIR
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  • CONSCIENCE BASED OBJECTIONS. SO, NUMBER ONE, THEY ESTABLISHED
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  • THERE WAS A CONSCIENCE BASED OBJECTION TO THE ABORTION
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  • PROCEDURE, AND THEY WERE, LOOK AT THE WORD THEY USED, FORCED
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  • THEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROCEDURE. THAT'S NUMBER ONE.
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  • NUMBER TWO, THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT INTENTIONALLY,
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  • UNNECESSARILY, AND KNOWINGLY SCHEDULES NURSES OR OTHER HEALTH
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  • CARE PERSONNEL, WHO HAVE RELIGIOUS OR MORAL OBJECTIONS TO
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  • ABORTION, TO ASSIST WITH THE ABORTION. SO, CECE LET'S
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  • ELABORATE ON THAT. WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE,
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  • BUT LET'S ELABORATE ON THAT ONE. THAT'S, TO ME, IS THE MOST
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  • EGREGIOUS. CECE HEIL: YEAH, THAT JUST BAD FAITH. THAT'S TERRIBLE
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  • BECAUSE THAT'S INTENTIONALLY. THIS ISN'T JUST, OH, WE MADE A
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  • MISTAKE, OR WE DIDN'T KNOW, OR WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE
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  • AVAILABLE. THIS IS THEY INTENTIONALLY DID IT. THEY
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  • WANTED TO VIOLATE THESE NURSES, WHO HAVE A MORAL OBJECTION TO
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  • KILLING A BABY, THEY WANTED TO FORCE THEM DO YOU HAVE TO
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  • PARTICIPATE IN IT. -ALL RIGHT, THAT'S JUST TWO. HERE'S NUMBER
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  • THREE, THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT SUBJECTS HEATHCARE PERSONNEL,
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  • INCLUDING NURSES WHO HAVE RELIGIOUS OR MORAL OBJECTIONS TO
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  • ABORTION, TO DIFFERENT TERMS OR CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT THAN
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  • HEALTH CARE PERSONNEL WHO DO NOT SHARE THE SAME RELIGIOUS OR
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  • MORAL OBJECTIONS. IN OTHER WORDS, IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE,
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  • THEY'RE TREATING PRO-LIFE MEDICAL PERSONNEL DIFFERENTLY
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  • THAN THEY'RE TREATING MEDICAL PERSONNEL THAT ARE PRO-ABORTION.
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  • SO, IF YOU'RE PRO-ABORTION, YOU'RE TREATED ONE WAY, GIVEN
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  • ALL KINDS OF ACCOMMODATIONS. IF YOU'RE PRO-LIFE AND YOU'RE
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  • OPPOSED TO ABORTION, JORDAN, YOU'RE TREATED SEPARATELY. IN
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  • THE LAW, THAT'S NOT EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW. THAT'S
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  • NOT EQUAL PROTECTION OF THE LAWS. JORDAN SEKULOW: NO, IT IS
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  • ABORTION DISTORTION. AND THIS TIME HHS SAID NO MORE. SO, YOU
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  • DON'T THINK ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES? YOU DON'T THINK
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  • WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, EVEN WHEN IT CAN BE
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  • TOUGH GOINGS IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH ON PRO-LIFE LEGISLATION
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  • RIGHT NOW, LOOK AT WHAT HHS CAN DO, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HEALTH AND
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  • HUMAN SERVICES CAN DO FOR THE PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT BY TAKING THE
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  • ORDERS, USING EXISTING LAW AND ACTUALLY ENFORCING IT. AND YOU
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  • KNOW WHAT WE'VE LEARNED? PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS IN THE
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  • PAST, THEY HAD THESE LAWS ON THE BOOKS. THEY DIDN'T ENFORCE THEM.
