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Matt & Laurie host Joyce Meyer-Book Healing the Soul of a Woman Devotional

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Praise | Joyce Meyer | November 12, 2019

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  • (upbeat instrumental music)
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  • - [Announcer] Tonight, on Praise, from Chicago,
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  • New York Times Best Selling Author
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  • and Bible teacher Joyce Meyer.
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  • (cheering and applause)
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  • (exciting instrumental music)
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  • And now, Matt and Laurie Crouch!
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  • (cheering and applause)
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  • - Welcome to Chicago, Illinois.
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  • Beautiful new studio.
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  • And all one hour we're gonna be talking
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  • about something very important.
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  • - Yes.
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  • - The Healing of the Soul of a Woman.
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  • Because everyone knows when Mama's happy, everybody's happy.
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  • - And when Mama's not?
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  • - Yeah, no one's happy. - Nuh-uh.
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  • - Joyce Meyer, we interviewed you on this subject
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  • when you wrote the book, this is now the devotional.
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  • - [Joyce] Right.
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  • - So, get into this subject so everyone knows
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  • what this is all gonna be out, how do you wanna start this?
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  • - Okay well, first of all,
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  • lots of people have already read the book.
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  • Of course if you haven't read the book,
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  • it's available, and you can get the book.
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  • These devotions are not,
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  • they're not just like excerpts taken out of the book,
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  • so it's not going to be like, repeat material.
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  • We actually got new stuff for this.
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  • And normally I'll write a 365 day devotional every year,
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  • but I wanted to do something
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  • where I would have a little more time in each devotion
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  • to get into more of like a little mini teaching.
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  • The devotionals are pretty short.
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  • And so this is a 90 day devotional
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  • devoted to the subject of healing the soul of a woman.
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  • Well, why put out a book, Healing the Soul of a Woman,
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  • and follow the next year with a devotional?
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  • Because to be honest with you,
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  • the healing of the soul,
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  • man or woman,
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  • it just takes some time.
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  • And it's not something that you're gonna make
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  • one quick pass at.
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  • You get some revelation.
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  • You begin.
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  • But I was somebody with a very wounded soul
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  • from being abused in my childhood,
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  • and it showed up a lot in my behavior.
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  • And we usually start by blaming
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  • everything on everybody else.
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  • Well if you wouldn't, then I wouldn't.
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  • And then probably one of the worst things is,
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  • is we blame our bad behavior on what we went through.
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  • Well if I wouldn't have gone through that,
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  • then I wouldn't be like this.
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  • And one of the most important things that God taught me
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  • is that you are the way you are
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  • because of what happened to you,
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  • but you must not let it become an excuse to stay that way.
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  • And so I really wanna make sure everybody gets that.
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  • Because no matter what's happened to you, you can be healed.
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  • You can be totally healed.
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  • Now, do I ever still have any,
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  • problems that I would say are connected to my past?
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  • Yes, sometimes some things come up.
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  • But now I'm able to act on the word of God
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  • rather than reacting to my feelings.
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  • And that's very important.
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  • Don't think because you still, it's even like forgiveness.
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  • If you forgive somebody who's hurt you, and you see them,
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  • and you have some old feelings crop up,
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  • that really doesn't mean you haven't forgiven.
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  • Because forgiveness is not a feeling.
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  • It's a decision that you make to obey God
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  • that actually helps you much more
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  • than it helps the person you forgave
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  • , they may not even care if you forgave them.
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  • For that matter, they may not even know they hurt you,
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  • depending on what the situation is.
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  • And so you might still feel,
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  • you can even feel like you don't like somebody, but,
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  • we have the truth, and the truth is God's word.
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  • And truth overrides facts, it's greater than facts.
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  • So the fact is is,
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  • if a certain thing may happen,
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  • I may begin to react the way I would've,
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  • say, to my father, like certain personality types
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  • or something like that.
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  • But I can quickly say no,
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  • I know the truth.
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  • And I don't have to behave that way anymore
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  • because I am free.
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  • And so I think that even for people
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  • who are helped by Healing the Soul of a Woman,
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  • I think you need the devotional too
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  • because these are, this is 90 days,
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  • you can go through this four times in a year if you want to.
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  • Or every year, you can make it part of your Bible study.
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  • These are quick, but there's 90 different subjects.
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  • (chuckles)
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  • And so,
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  • you know, things like,
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  • a place of mystery, well what's that about?
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  • Well it's about the soul.
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  • The soul is a place of mystery, it's a place that,
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  • your soul is something that even you don't understand,
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  • only God understands it, and he can give you understanding.
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  • You ever ask yourself questions like,
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  • why did I feel that way or,
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  • why did I act like that in that situation?
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  • And so there's a lot about the soul
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  • that we don't understand and so,
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  • healing your soul is different than healing a broken arm.
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  • It's like having a broken heart
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  • is a different thing than having a broken arm,
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  • but it's actually probably worse.
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  • And really,
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  • my opinion is that God is the only one, through Christ,
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  • who can actually bring you through to total healing.
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  • We know that there are lots of methods,
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  • and counseling may be helpful,
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  • and some people may need to take medication
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  • if they've been hurt bad enough
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  • over a long enough period of time.
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  • It may have caused so much stress in their life
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  • that their body won't function totally right without it.
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  • But those should not be our first go-to only options,
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  • because it's amazing what God can do in your life
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  • if you let him into those areas of your life.
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  • And that's a real key.
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  • See for years, I thought,
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  • when I got away from my dad, I got away from the problem.
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  • I couldn't wait to be 18 so I could just get away from home
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  • and leave home.
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  • Like there was no thought of me going to college,
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  • my teachers wanted me to apply for a journalism scholarship
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  • because they recognized that I could write.
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  • And I wasn't even able to think about a future,
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  • all I wanted to do was get away from
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  • what was going on in my life.
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  • I think it's been kind of nice
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  • that the Lord has anointed me to write 130 some odd books
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  • without my journalism scholarship.
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  • (Laurie laughing) - [Matt] Wow.
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  • - And it just,
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  • it takes time to recover from these things,
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  • and you have to give it that time.
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  • - We're talking ultimately about
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  • Healing the Soul of a Woman, the devotional,
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  • we have it available, all the information's on the screen,
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  • on how you can get it.
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  • We have a little bio piece.
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  • Joyce, when do you think you went on Christian TV first?
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  • Is that about the mid-90s, or?
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  • - I was 50.
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  • - [Matt] You were 50.
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  • - And I'm now 76.
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  • - 76, wow.
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  • (cheering and applause) 26 years ago.
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  • So we're not really introducing you,
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  • probably, to very many people.
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  • There could be some new viewership to TBN
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  • that haven't found your program.
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  • We put together a little bio piece, watch this.
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  • (jaunty instrumental music)
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  • - [Announcer] Joyce Meyer is one of the world's
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  • leading practical Bible teachers.
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  • And a New York Times Best Selling Author.
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  • Joyce's books have helped millions of people
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  • find hope and restoration through Jesus Christ.