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  • IT DIDN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT, THEY
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  • DIDN'T ENFORCE THEM. AND WHAT WE FOUND HERE IS IT WASN'T JUST OUR
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  • CLIENT WHO WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO TAKE THIS COMPLAINT TO HHS AND
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  • THEIR OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS. HOW MANY? THERE WERE A NUMBER OF
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  • NURSES HHS IDENTIFIED. SO, THINK ABOUT HOW MANY AROUND THE
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  • COUNTRY ARE BEING FORCED AGAINST THEIR WILL AND AGAINST THE LAW
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  • TO PERFORM ABORTION PROCEDURES. I THINK THIS IS LIKE THE IRS
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  • CASE-TIP OF THE ICEBERG. -YEAH, I THINK IT IS THE TIP OF THE
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  • ICEBERG. IT IS LIKE THE IRS CASE. SO, ALEX AZAR'S IS THE HHS
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  • SECRETARY, HAS DONE A GREAT JOB. HE HAS, SPECIFICALLY, STATED-I
  • 00:10:24.290 --> 00:10:28.250
  • DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE AUDIO ON THIS-THAT HE'S PRO-LIFE AND
  • 00:10:28.260 --> 00:10:31.090
  • TAKES A PRO-LIFE POSITION. AS IF THAT NOW DISQUALIFIES YOU FROM
  • 00:10:31.100 --> 00:10:33.260
  • GOVERNMENT SERVICE. WELL, IT DOESN'T. AS JORDAN JUST SAID,
  • 00:10:33.270 --> 00:10:35.270
  • ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. ONE OF THE CONSEQUENCES IS YOU GET
  • 00:10:35.280 --> 00:10:37.110
  • ALEX AZAR AS HHS SECRETARY AND HE HIRES A STAFF THAT
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  • UNDERSTANDS THAT VIOLATING PEOPLE'S CONSCIENCE IS NOT A
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  • GOOD THING TO DO. HERE'S THE OTHER THING, SO, WE JUST SAID
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  • THAT THEY HAVE RELIGIOUS OR MORAL OBJECTIONS AND THEY TREAT
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  • PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY. HERE'S ANOTHER ONE, UNIVERSITY OF
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  • VERMONT DISCRIMINATES AGAINST HEALTH CARE PERSONNEL BECAUSE OF
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  • THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS OR MORAL CONVICTIONS IN OPPOSITION TO
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  • ABORTIONS. SO, THIS IS A SPECIFIC FINDING, CECE, BY HHS,
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  • THAT, IN FACT, THERE IS A VIOLATION OF, A DISCRIMINATION
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  • BASED ON RELIGION. -YES, AND ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S
  • 00:11:08.250 --> 00:11:11.110
  • COMPLETELY INTENTIONAL. THIS IS NOT BY MISTAKE. THIS IS NOT
  • 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.230
  • BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO CAN PERFORM THESE
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  • PROCEDURES. THIS WAS INTENTIONAL DISCRIMINATION, MAKING THEM
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  • VIOLATE A CLOSELY HELD RELIGIOUS BELIEF OF PROTECTING BABIES.