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  • - I like believing, it's easier on me to believe
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  • than it is to not believe, so I've just decided to do it,
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  • just be like the little child and say I believe it.
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  • - [Announcer] Joyce's candid and practical teaching
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  • is shared daily through her Enjoying Everyday Life
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  • and Everyday Answers television programs.
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  • - Can anybody here get a revelation tonight
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  • on why you have problems in your life?
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  • - [Announcer] As well as a dozen domestic
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  • and international conferences each year.
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  • Joyce's passion to help hurting people
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  • is the foundation for Hand of Hope,
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  • the global humanitarian and missions outreach arm
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  • of Joyce Meyer Ministries.
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  • Here on Praise,
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  • Joyce Meyer.
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  • (cheering and applause)
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  • - Chicago.
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  • This beautiful studio, we're in Chicago, Illinois,
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  • just outside in Aurora, brand new studio facility.
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  • - So we're gonna bring Better Together on the road.
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  • - That's exactly right.
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  • - We're gonna come do it here together.
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  • - We'll be Better Together right in that other studio,
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  • right over there.
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  • - Yep, me and Joyce and a few others.
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  • - So, if you wind the clock back,
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  • the most unique thing I think is that
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  • you're the one writing the book called,
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  • Healing the Soul of a Woman.
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  • Because your testimony that you've done
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  • on television for years,
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  • is amazing.
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  • So it's almost like you've walked this path now
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  • for all these years, and you're the one,
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  • so go back to the very beginning.
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  • You have to sit here sometimes
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  • maybe more surprised than anybody,
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  • because you knew exactly who you were,
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  • 50 something years ago and even beyond that,
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  • and realizing that you were a broken person
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  • that the Lord has journeyed, that you've walked with,
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  • and this stuff really works.
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  • This isn't some kind of a joke.
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  • I mean, your life is different because of what,
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  • and you're giving it to us now in this form.
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  • Go back and, in case somebody doesn't know,
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  • go back a little bit and,
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  • it was a mess back in the early days.
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  • - Well.
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  • When I first started teaching, first of all,
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  • I would have no idea why God would call me to teach
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  • because I was a mess when he called me.
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  • The first Bible study that I taught
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  • was in my home for about five years,
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  • and I started teaching it wearing short shorts
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  • and blowing smoke in everybody's face.
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  • I'd sit there and just smoke one cigarette after the other
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  • and wear short shorts, and sit on the floor.
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  • - I'm sorry, I can't hardly grasp that.
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  • (laughter)
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  • You're gonna have to just do that on the platform some day
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  • and just relive that moment for us.
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  • - Oh yeah, but see, I didn't know any better.
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  • - Yeah. - Yeah.
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  • - I didn't know any better.
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  • But God not only saw where I was,
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  • he saw that I was workable material.
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  • - Yes. - My goodness.
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  • - I was one of those pots that had been broken
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  • that Jeremiah talks about.
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  • And he took,
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  • he renewed me.
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  • Made me a new creature,
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  • which I think is like becoming a new soft piece of clay.
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  • And about the potter and the vessel that was broken,
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  • it says that the potter reworked it into a vessel
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  • that he wanted it to be.
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  • And so if we really give ourselves to God,
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  • give ourselves over to him, there's nothing he can't do.
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  • He can change anything in your life,
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  • he can heal any brokenness that you have.
  • 00:12:38.070 --> 00:12:40.220
  • And it wasn't only the abuse from my dad,
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  • I mean, I started that, but,
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  • to be honest with you,
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  • when I felt that God was calling me to teach,
  • 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:50.000
  • it was not a popular thing for a woman to teach.
  • 00:12:50.000 --> 00:12:53.160
  • And especially in the church circles that I was in,
  • 00:12:53.160 --> 00:12:56.290
  • it was unheard of.
  • 00:12:56.290 --> 00:12:58.190
  • And so I was all excited,
  • 00:12:58.190 --> 00:13:02.070
  • and I thought everybody else would be excited for me too,
  • 00:13:02.070 --> 00:13:05.110
  • but they weren't.
  • 00:13:05.110 --> 00:13:07.060
  • So that was like,
  • 00:13:07.060 --> 00:13:08.240
  • what my dad did to me was one type of wounded-ness
  • 00:13:10.070 --> 00:13:13.100
  • and brokenhearted-ness,
  • 00:13:13.100 --> 00:13:14.150
  • but the way people responded to me stepping out in faith,
  • 00:13:15.290 --> 00:13:20.250
  • because I believed God,
  • 00:13:23.110 --> 00:13:25.000
  • that was one of the biggest hurts I've ever had in my life.
  • 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.150
  • - Did you have a mentor back then
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  • that you saw doing what you felt you were called to do?
  • 00:13:30.220 --> 00:13:34.160
  • - [Joyce] No.
  • 00:13:34.160 --> 00:13:35.240
  • - So you just felt, I'm supposed to get my Bible
  • 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.210
  • and start teaching out of my Bible?
  • 00:13:39.210 --> 00:13:42.140
  • - Actually my ministry,
  • 00:13:42.140 --> 00:13:44.040
  • (chuckling)
  • 00:13:44.040 --> 00:13:46.270
  • it's really just downright ridiculous.
  • 00:13:46.270 --> 00:13:49.220
  • Because, I mean, I just,
  • 00:13:49.220 --> 00:13:52.020
  • I loved God from the time I was a kid.
  • 00:13:52.020 --> 00:13:54.270
  • I was born again when I was nine years old.
  • 00:13:54.270 --> 00:13:57.140
  • Don't know how I even knew that I needed to be born again
  • 00:13:57.140 --> 00:14:00.030
  • except I had a grandfather that prayed for me.
  • 00:14:00.030 --> 00:14:02.290
  • And one night when my dad was out getting drunk,
  • 00:14:02.290 --> 00:14:05.230
  • I snuck off to church with some relatives,
  • 00:14:05.230 --> 00:14:08.160
  • and I went to get saved.
  • 00:14:08.160 --> 00:14:11.220
  • And that night the pastor forgot to have an altar call.
  • 00:14:13.040 --> 00:14:16.080
  • (audience groans) And I was so disappointed.
  • 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.220
  • And two of my cousins were with me,
  • 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:21.170
  • 'cause I went with their family.
  • 00:14:21.170 --> 00:14:23.230
  • And I grabbed them both by the hand and I said,
  • 00:14:23.230 --> 00:14:25.230
  • come on, we're gonna go get saved.
  • 00:14:25.230 --> 00:14:27.200
  • So I guess even back then I was determined
  • 00:14:29.010 --> 00:14:30.270
  • to take a few people with me.
  • 00:14:30.270 --> 00:14:32.100
  • And I look back and I don't,
  • 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:36.210
  • it couldn't have been anything other than the grace of God
  • 00:14:36.210 --> 00:14:40.070
  • that I was bold enough,
  • 00:14:40.070 --> 00:14:43.110
  • I mean, I didn't know what I was doing.
  • 00:14:43.110 --> 00:14:45.200
  • But I didn't know I didn't know what I was doing.
  • 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.150
  • I remember when I felt like God put it on my heart
  • 00:14:48.150 --> 00:14:52.110
  • to start a Bible study,
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  • I said well I don't know how to teach.
  • 00:14:54.250 --> 00:14:57.060
  • And he said, I do.
  • 00:14:57.060 --> 00:14:58.110
  • And so, I started with 12 women.
  • 00:14:59.210 --> 00:15:02.260
  • All of them worked for me.
  • 00:15:04.140 --> 00:15:06.110
  • I didn't realize, because I was the office manager,
  • 00:15:06.110 --> 00:15:08.190
  • that they would all feel obligated to come.
  • 00:15:08.190 --> 00:15:10.290
  • (audience chuckling)
  • 00:15:10.290 --> 00:15:12.070
  • But hey, however you can get a crowd, so.
  • 00:15:12.070 --> 00:15:14.110
  • (laughter)
  • 00:15:14.110 --> 00:15:17.010
  • 12 women, six a.m. on a Wednesday morning
  • 00:15:17.010 --> 00:15:20.030
  • we met in a restaurant downtown,
  • 00:15:20.030 --> 00:15:23.080
  • and I went to my pastor of the church
  • 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.040
  • where I was going to at the time and I said,
  • 00:15:26.040 --> 00:15:27.200
  • if somebody was gonna teach a Bible study,
  • 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.100
  • where would they start?
  • 00:15:29.100 --> 00:15:31.020
  • And he said oh, the Book of John would be good.
  • 00:15:31.020 --> 00:15:33.140
  • And I said, what would you use for study material?
  • 00:15:33.140 --> 00:15:36.000
  • And he suggested a Thompson Chain Reference Bible.
  • 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:39.090
  • And so all I had when I started was the Bible,
  • 00:15:40.140 --> 00:15:43.120
  • and I chose an Amplified Bible.
  • 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:45.230
  • And the Thompson Chain Reference Bible,
  • 00:15:45.230 --> 00:15:49.020
  • and eventually then I added a Vines Expository Dictionary
  • 00:15:49.020 --> 00:15:52.280
  • and a Strong's Concordance.
  • 00:15:52.280 --> 00:15:54.220
  • And I would kind of take my own life
  • 00:15:54.220 --> 00:15:58.200
  • and things that I was going through
  • 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:01.040
  • or that God was dealing with me about,
  • 00:16:01.040 --> 00:16:03.050
  • and I would study those things out for myself.
  • 00:16:03.050 --> 00:16:06.170
  • And then teach them to other people.
  • 00:16:07.210 --> 00:16:11.020
  • I mean all I can really say is God anointed me to do it,
  • 00:16:11.020 --> 00:16:13.280
  • I mean there's no -- - Yeah, that's obvious.
  • 00:16:13.280 --> 00:16:15.280
  • - I mean I didn't, I don't have the education to do this,
  • 00:16:15.280 --> 00:16:18.030
  • I don't,
  • 00:16:18.030 --> 00:16:19.190
  • I mean, I'm not dumb by any stretch of the imagination,
  • 00:16:19.190 --> 00:16:21.260
  • but I'm not extraordinarily brilliant.
  • 00:16:21.260 --> 00:16:24.220
  • I just have a lot of common sense, I love God,
  • 00:16:24.220 --> 00:16:28.230
  • and I was willing to do what I thought he asked me to do.
  • 00:16:28.230 --> 00:16:33.210
  • And I kept trying to get around other preachers
  • 00:16:34.260 --> 00:16:36.230
  • so I could ask them a bunch of questions
  • 00:16:36.230 --> 00:16:38.170
  • about what I was to do and how to do this.
  • 00:16:38.170 --> 00:16:41.080
  • And I tell you what, no way,
  • 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:42.210
  • no how could I meet with anybody.
  • 00:16:42.210 --> 00:16:44.240
  • First of all, nobody knew me,
  • 00:16:44.240 --> 00:16:45.290
  • they didn't care about meeting with me.
  • 00:16:45.290 --> 00:16:47.280
  • God finally showed me,
  • 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:51.230
  • I don't want you to be a copycat of somebody else.
  • 00:16:51.230 --> 00:16:53.220
  • - Wow.
  • 00:16:53.220 --> 00:16:55.000
  • - You do what I'm showing you to do,
  • 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:57.140
  • and it'll work out.
  • 00:16:57.140 --> 00:16:58.270
  • - Wow.
  • 00:16:58.270 --> 00:17:00.120
  • - And man, if you would've been around for the early days.
  • 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:04.020
  • I mean, it was,
  • 00:17:04.020 --> 00:17:05.050
  • first of all,
  • 00:17:06.100 --> 00:17:07.180
  • for five years I taught two home Bible studies.
  • 00:17:07.180 --> 00:17:10.010
  • Then I went to work at a church that I worked at
  • 00:17:10.010 --> 00:17:12.210
  • for five years, and I became an associate pastor there
  • 00:17:12.210 --> 00:17:15.290
  • and I did a lot of the preaching when the pastor was gone,
  • 00:17:15.290 --> 00:17:18.020
  • I had a weekly women's meeting there
  • 00:17:18.020 --> 00:17:20.110
  • that grew to about four, 500,
  • 00:17:20.110 --> 00:17:22.240
  • which is a bit large for a women's meeting.
  • 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:26.100
  • And so,
  • 00:17:26.100 --> 00:17:27.080
  • I could see what God had put in my heart coming to pass,
  • 00:17:28.220 --> 00:17:32.290
  • and eventually,
  • 00:17:32.290 --> 00:17:34.010
  • God told me I had to leave there
  • 00:17:35.110 --> 00:17:36.230
  • and go north, south, east and west.
  • 00:17:36.230 --> 00:17:38.100
  • The thing was was nobody knew me north, south, east or west.
  • 00:17:38.100 --> 00:17:41.110
  • (Laurie laughs)
  • 00:17:41.110 --> 00:17:42.090
  • Dave and I were talking about
  • 00:17:42.090 --> 00:17:43.220
  • how we used to drive up here to Chicago,
  • 00:17:43.220 --> 00:17:45.220
  • when driving was the only way that we could go anywhere,
  • 00:17:47.040 --> 00:17:49.210
  • to get anywhere.
  • 00:17:49.210 --> 00:17:51.040
  • And our first van that we bought cost 16 hundred dollars,
  • 00:17:51.040 --> 00:17:55.010
  • Dave saved the money for it.
  • 00:17:55.010 --> 00:17:56.230
  • It had rusty wheel wells and bald tires,
  • 00:17:56.230 --> 00:18:01.120
  • and first we'd carry our, back then our tapes,
  • 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:05.130
  • our teaching tapes in the back of this van,
  • 00:18:05.130 --> 00:18:08.060
  • and then we finally got this little bubble trailer,
  • 00:18:08.060 --> 00:18:10.290
  • we'd pull behind this thing.