  • 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.130
  • -NOW LOOK, I HAVE LITIGATED WHAT WE CALL VIEWPOINT
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  • DISCRIMINATION CASES FOR 35 YEARS BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT
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  • OF THE UNITED STATES. I MEAN, I'VE HAD CASES IN THE 80'S. THE
  • 00:11:29.090 --> 00:11:31.290
  • 90'S. THE 2000'S, THEN UP UNTIL ABOUT 2010. SO, I'VE DONE THESE
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  • CASES. AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT WE WIN THESE VIEWPOINT
  • 00:11:34.230 --> 00:11:40.240
  • DISCRIMINATION CASES 9-0. THIS IS A STEP BEYOND VIEWPOINT
  • 00:11:40.250 --> 00:11:43.050
  • DISCRIMINATION, THOUGH. THIS IS VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION, YES,
  • 00:11:43.060 --> 00:11:46.150
  • WE'RE TREATING YOU DIFFERENTLY, BUT THEN THERE'S A COMPULSION
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  • ASPECT OF THIS. WE ARE COMPELLING YOU TO PARTICIPATE,
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  • FORCED PARTICIPATION IN THE ABORTION PROCEDURE. THAT'S THE
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  • COERCIVE ELEMENT OF THIS. WITH THE RISK OF, A, IN THIS
  • 00:11:55.180 --> 00:11:59.150
  • PARTICULAR CASE THEY DIDN'T TELL THEM UNTIL THEY WERE IN THE
  • 00:11:59.160 --> 00:12:01.180
  • OPERATING THEATRE, IN THE OPERATING ROOM. AND THEN, B, OF
  • 00:12:01.190 --> 00:12:07.000
  • COURSE, THEY DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THEIR RIGHTS WHEN THEY KNEW
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  • THEIR RIGHT. IN OTHER WORDS, THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT WAS FULLY
  • 00:12:09.100 --> 00:12:13.040
  • AWARE THAT THESE HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS DID NOT HAVE TO
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  • PARTICIPATE IN ABORTION PROCEDURES. THEY WERE FULLY
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  • AWARE OF THAT. IT WASN'T LIKE THEIR DEFENSE WAS WE DID NOT
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  • KNOW. THEY KNEW FULL WELL. -RIGHT. AND WHAT HHS ALSO
  • 00:12:23.000 --> 00:12:26.180
  • POINTS OUT IS IN, JUST LAST YEAR, 2018 THE UNIVERSITY
  • 00:12:26.190 --> 00:12:31.090
  • IMPLEMENTED ITS CONFLICT OF CARE POLICY. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE
  • 00:12:31.100 --> 00:12:36.200
  • THEY SAY REFUSAL TO PERFORM THE ASSIGNED JOB FUNCTION,
  • 00:12:36.210 --> 00:12:41.000
  • BASICALLY, THEY'LL LOSE THEIR JOB. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY USE.
  • 00:12:41.010 --> 00:12:44.210
  • THEY USE THIS CONFLICT OF CARE POLICY TO SAY YOU'RE GONNA LOSE
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  • YOUR JOB UNLESS YOU PERFORM THIS. -YEAH, I'M GONNA SAVE THE
  • 00:12:47.180 --> 00:12:49.130
  • CONFLICT OF CARE POLICY FOR THE NEXT SEGMENT BECAUSE THAT'S
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  • WHERE YOU GET, -I'M SORRY. -IT'S OKAY, YOU GET INTO THE
  • 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:53.170
  • VIEWPOINT DISCRIMINATION ISSUE. BUT I WANT TO RESET THIS SO
  • 00:12:53.180 --> 00:12:56.070
  • EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
  • 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:59.120
  • SO, WE FILED A COMPLAINT WITH HHS HERE IT IS. THIS IS WHAT WE
  • 00:12:59.130 --> 00:13:04.220
  • FILED WITH HHS. IF YOU'RE WATCHING ON TV, PERISCOPE, OVER
  • 00:13:04.230 --> 00:13:07.150
  • THE WEBSITE, YOU'RE SEEING THIS. FACEBOOK, THERE IT IS. THAT'S
  • 00:13:07.160 --> 00:13:11.010
  • THE COMPLAINT. WE FILED THAT. THAT STARTS THE INVESTIGATION.
  • 00:13:11.020 --> 00:13:14.080
  • SO, WE REQUESTED AN INVESTIGATION OF THE UNIVERSITY
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  • OF VERMONT'S HEALTHCARE CENTER. SO, THAT'S WHAT STARTED THIS
  • 00:13:17.140 --> 00:13:20.240
  • WHOLE THING. AND THEN HSS GOT INVOLVED. LET'S GO THROUGH THAT,
  • 00:13:20.250 --> 00:13:25.010
  • JORDAN, WITH WHAT HHS DID. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR
  • 00:13:25.020 --> 00:13:27.070
  • PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. THEY STARTED AN INVESTIGATION.
  • 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.000
  • -THAT'S RIGHT. SO, THEY START AN INVESTIGATION. THEY LOOK INTO
  • 00:13:29.010 --> 00:13:31.050
  • THIS MATTER. AND SO, ON MAY 9, 2018 WE FILED THE COMPLAINT WITH
  • 00:13:31.060 --> 00:13:35.100
  • THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS WITH HHS, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND
  • 00:13:35.110 --> 00:13:38.230
  • HUMAN SERVICES, ON BEHALF OF OUR CLIENT, A NURSE AT THE
  • 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.160
  • UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH IS KNOWN AS U.V.