  • 00:18:10.290 --> 00:18:13.000
  • And we'd go and have, we were on radio.
  • 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:15.260
  • After that we started on radio.
  • 00:18:15.260 --> 00:18:18.010
  • And when we'd get a big enough crowd in an area,
  • 00:18:18.010 --> 00:18:20.130
  • we would go to that area if we could drive to it
  • 00:18:20.130 --> 00:18:23.180
  • and have a meeting there.
  • 00:18:23.180 --> 00:18:25.060
  • And it was me and Dave and a sound man,
  • 00:18:25.060 --> 00:18:28.020
  • and one man that was the musician,
  • 00:18:28.020 --> 00:18:31.130
  • and he could play guitar, play piano,
  • 00:18:31.130 --> 00:18:35.170
  • and play a drum machine with his foot.
  • 00:18:35.170 --> 00:18:38.260
  • (chuckling)
  • 00:18:38.260 --> 00:18:40.170
  • And so, he was the band.
  • 00:18:40.170 --> 00:18:43.050
  • But you know the thing that's so funny is,
  • 00:18:43.050 --> 00:18:45.140
  • if God's anointed something, you just not gonna stop it.
  • 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:48.090
  • - Right, right. - Amen, yeah.
  • 00:18:48.090 --> 00:18:49.180
  • - And I mean,
  • 00:18:49.180 --> 00:18:50.150
  • I mean, nobody knows it now, but our first TV show,
  • 00:18:52.060 --> 00:18:56.030
  • was filmed in a little room, little ballroom.
  • 00:18:56.030 --> 00:19:01.010
  • Do you remember what town we were in, Dave?
  • 00:19:01.010 --> 00:19:03.110
  • - It was um, Cleveland, Ohio, I think.
  • 00:19:03.110 --> 00:19:05.230
  • - Okay he said Cleveland, Ohio.
  • 00:19:05.230 --> 00:19:07.250
  • But you know what our backdrop was?
  • 00:19:07.250 --> 00:19:10.190
  • A blue shower curtain.
  • 00:19:10.190 --> 00:19:12.000
  • (laughter)
  • 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:13.010
  • - Welcome to our world. - Jeez.
  • 00:19:13.010 --> 00:19:15.040
  • - A blue shower curtain, and we had one camera.
  • 00:19:15.040 --> 00:19:18.060
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:19:18.060 --> 00:19:19.230
  • - And I remember one of the first big stations we got on
  • 00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:22.220
  • was WGN out of Chicago here,
  • 00:19:22.220 --> 00:19:25.010
  • and the first show that hit the air we got 125 phone calls,
  • 00:19:25.010 --> 00:19:28.100
  • we thought we had died and gone to heaven.
  • 00:19:28.100 --> 00:19:30.030
  • - Wow, sure. - My goodness.
  • 00:19:30.030 --> 00:19:31.190
  • - I mean we just thought we had died and gone to heaven.
  • 00:19:31.190 --> 00:19:33.240
  • And we built up a pretty decent audience on WGN
  • 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:38.090
  • and then they changed their program and took us off the air.
  • 00:19:38.090 --> 00:19:41.060
  • And I just, oh, I was brokenhearted,
  • 00:19:41.060 --> 00:19:42.220
  • I thought oh my god, what are we gonna do now,
  • 00:19:42.220 --> 00:19:44.160
  • what are we gonna do now.
  • 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:46.160
  • And I was bitter about it at first,
  • 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:49.080
  • it was like, well we built a good audience on that time,
  • 00:19:49.080 --> 00:19:51.230
  • and now they're taking the time.
  • 00:19:51.230 --> 00:19:54.130
  • And we were in church and it was offering time,
  • 00:19:54.130 --> 00:19:58.130
  • and God spoke to me, I want you to give that hurt to me.
  • 00:19:58.130 --> 00:20:02.100
  • I want you to put it in the offering basket,
  • 00:20:02.100 --> 00:20:05.020
  • and just give the whole situation to me.
  • 00:20:05.020 --> 00:20:07.120
  • And so I pretended like I was putting that wound
  • 00:20:07.120 --> 00:20:12.120
  • in the offering basket, and a few months went by,
  • 00:20:13.260 --> 00:20:16.150
  • and they called us back and asked us to go on daily.
  • 00:20:16.150 --> 00:20:20.120
  • - Jeez. - Oh my goodness.
  • 00:20:20.120 --> 00:20:21.290
  • - If you just do -- - Yeah.
  • 00:20:21.290 --> 00:20:24.160
  • - The simple, childlike things,
  • 00:20:24.160 --> 00:20:28.060
  • that a lot of times don't even make any sense to you,
  • 00:20:30.010 --> 00:20:32.260
  • let alone trying to explain it to somebody else.
  • 00:20:32.260 --> 00:20:35.110
  • But Dave and I talk all the time about the early days.
  • 00:20:35.110 --> 00:20:40.070
  • He'd set up the resources and sell them,
  • 00:20:40.070 --> 00:20:43.120
  • and he'd tear them down, load the truck up.
  • 00:20:43.120 --> 00:20:45.200
  • - Duplicate tapes?
  • 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:46.290
  • Did you do that, too?
  • 00:20:46.290 --> 00:20:48.060
  • (laughs)
  • 00:20:48.060 --> 00:20:49.200
  • - No, we had somebody else that did that, but we,
  • 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.050
  • we didn't even have the money to stay in a hotel,
  • 00:20:51.050 --> 00:20:52.260
  • and so we would drive home and sometimes
  • 00:20:52.260 --> 00:20:55.000
  • he'd have to pull over in a McDonalds parking lot
  • 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:58.110
  • just to get a little bit of sleep so we could drive on home.
  • 00:20:58.110 --> 00:21:02.020
  • And so, I always tell people,
  • 00:21:02.020 --> 00:21:04.080
  • don't be jealous of what somebody's got
  • 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:06.040
  • if you don't wanna do what they did to get it.
  • 00:21:06.040 --> 00:21:07.160
  • - Right. - Wow.
  • 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:08.120
  • (applause)
  • 00:21:09.130 --> 00:21:11.290
  • - We are in Chicago.
  • 00:21:11.290 --> 00:21:13.130
  • In a lot of ways, at least your daily ministry,
  • 00:21:15.190 --> 00:21:19.180
  • started right here in Chicago on WGN.
  • 00:21:19.180 --> 00:21:22.240
  • If you just tuned in, we're in Chicago.
  • 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:24.190
  • - Anybody here ever watch that program?
  • 00:21:24.190 --> 00:21:26.190
  • - These sweet people are from Chicago.
  • 00:21:26.190 --> 00:21:30.000
  • (cheering and applause)
  • 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:33.070
  • - How many countries and languages --
  • 00:21:35.150 --> 00:21:39.140
  • - Are you in right now? - Yeah.
  • 00:21:39.140 --> 00:21:40.290
  • - I mean, all over the world, it's everywhere we go.
  • 00:21:40.290 --> 00:21:45.210
  • - We're on in over 100 languages.
  • 00:21:45.210 --> 00:21:47.110
  • - 100 languages. - Amazing.
  • 00:21:47.110 --> 00:21:49.290
  • - And in,
  • 00:21:49.290 --> 00:21:51.120
  • I don't really know.
  • 00:21:51.120 --> 00:21:52.260
  • I know we're covering about two thirds of the world,
  • 00:21:52.260 --> 00:21:54.230
  • is what they tell us.
  • 00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:55.290
  • - Yeah. - Yeah, that's amazing.
  • 00:21:55.290 --> 00:21:57.150
  • - And that's a few billion people, so.
  • 00:21:57.150 --> 00:22:00.070
  • - [Matt] Unbelievable.
  • 00:22:00.070 --> 00:22:01.120
  • - Anyway, like I said, it's ridiculous.
  • 00:22:01.120 --> 00:22:02.240
  • - You know, the interesting thing about
  • 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:06.010
  • Healing the Soul of a Woman, this devotional,
  • 00:22:06.010 --> 00:22:08.230
  • is really the author that wrote it.
  • 00:22:08.230 --> 00:22:10.250
  • Because your journey has been kind of like,
  • 00:22:10.250 --> 00:22:14.230
  • we wanna go to the best doctor, we wanna go to the,
  • 00:22:16.170 --> 00:22:19.200
  • if you have a legal issue, you want the best lawyer.
  • 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:23.110
  • And here we have somebody that you had to come a long way.
  • 00:22:23.110 --> 00:22:26.290
  • You were really pioneering your way through.
  • 00:22:26.290 --> 00:22:29.290
  • Your story, in a lot of ways, there's some similarities.
  • 00:22:29.290 --> 00:22:34.110
  • My mom went to Sears and bought a blue shower curtain
  • 00:22:34.110 --> 00:22:37.220
  • to put up behind as our first set, we had one camera.
  • 00:22:37.220 --> 00:22:41.150
  • We'd have to put a card in front of the lens
  • 00:22:41.150 --> 00:22:44.050
  • and then pan the camera over and then drop the card
  • 00:22:44.050 --> 00:22:46.180
  • like that to show the music set over there.
  • 00:22:46.180 --> 00:22:50.080
  • And so,
  • 00:22:50.080 --> 00:22:51.210
  • but when God speaks something into existence,
  • 00:22:51.210 --> 00:22:54.240
  • that's the difference, is,
  • 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:56.180
  • you're not building your own thing,
  • 00:22:56.180 --> 00:22:58.240
  • you're building what God breathed upon.
  • 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.280
  • - That and there's so, there's so much,
  • 00:23:00.280 --> 00:23:03.250
  • obedience.
  • 00:23:06.050 --> 00:23:07.150
  • - [Laurie] Yeah.
  • 00:23:07.150 --> 00:23:08.290
  • - Along the way, it's like,
  • 00:23:08.290 --> 00:23:10.290
  • God does everything in stages, or layers.
  • 00:23:12.070 --> 00:23:16.000
  • And so, I was faithful to those five home Bible studies,
  • 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:20.170
  • and I didn't get paid for that, and Dave and I,
  • 00:23:20.170 --> 00:23:22.280
  • I quit a full time job to study for my ministry
  • 00:23:24.030 --> 00:23:28.100
  • that I thought I was gonna have that, you know,
  • 00:23:28.100 --> 00:23:31.140
  • the devil would scream in my ear all the time,
  • 00:23:31.140 --> 00:23:33.080
  • you really think this is gonna happen, you're a fool.
  • 00:23:33.080 --> 00:23:35.270
  • Something I wanted to say earlier, I was talking about,
  • 00:23:37.240 --> 00:23:40.020
  • people have to let God into those wounds.
  • 00:23:40.020 --> 00:23:43.270
  • See some of you, you've kept these wounds so closed up,
  • 00:23:43.270 --> 00:23:47.020
  • so private between you and nobody else,
  • 00:23:47.020 --> 00:23:51.020
  • that you haven't really let God into them.
  • 00:23:51.020 --> 00:23:55.040
  • And we have to let God into these wounds and hurts.
  • 00:23:55.040 --> 00:23:57.290
  • And before I ever started,
  • 00:23:57.290 --> 00:24:00.140
  • well, I was teaching the home Bible studies.
  • 00:24:00.140 --> 00:24:02.190
  • And we went to a meeting and there was a woman there
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  • who had been abused by her father.
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  • And she was telling her story.
  • 00:24:08.260 --> 00:24:12.000
  • And Dave bought me her book,
  • 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:15.080
  • which I didn't really appreciate the gift.
  • 00:24:16.130 --> 00:24:19.160
  • Because when I started reading it, I'll never forget,
  • 00:24:20.260 --> 00:24:23.270
  • I was sitting, and I started to read the book,
  • 00:24:23.270 --> 00:24:26.280
  • and she was describing things that happened to me.
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  • That I had stuck so far down in my soul,
  • 00:24:31.110 --> 00:24:34.140
  • and that reading her story, that pain,
  • 00:24:35.210 --> 00:24:39.260
  • just started coming up out of me.
  • 00:24:39.260 --> 00:24:41.110
  • And I took that book and I threw it across the room
  • 00:24:41.110 --> 00:24:43.070
  • and I said out loud, I will not read this.
  • 00:24:43.070 --> 00:24:46.120
  • And the Lord very simply said to me, it's time.
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  • And see, one of the things I want to make sure
  • 00:24:51.230 --> 00:24:53.260
  • that everybody knows today is,
  • 00:24:53.260 --> 00:24:55.080
  • your journey is a personal journey.
  • 00:24:55.080 --> 00:24:57.180
  • - [Laurie] Right.
  • 00:24:57.180 --> 00:24:58.240
  • - Everybody's is a little bit different.
  • 00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:02.130
  • And that's why it's so important
  • 00:25:02.130 --> 00:25:03.250
  • that the Holy Spirit is involved in leading your journey.
  • 00:25:03.250 --> 00:25:08.150
  • Even if he sends you
  • 00:25:08.150 --> 00:25:09.210
  • for some kind of professional counseling,
  • 00:25:09.210 --> 00:25:12.120
  • that idea needs to come from God.
  • 00:25:12.120 --> 00:25:14.160
  • Because whatever he points you to will work for you.
  • 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:20.170
  • That was not anything that I could afford,
  • 00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:22.270
  • it wasn't even an option for me back then.
  • 00:25:22.270 --> 00:25:26.010
  • And I can honestly say that I was healed
  • 00:25:26.010 --> 00:25:30.140
  • through the word of God,
  • 00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:33.050
  • and just by the Holy Spirit working in my life.
  • 00:25:33.050 --> 00:25:37.030
  • But there were thousands of little obediences.
  • 00:25:37.030 --> 00:25:41.020
  • Like,
  • 00:25:44.070 --> 00:25:45.020
  • I mean, I'd fight with Dave all the time about everything.