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  • MMC. OUR COMPLAINT ALLEGED, IT WAS A CONSCIENCE AND RELIGIOUS
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  • DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT, THAT THE CENTER FORCED THE NURSE TO
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  • ASSIST IN AN ABORTION IN VIOLATION OF THE NURSE'S
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  • CONSCIENCE RIGHTS AND THE FEDERAL LAWS THAT PROTECT THOSE
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  • CONSCIENCE RIGHTS. AS A RESULT OF THE INVESTIGATION, SO THAT
  • 00:14:02.060 --> 00:14:05.240
  • WAS FILED IN MAY OF 2018. JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A YEAR
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  • LATER AUGUST 28TH, 2019, -TODAY. -YEP, TODAY. THE
  • 00:14:11.050 --> 00:14:15.230
  • UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT MEDICAL CENTER WAS FOUND TO HAVE FORCED
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  • THE NURSE TO ASSIST IN AN ABORTION AGAINST HER WILL AND
  • 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.040
  • MORAL AND RELIGIOUS OBJECTION. THE NURSE WAS NOT TOLD THE
  • 00:14:24.050 --> 00:14:28.050
  • PROCEDURE WAS AN ABORTION UNTIL SHE WALKED INTO THE ROOM.
  • 00:14:28.060 --> 00:14:31.010
  • -THAT'S WHAT CECE SAID, YEAH. -THINK ABOUT THAT, THAT THEY
  • 00:14:31.020 --> 00:14:33.230
  • KNEW THAT SHE OBJECTED TO ABORTIONS. THIS WAS ALL FOUND BY
  • 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:36.090
  • HHS. NOW THEY HAVE 30 DAYS TO EITHER COMPLY WITH HHS OR LOSE
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  • ALL FEDERAL FUNDING IN THE FUTURE. -WE'VE GOT A LOT MORE
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  • AHEAD ON THIS MAJOR VICTORY FOR LIFE DEALING WITH THE HEALTH AND
  • 00:14:43.180 --> 00:14:47.160
  • HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY COMING OUT WITH A GREAT ORDER IN FAVOR OF
  • 00:14:47.170 --> 00:14:51.030
  • OUR CLIENT, I MEAN, JUST A TREMENDOUS VICTORY. YOUR PRAYERS
  • 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:54.000
  • MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN WE GET THESE VICTORIES. SO, WE WANT
  • 00:14:54.010 --> 00:14:56.270
  • TO THANK YOU FOR STANDING WITH US. BACK WITH MORE IN A MOMENT.
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  • JAY SEKULOW: WELL, BIG WIN OUT OF
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  • HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. I WANT TO, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE
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  • FRANK MANION COME ON, BUT BEFORE I HAVE FRANK COME ON, I'M GONNA
  • 00:15:10.160 --> 00:15:12.060
  • GO PLAY FOR YOU, THIS IS WHAT THE SECRETARY OF HEALTH AND
  • 00:15:12.070 --> 00:15:15.080
  • HUMAN SERVICES HAS SAID ABOUT THE PRO-LIFE POSITION. THIS IS
  • 00:15:15.090 --> 00:15:17.240
  • WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ELECTIONS HAVING CONSEQUENCES. HERE'S ONE,
  • 00:15:17.250 --> 00:15:20.050
  • TAKE A LISTEN: ALEX AZAR: LET ME BE REALLY CLEAR, PRESIDENT
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  • TRUMP, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, AND I ARE PART OF A PRO-LIFE
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  • ADMINISTRATION. WE STAND FOR PROTECTING THE SANCTITY OF HUMAN
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  • LIFE FROM CONCEPTION UNTIL NATURAL DEATH. PART OF THAT IS
  • 00:15:30.260 --> 00:15:33.270
  • THIS REGULATION YOU MENTIONED THAT WE PUT OUT THAT PREVENTS
  • 00:15:33.280 --> 00:15:38.000
  • THESE TITLE 10 FAMILY PLANNING MONIES FROM GOING TO SUPPORTING
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  • THE ABORTION ENTERPRISE. FOR TOO LONG THAT MONEY HAS BEEN USED TO
  • 00:15:42.180 --> 00:15:46.150
  • SUBSIDIZE THE PROVISION OF ABORTION. -THERE YOU HAVE IT. I
  • 00:15:46.160 --> 00:15:50.240
  • MEAN, THAT'S YOUR HHS SECRETARY. IT'S PRETTY REFRESHING, I HAVE
  • 00:15:50.250 --> 00:15:54.010
  • TO SAY. FRANK MANION, SENIOR COUNSEL FOR THE ACLJ. FRANK, HOW
  • 00:15:54.020 --> 00:15:57.080
  • DID THIS CASE START? FRANK MANION: THE CASE STARTED, JAY,
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  • BY THIS NURSE IN VERMONT CONTACTING US. ACTUALLY, SHE WAS
  • 00:16:00.030 --> 00:16:04.100
  • REFERRED TO US BY A DOCTOR AT U.V. MMC. WE WENT UP AND MET
  • 00:16:04.110 --> 00:16:09.080
  • WITH HER, GEOFF SURTEES AND I. WE'VE MADE SEVERAL TRIPS UP
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  • THERE AS PART OF THIS INVESTIGATION, AND PART OF OUR
  • 00:16:12.250 --> 00:16:18.010
  • INVESTIGATION. AND WE WERE, OBVIOUSLY, AWARE OF THE
  • 00:16:18.020 --> 00:16:20.040
  • EXISTENCE OF THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS, ESPECIALLY THE NEW
  • 00:16:20.050 --> 00:16:22.040
  • CONSCIENCE AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM DIVISION THAT WAS CREATED IN
  • 00:16:22.050 --> 00:16:24.280
  • JANUARY OF 2018. SO, WE FILED THE COMPLAINT THAT YOU'VE
  • 00:16:24.290 --> 00:16:27.180
  • ALREADY SHOWED THE VIEWERS AND TALKED ABOUT WITH THE LISTENERS.
  • 00:16:27.190 --> 00:16:29.220
  • IT'S BEEN A WHILE. I CAN SAY THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT TOO
  • 00:16:29.230 --> 00:16:33.120
  • MUCH I CAN SAY ABOUT THE INVESTIGATION. WE WEREN'T PRIVY
  • 00:16:33.130 --> 00:16:37.230
  • TO ALL PARTS OF THEIR INVESTIGATION, BUT IT WAS AN
  • 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:39.270
  • EXTREMELY THOROUGH, PAINSTAKING INVESTIGATION. WE, GEOFF AND I,
  • 00:16:39.280 --> 00:16:42.050
  • SAT IN A ROOM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WHERE THREE SEASONED ATTORNEYS
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  • FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GRILLED OUR
  • 00:16:45.210 --> 00:16:49.280
  • CLIENT FOR OVER FIVE HOURS ABOUT EVERY ASPECT OF HER STORY. YOU
  • 00:16:49.290 --> 00:16:52.280
  • KNOW, UP AND DOWN, LEFT AND RIGHT, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT
  • 00:16:52.290 --> 00:16:57.000
  • THEY, YOU KNOW, WERE ON SOLID GROUND IN WHAT THEY'VE DONE
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  • TODAY. AND THAT WAS IN ADDITION TO A TWO AND A HALF HOUR
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  • TELEPHONE INTERROGATION THAT THEY CONDUCTED OF HER
  • 00:17:02.060 --> 00:17:05.150
  • PREVIOUSLY. AND AFTER THEY SPOKE TO OUR CLIENT, THEY WENT AND
  • 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:09.010
  • INTERVIEWED, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, APPROXIMATELY
  • 00:17:09.020 --> 00:17:12.030
  • HALF A DOZEN OTHER U.V. MMC EMPLOYEES. THEY HAVE SOLID
  • 00:17:12.040 --> 00:17:17.200
  • GROUNDS FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TODAY. AND WE'RE JUST THRILLED
  • 00:17:17.210 --> 00:17:20.070
  • THAT, FINALLY, SOMEBODY IS ENFORCING THE CHURCH AMENDMENT.