  • 00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:49.220
  • God would tell me and I'd go make peace.
  • 00:25:49.220 --> 00:25:51.260
  • I was like... (Laurie chuckling)
  • 00:25:51.260 --> 00:25:55.160
  • Surely it's his turn, I said I was sorry the last.
  • 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:58.240
  • (laughter)
  • 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:00.180
  • You know, we do such childish things.
  • 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:02.240
  • Our God was always dealing with me about something.
  • 00:26:04.070 --> 00:26:06.220
  • I mean, I just felt like every day
  • 00:26:06.220 --> 00:26:08.100
  • there was a new thing we found wrong with Joyce.
  • 00:26:08.100 --> 00:26:10.220
  • Go ahead, you ever feel like that, that,
  • 00:26:12.150 --> 00:26:14.110
  • you know, can there really be that much wrong with me?
  • 00:26:14.110 --> 00:26:17.060
  • And I remember going to Dave one time
  • 00:26:17.060 --> 00:26:19.050
  • when I was going through a really really rough time,
  • 00:26:19.050 --> 00:26:22.100
  • God just dealing with me and dealing with me
  • 00:26:22.100 --> 00:26:24.040
  • about changes, well I thought Dave needed to change, too.
  • 00:26:24.040 --> 00:26:27.050
  • I didn't think that I was the only problem
  • 00:26:27.050 --> 00:26:29.010
  • in the marriage, I thought he needed to change too.
  • 00:26:29.010 --> 00:26:31.150
  • And I remember going to him, it's so funny now, and I said,
  • 00:26:31.150 --> 00:26:35.060
  • I was just wondering,
  • 00:26:35.060 --> 00:26:36.220
  • has God been dealing with you about anything lately?
  • 00:26:36.220 --> 00:26:38.050
  • (Matt and Laurie laugh)
  • 00:26:38.050 --> 00:26:39.090
  • That's what I said,
  • 00:26:39.090 --> 00:26:40.250
  • has God been dealing with you about anything lately?
  • 00:26:40.250 --> 00:26:42.050
  • He said, mm,
  • 00:26:42.050 --> 00:26:43.100
  • no, I don't think so.
  • 00:26:44.080 --> 00:26:45.180
  • (laughter)
  • 00:26:45.180 --> 00:26:47.260
  • And I could go,
  • 00:26:48.270 --> 00:26:51.140
  • on the flight home, I could say,
  • 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:54.110
  • Dave, what is your greatest weakness,
  • 00:26:54.110 --> 00:26:56.190
  • and he'd say, uh, I don't know.
  • 00:26:56.190 --> 00:27:00.020
  • Because he's --
  • 00:27:00.020 --> 00:27:01.050
  • - [Laurie] Let me tell ya.
  • 00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:02.000
  • - He doesn't,
  • 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:02.250
  • he doesn't think like that, you know?
  • 00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:06.120
  • He gets his forgiveness, he goes on, he forgets it, and,
  • 00:27:06.120 --> 00:27:10.120
  • peace is his mode of operation, and mine was war.
  • 00:27:10.120 --> 00:27:15.040
  • I grew up in a household where you got your way
  • 00:27:16.090 --> 00:27:19.000
  • by fighting and arguing and throwing temper tantrums
  • 00:27:19.000 --> 00:27:23.040
  • 'til you got what you wanted,
  • 00:27:23.040 --> 00:27:24.160
  • and I had to unlearn all those bad things
  • 00:27:24.160 --> 00:27:28.100
  • that I had learned.
  • 00:27:28.100 --> 00:27:29.260
  • - Yeah, I think, before you get into that story,
  • 00:27:29.260 --> 00:27:32.080
  • I was gonna give Dave a hug.
  • 00:27:32.080 --> 00:27:33.230
  • Yeah, just real quick, just come here Dave.
  • 00:27:33.230 --> 00:27:35.290
  • Come here, Dave. (laughter)
  • 00:27:35.290 --> 00:27:37.080
  • (applause)
  • 00:27:37.080 --> 00:27:39.000
  • - Hey, man, all right. (Dave laughing)
  • 00:27:39.000 --> 00:27:44.000
  • - [Joyce] Listen, tell him how good you got it.
  • 00:27:45.050 --> 00:27:47.110
  • - [Matt] Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:27:47.110 --> 00:27:48.150
  • (laughing)
  • 00:27:48.150 --> 00:27:49.130
  • - Haven't figured it out yet.
  • 00:27:49.130 --> 00:27:50.220
  • - [Joyce] You haven't figured it out yet.
  • 00:27:50.220 --> 00:27:51.260
  • - So, first of all,
  • 00:27:51.260 --> 00:27:53.130
  • we are talking about Healing the Soul of a Woman Devotional,
  • 00:27:53.130 --> 00:27:56.080
  • and go ahead in your story.
  • 00:27:56.080 --> 00:27:57.260
  • - Well, talking about this little thing about obedience.
  • 00:27:59.080 --> 00:28:03.160
  • There's things in the Bible that God tells us to do
  • 00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.250
  • and not to do,
  • 00:28:05.250 --> 00:28:07.070
  • but we all have little things that God speaks to us.
  • 00:28:07.070 --> 00:28:10.280
  • That are personal things.
  • 00:28:12.110 --> 00:28:14.020
  • And I believe with all my heart that,
  • 00:28:14.020 --> 00:28:18.100
  • if you're having real issues in an area,
  • 00:28:20.100 --> 00:28:22.260
  • say like you've been hurt, you've been wounded really bad,
  • 00:28:22.260 --> 00:28:26.000
  • you're really having a hard time forgiving,
  • 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:27.280
  • you're really having a hard time getting over it.
  • 00:28:27.280 --> 00:28:30.210
  • I believe if you ask God to heal you,
  • 00:28:30.210 --> 00:28:33.240
  • and I really believe this,
  • 00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:35.090
  • if you let him into that place in your life,
  • 00:28:36.130 --> 00:28:39.070
  • and it's gonna be a little bit painful because to open,
  • 00:28:40.200 --> 00:28:43.200
  • you know, it's our secrets that make us sick.
  • 00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:46.190
  • And so when you have all these secrets and these things,
  • 00:28:46.190 --> 00:28:49.160
  • first of all, God knows it anyway, so,
  • 00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.020
  • there's no harm in talking to him about it.
  • 00:28:52.020 --> 00:28:54.090
  • But when you start talking about it,
  • 00:28:54.090 --> 00:28:56.260
  • that's what helps get it out of you.
  • 00:28:56.260 --> 00:28:59.170
  • Helps bring it to the surface.
  • 00:28:59.170 --> 00:29:01.260
  • But there will be many things that God will show you to do
  • 00:29:01.260 --> 00:29:06.260
  • along the way.
  • 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:11.150
  • And he'll always give you the grace to do them,
  • 00:29:11.150 --> 00:29:13.010
  • God will never tell you to do something
  • 00:29:13.010 --> 00:29:16.050
  • without giving you the help to do it.