  • 00:17:20.080 --> 00:17:22.240
  • -WELL, THE CHURCH AMENDMENT'S BEEN AROUND SINCE, I MEAN, CECE,
  • 00:17:22.250 --> 00:17:25.060
  • YOU WERE SAYING, SINCE 1973. CECE HEIL: 1973. SO, THIS IS
  • 00:17:25.070 --> 00:17:27.130
  • NOTHING NEW, -EXCEPT IT'S NEVER BEEN APPLIED. -IT'S JUST NEVER
  • 00:17:27.140 --> 00:17:30.110
  • BEEN ENFORCED. EVER! -YEAH, I MEAN, THIS IS, THE IRONY OF THIS
  • 00:17:30.120 --> 00:17:33.030
  • IS, AND YOU SAY ALL THESE ADMINISTRATIONS,
  • 00:17:33.040 --> 00:17:34.210
  • DEMOCRATS-REPUBLICANS, NOBODY ENFORCED THIS, FRANK. -NOPE!
  • 00:17:34.220 --> 00:17:37.270
  • NOBODY! AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ECHOING WHAT JORDAN WAS SAYING
  • 00:17:37.280 --> 00:17:40.280
  • EARLIER, WE HAVE FILED COMPLAINTS WITH HHS OVER THE
  • 00:17:40.290 --> 00:17:44.160
  • YEARS AND WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, AFTER A WHILE WE REALIZED THEY
  • 00:17:44.170 --> 00:17:47.240
  • WEREN'T GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. WE'VE EVEN TRIED TO BRING CAUSES
  • 00:17:47.250 --> 00:17:50.030
  • OF ACTION IN LAWSUITS THAT WE FILED. BUT BECAUSE THE CHURCH
  • 00:17:50.040 --> 00:17:54.010
  • AMENDMENT, IT CAN'T BE ENFORCED PRIVATELY, THERE'S NO PRIVATE
  • 00:17:54.020 --> 00:17:56.000
  • RIGHT OF ACTION, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN SHOT DOWN. THIS IS WHAT WE
  • 00:17:56.010 --> 00:17:58.120
  • NEEDED TO HAVE DONE. AND TODAY IT'S BEING DONE. -I'LL TELL YOU
  • 00:17:58.130 --> 00:18:02.230
  • THIS, LOOK, THIS IS A, THIS IS A MAJOR VICTORY. I MEAN, A REALLY
  • 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:06.150
  • SIGNIFICANT VICTORY FOR OUR CLIENTS AND FOR THE LIFE CAUSE.
  • 00:18:06.160 --> 00:18:12.030
  • THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. BUT YOU KNOW, CECE, I WANT YOU
  • 00:18:12.040 --> 00:18:14.170
  • TO REITERATE A POINT AND GET FRANK TO COMMENT ON THIS, THE
  • 00:18:14.180 --> 00:18:16.240
  • THING THAT, IT'S ALL SHOCKING, BUT WHAT'S REALLY SHOCKING IS
  • 00:18:16.250 --> 00:18:20.140
  • THEY HAVE THIS, LIKE, LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE CONSCIENCE
  • 00:18:20.150 --> 00:18:23.050
  • OBJECTIONS AND THEY IGNORE. -YES. -NOT ONLY IGNORE IT, YOU
  • 00:18:23.060 --> 00:18:26.170
  • SAY INTENTIONALLY. -NOT ONLY IGNORE IT, I'D SAY THEY ACTUALLY
  • 00:18:26.180 --> 00:18:28.180
  • USE IT TO SEE, NOW WHO HAS AN OBJECTION TO PERFORMING AN
  • 00:18:28.190 --> 00:18:31.160
  • ABORTION, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE ARE GOING TO FORCE TO
  • 00:18:31.170 --> 00:18:35.130
  • PARTICIPATE IN ABORTION AGAINST THEIR MORAL OBJECTION THAT WE
  • 00:18:35.140 --> 00:18:38.140
  • HAVE ON RECORD AND WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CAN DO IT. -ALL
  • 00:18:38.150 --> 00:18:41.140
  • RIGHT, SO FRANK, LET ME READ, THIS IS ONE OF THE FINDINGS FROM
  • 00:18:41.150 --> 00:18:43.100
  • HHS-THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT MEDICAL CENTER INTENTIONALLY,
  • 00:18:43.110 --> 00:18:47.090
  • UNNECESSARILY, AND KNOWINGLY SCHEDULED NURSES OR OTHER HEALTH
  • 00:18:47.100 --> 00:18:49.250
  • CARE PERSONNEL, WHO HAVE RELIGIOUS OR MORAL OBJECTIONS TO
  • 00:18:49.260 --> 00:18:52.140
  • ABORTION, TO ASSIST WITH ABORTION. THAT'S WHAT CECE WAS
  • 00:18:52.150 --> 00:18:54.090
  • JUST TALKING ABOUT. EXPLAIN TO EVERYBODY WHAT THAT ACTUALLY
  • 00:18:54.100 --> 00:18:57.050
  • MEANS. -I CAN GIVE YOU SOME MORE INSIGHT ON THAT FROM OUR
  • 00:18:57.060 --> 00:19:00.100
  • CLIENT'S OWN STATEMENTS THAT SHE GAVE TO HHS. AT THIS HOSPITAL,
  • 00:19:00.110 --> 00:19:06.090
  • EACH DAY THE MANAGERS WOULD SIT DOWN TOWARDS THE END OF THE DAY
  • 00:19:06.100 --> 00:19:09.090
  • AND SCHEDULE THE NEXT DAY'S PROCEDURES. OKAY? THERE WERE
  • 00:19:09.100 --> 00:19:12.160
  • PEOPLE ON THE NURSING STAFF WHO PREFERRED NOT TO WORK ON CERTAIN
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  • KINDS OF CASES FOR STRICTLY MEDICAL REASONS. THEY DIDN'T
  • 00:19:16.070 --> 00:19:19.010
  • FEEL AS PROFICIENT IN VASCULAR SURGERY, LET'S SAY, OR THEY
  • 00:19:19.020 --> 00:19:22.100
  • PREFER TO WORK LATER IN THE DAY. NEVER WERE THOSE PEOPLE
  • 00:19:22.110 --> 00:19:25.120
  • SCHEDULED FOR THE THING THAT THEY SAID THEY DIDN'T FEEL
  • 00:19:25.130 --> 00:19:28.030
  • COMFORTABLE DOING. BUT FREQUENTLY, VERY FREQUENTLY, THE
  • 00:19:28.040 --> 00:19:31.030
  • PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR LIST FOR
  • 00:19:31.040 --> 00:19:34.060
  • ABORTIONS FOUND THEMSELVES, WHEN THEY SHOWED UP FOR WORK THE NEXT
  • 00:19:34.070 --> 00:19:37.120
  • DAY, ON THE BOARD SCHEDULED TO GO INTO AN ABORTION PROCEDURE
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  • IN, LET'S SAY, 15 MINUTES. AND THAT PUTS THEM IN THE MOST
  • 00:19:40.260 --> 00:19:44.150
  • DIFFICULT SITUATION OF HAVING TO GO, HAT IN HAND, TO THEIR BOSS
  • 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.000
  • AND TRY TO GET THEIR BOSS TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR RELIGIOUS
  • 00:19:47.010 --> 00:19:49.110
  • BELIEFS. AND THAT'S GOT TO STOP. AND WE THINK THAT'S WHAT HHS
  • 00:19:49.120 --> 00:19:52.070
  • REALLY IS GETTING ANGRY ABOUT HERE. -FRANK, WHAT WAS THE
  • 00:19:52.080 --> 00:19:55.020
  • TIMEFRAME OF THIS? I MEAN, PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW
  • 00:19:55.030 --> 00:19:57.080
  • LONG, YOU KNOW, IT MOVED, ACTUALLY, FOR GOVERNMENT, THIS
  • 00:19:57.090 --> 00:19:59.170
  • MOVED VERY QUICKLY. THIS WAS A LOT OF WORK BY YOU AND YOUR TEAM
  • 00:19:59.180 --> 00:20:02.110
  • TO GET THIS THING TO THIS POINT, TO GET THIS CASE TO THIS POINT.