  • 00:29:16.050 --> 00:29:19.240
  • And it's important to do it when God asks you to do it,
  • 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:24.080
  • because I believe that when we move in God's timing,
  • 00:29:24.080 --> 00:29:27.100
  • there's a much stronger anointing on something
  • 00:29:27.100 --> 00:29:30.150
  • than if we decide to do it when we feel like it.
  • 00:29:30.150 --> 00:29:32.190
  • But I did a conference one time,
  • 00:29:32.190 --> 00:29:34.260
  • and it was one where people were sitting at round tables,
  • 00:29:34.260 --> 00:29:37.140
  • 'cause there were meals at this conference.
  • 00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:39.260
  • And I was talking about some of this stuff
  • 00:29:39.260 --> 00:29:41.280
  • about being healed from your past.
  • 00:29:41.280 --> 00:29:44.190
  • And a girl came to me at the very end of the conference,
  • 00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:47.070
  • it was like a three day conference, I think.
  • 00:29:47.070 --> 00:29:49.160
  • And she said well I know now why I've never been healed,
  • 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.070
  • and I said why?
  • 00:29:52.070 --> 00:29:53.230
  • And she said, I was sitting at a table with five ladies,
  • 00:29:53.230 --> 00:29:56.260
  • and all of them had been hurt
  • 00:29:56.260 --> 00:29:59.200
  • in basically the same way I had.
  • 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:02.150
  • And all of them were healed.
  • 00:30:02.150 --> 00:30:05.120
  • And she said, God told me the exact same things
  • 00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:08.180
  • that he told all of them, the only difference was,
  • 00:30:08.180 --> 00:30:11.050
  • they did it, and I didn't.
  • 00:30:11.050 --> 00:30:13.000
  • - My goodness. - Wow.
  • 00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:14.020
  • - Wow.
  • 00:30:14.290 --> 00:30:16.000
  • - I want that to have an impact.
  • 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:20.150
  • Because everything that God asks us to do is not easy,
  • 00:30:20.150 --> 00:30:23.140
  • forgiving people that treated you bad,
  • 00:30:23.140 --> 00:30:27.150
  • especially when they're not even sorry.
  • 00:30:27.150 --> 00:30:29.130
  • It's a hard thing to do.
  • 00:30:31.030 --> 00:30:33.290
  • But God's ways work.
  • 00:30:33.290 --> 00:30:36.270
  • - Yes. - Amen.
  • 00:30:36.270 --> 00:30:38.050
  • - And so it's not about just reading your Bible.
  • 00:30:38.050 --> 00:30:40.260
  • The Bible says, if you continue in my word,
  • 00:30:40.260 --> 00:30:42.240
  • you'll know the truth and the truth will set you free.
  • 00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:44.280
  • But it's implied, without saying it,
  • 00:30:44.280 --> 00:30:48.030
  • that if this truth is applied to your life,
  • 00:30:48.030 --> 00:30:52.020
  • it will set you free.
  • 00:30:52.020 --> 00:30:53.230
  • It's not just knowing it,
  • 00:30:53.230 --> 00:30:55.260
  • or underlining it in your Bible that will set you free,
  • 00:30:55.260 --> 00:31:00.280
  • but if you apply that to your life, it will work.
  • 00:31:02.040 --> 00:31:06.010
  • And, there's nobody it won't work for.
  • 00:31:07.130 --> 00:31:11.010
  • It works for everybody.
  • 00:31:11.010 --> 00:31:13.040
  • Now some people it may take a little longer
  • 00:31:13.040 --> 00:31:15.130
  • for whatever reason, we don't know.
  • 00:31:15.130 --> 00:31:18.020
  • But Jesus died that we might have and enjoy life,
  • 00:31:18.020 --> 00:31:22.250
  • and have it in abundance, to the full, until it overflows.
  • 00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:27.240
  • You should've seen me when I got ahold of that truth
  • 00:31:29.090 --> 00:31:31.040
  • that Jesus wanted me to enjoy my life.
  • 00:31:31.040 --> 00:31:36.010
  • That was like a huge thing for me,
  • 00:31:37.060 --> 00:31:39.140
  • because when I was a kid,
  • 00:31:39.140 --> 00:31:40.180
  • I would get in trouble for laughing.
  • 00:31:40.180 --> 00:31:42.110
  • And I never was allowed to do things
  • 00:31:44.270 --> 00:31:46.290
  • that other kids were allowed to do.
  • 00:31:46.290 --> 00:31:49.010
  • I mean, I'd get in trouble for playing.
  • 00:31:49.010 --> 00:31:52.150
  • And so, everything for me was always deadly serious.
  • 00:31:53.290 --> 00:31:58.170
  • And I really never got to be a child.
  • 00:31:59.230 --> 00:32:02.260
  • And I'm not saying this,
  • 00:32:02.260 --> 00:32:04.120
  • I don't need pity, Lord, I'm,
  • 00:32:04.120 --> 00:32:06.130
  • I'm blessed coming in and going out.
  • 00:32:08.090 --> 00:32:10.130
  • But I did have it rough, and,
  • 00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:15.040
  • even like the thing about self-pity.
  • 00:32:16.080 --> 00:32:19.070
  • God spoke to me one day, I mean,
  • 00:32:19.070 --> 00:32:21.190
  • pity parties were my favorite thing to go to.
  • 00:32:21.190 --> 00:32:24.170
  • I mean I would just,
  • 00:32:24.170 --> 00:32:26.030
  • if Dave would go out and play golf,
  • 00:32:26.030 --> 00:32:27.200
  • I'd sit home crying, feel sorry for myself all day.
  • 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.170
  • If he was watching football and had the TV
  • 00:32:30.170 --> 00:32:33.230
  • and I was doing dishes,
  • 00:32:33.230 --> 00:32:35.280
  • then I would go feel sorry for myself all day.
  • 00:32:35.280 --> 00:32:40.280
  • And God finally told me, you can be pitiful,
  • 00:32:42.020 --> 00:32:43.180
  • or you can be powerful, but you can't be both,
  • 00:32:43.180 --> 00:32:46.010
  • so you're gonna have to choose what you want.
  • 00:32:46.010 --> 00:32:47.290
  • - [Matt] Wow, wow.
  • 00:32:47.290 --> 00:32:49.190
  • (applause)
  • 00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:50.260
  • - See I was already in ministry,
  • 00:32:50.260 --> 00:32:52.200
  • and I wanted the power of God flowing through my life.
  • 00:32:54.030 --> 00:32:57.180
  • But then, I'd have all these times
  • 00:32:59.040 --> 00:33:02.010
  • when I would give in to this self pity
  • 00:33:02.010 --> 00:33:03.240
  • and just sit around and feel sorry for myself.
  • 00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:06.140
  • And so I had to fight against that with God's help,
  • 00:33:06.140 --> 00:33:11.140
  • and resist it, and stand against it,
  • 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.200
  • and I wanna tell you something.
  • 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:17.060
  • And if you don't remember much else I said today,
  • 00:33:18.220 --> 00:33:20.180
  • please remember this.