  • 00:20:02.120 --> 00:20:04.210
  • -RIGHT. I MEAN, WE WERE FIRST CONTACTED IN APRIL OF 2018, AND
  • 00:20:04.220 --> 00:20:09.040
  • WE FILED THIS COMPLAINT IN MAY. BUT YOU KNOW, JUST READING WHAT
  • 00:20:09.050 --> 00:20:13.260
  • HHS HAS ISSUED TODAY, THEY WERE DOING A LOT OF THINGS BEHIND THE
  • 00:20:13.270 --> 00:20:16.270
  • SCENES THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THEIR
  • 00:20:16.280 --> 00:20:18.230
  • ROLE TO TELL EVERYBODY WHAT THEY'RE DOING. WE KNEW CERTAIN
  • 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:22.080
  • THINGS THEY WOULD DO WHEN THEY WOULD WANT TO SPEAK WITH OUR
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  • CLIENT. WE PROVIDED THEM WITH SOME NAMES OF OTHER NURSES, AND
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  • I BELIEVE THOSE ARE SOME OF THE NURSES WE SEE REFERRED TO IN
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  • WHAT THEY'VE ISSUED TODAY. SO, YEAH, I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE
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  • INVESTIGATION THAT THEY DID, THE PARTS OF IT THAT WE WERE PRIVY
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  • TO. AND I'M SURE THAT THE PARTS THAT WE WEREN'T PRIVY TO WERE
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  • JUST AS THOROUGH. AND THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GO OFF HERE
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  • WITHOUT MAKING SURE THEY HAD ALL THEIR EYES DOTTED AND T'S
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  • CROSSED. AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT'S WHAT THEY DONE. JORDAN
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  • SEKULOW: AND AS FRANK SAID, HHS FOUND THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER
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  • OF HEALTH CARE PERSONNEL THERE, AT LEAST SINCE THE SPRING OF
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  • 2017, WHO INTENTIONALLY, UNNECESSARILY, AND KNOWINGLY
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  • WERE SCHEDULED BY THE UNIVERSITY OF VERMONT MEDICAL CENTER TO
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  • ASSIST WITH ELECTIVE ABORTIONS, SO, ABORTIONS FOR NO HEALTH
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  • REASON WHATSOEVER, AGAINST THEIR KNOWN MORAL OR RELIGIOUS
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  • OBJECTIONS. SO, IT WASN'T JUST OUR CLIENT. OUR CLIENT HELPED
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  • LEAD THE CHARGE AT THIS ONE HOSPITAL, BUT WHAT HHS FOUND WAS
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  • THAT THIS WAS GOING ON WIDESPREAD WITH THE NURSES AND
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  • MEDICAL STAFF. -YEAH, THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE, FOLKS. AND A HUGE
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  • WIN. WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRAYERS THAT ALLOW OUR
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  • TEAMS TO GO OUT AROUND THE GLOBE, BUT HERE IN THE UNITED
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  • STATES AS WELL, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, STANDING UP FOR
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  • LIFE. SO, A BIG THANK YOU TO THE TRINITY BROADCASTING NETWORK
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  • FAMILY. WE LOVE COMING TO YOU EACH AND EVERY WEEK. WE'VE BEEN
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  • DOING THIS FOR ALMOST 3 DECADES. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THAT
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  • FIGHT. YOUR PRAYERS MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. THANKS FOR STANDING
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  • WITH US.
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