  • 00:33:20.180 --> 00:33:21.220
  • When you're hurting.
  • 00:33:21.220 --> 00:33:22.290
  • When you've had a loss.
  • 00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:26.270
  • One of the best and the most powerful things that you can do
  • 00:33:28.100 --> 00:33:33.050
  • is go do something good for somebody else.
  • 00:33:33.050 --> 00:33:35.120
  • And I mean, you don't feel like it,
  • 00:33:37.090 --> 00:33:40.000
  • so you go do it on purpose.
  • 00:33:40.260 --> 00:33:43.100
  • I heard one time that somebody that we did business with
  • 00:33:44.220 --> 00:33:47.190
  • had been talking about me real bad.
  • 00:33:49.050 --> 00:33:51.230
  • And we gave him a lot of business.
  • 00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:54.070
  • And,
  • 00:33:54.070 --> 00:33:55.020
  • some of the people that worked for me were in a restaurant
  • 00:33:56.280 --> 00:33:59.050
  • and they were sitting behind these people in a booth.
  • 00:33:59.050 --> 00:34:01.260
  • I don't know why they thought they needed to tell me this,
  • 00:34:03.090 --> 00:34:05.090
  • but they told me.
  • 00:34:05.090 --> 00:34:07.280
  • Sometimes we're better off not to tell people things,
  • 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:09.280
  • but when I found out that they were talking bad about me,
  • 00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.050
  • she's phony, she's this, she's that, she's something else.
  • 00:34:15.180 --> 00:34:18.010
  • Well first of all, I got mad.
  • 00:34:19.060 --> 00:34:21.130
  • And I thought, well,
  • 00:34:21.130 --> 00:34:23.040
  • that's the last of our business they're getting,
  • 00:34:23.040 --> 00:34:25.110
  • they're not getting any more of our business,
  • 00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:27.000
  • and I'm gonna tell everybody else that I know
  • 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.190
  • not to do business with them.
  • 00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:30.120
  • So I'm laying in bed 'til like three o'clock
  • 00:34:30.120 --> 00:34:32.080
  • in the morning with all this,
  • 00:34:32.080 --> 00:34:33.140
  • I'm gonna do this, and I'm gonna do that,
  • 00:34:33.140 --> 00:34:34.260
  • and I'm gonna call them tomorrow, and I'm gonna do this.
  • 00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:37.080
  • At about three a.m. the Lord said,
  • 00:34:37.080 --> 00:34:38.060
  • you're not gonna do any of that.
  • 00:34:38.060 --> 00:34:40.020
  • - [Matt] Wow.
  • 00:34:40.020 --> 00:34:41.040
  • (Laurie laughing)
  • 00:34:42.150 --> 00:34:43.280
  • - Well what am I gonna do?
  • 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.070
  • You're gonna do what you tell other people to do,
  • 00:34:46.130 --> 00:34:47.240
  • you're gonna go buy him a gift
  • 00:34:47.240 --> 00:34:49.010
  • and tell him how much you appreciate him.
  • 00:34:49.010 --> 00:34:50.280
  • - [Matt] Oh, dear Lord.
  • 00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.080
  • (Matt and Laurie laughing) (applause)
  • 00:34:52.080 --> 00:34:55.150
  • - Well, I have to be honest and tell you that
  • 00:34:55.150 --> 00:34:58.180
  • I was so tempted to send them my book anonymously,
  • 00:35:00.030 --> 00:35:04.160
  • Me and My Big Mouth.
  • 00:35:04.160 --> 00:35:06.080
  • (laughter)
  • 00:35:06.080 --> 00:35:08.100
  • And then I wanted to send them a gift certificate
  • 00:35:08.100 --> 00:35:10.030
  • to the restaurant where they were talking about me.
  • 00:35:10.030 --> 00:35:12.160
  • If I was gonna have to do it,
  • 00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:14.130
  • I wanted to find some way to do it
  • 00:35:14.130 --> 00:35:16.140
  • where they would know that I knew,
  • 00:35:16.140 --> 00:35:18.140
  • and see how good I'm being, forgiving you.
  • 00:35:19.190 --> 00:35:23.070
  • - Wow.
  • 00:35:23.070 --> 00:35:24.200
  • - But I ended up writing them a letter of appreciation
  • 00:35:24.200 --> 00:35:26.260
  • and sent them four or five gift cards to eat out.
  • 00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:30.250
  • Just told them how much we appreciated them
  • 00:35:30.250 --> 00:35:32.200
  • and what a great job they'd done for us.
  • 00:35:32.200 --> 00:35:34.260
  • And the thing is is I was miserable
  • 00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:37.080
  • until I decided to do that.
  • 00:35:37.080 --> 00:35:39.100
  • The moment I decided to do that, I got my joy back.
  • 00:35:39.100 --> 00:35:42.140
  • (audience murmurs) - My goodness.
  • 00:35:42.140 --> 00:35:43.200
  • - I thought it was hilarious.
  • 00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:45.070
  • (applause)
  • 00:35:45.070 --> 00:35:47.070
  • - It took the power of that.
  • 00:35:47.070 --> 00:35:49.130
  • - [Joyce] The power of that.
  • 00:35:49.130 --> 00:35:50.230
  • - [Laurie] It broke the power of that.
  • 00:35:50.230 --> 00:35:52.080
  • - It broke the power of that, because when we obey God --
  • 00:35:52.080 --> 00:35:56.040
  • - [Laurie] Yeah, you overcome.
  • 00:35:56.040 --> 00:35:57.110
  • - The devil can't keep us unhappy.
  • 00:35:57.110 --> 00:35:58.170
  • - [Laurie] Right.
  • 00:35:58.170 --> 00:35:59.190
  • - When you obey God, and you,
  • 00:35:59.190 --> 00:36:02.180
  • and you know what?
  • 00:36:02.180 --> 00:36:04.010
  • The Bible said the little foxes spoil the vine,
  • 00:36:05.130 --> 00:36:07.070
  • but I'll be real honest with you, I think,
  • 00:36:07.070 --> 00:36:09.200
  • I don't think it's even the huge big things we do wrong
  • 00:36:11.040 --> 00:36:14.050
  • that are nearly as big a problem
  • 00:36:15.020 --> 00:36:17.160
  • as the little things that we do wrong and just ignore.
  • 00:36:17.160 --> 00:36:22.160
  • Don't really repent, 'cause we think it's no big deal.
  • 00:36:23.290 --> 00:36:28.030
  • If every Christian can learn,
  • 00:36:29.020 --> 00:36:32.090
  • before you want to obey God to go to Africa
  • 00:36:33.240 --> 00:36:36.200
  • and be a missionary,
  • 00:36:36.200 --> 00:36:37.230
  • start obeying him to go back and say I'm sorry
  • 00:36:39.070 --> 00:36:43.080
  • if you think maybe you hurt somebody's feelings.
  • 00:36:43.080 --> 00:36:45.290
  • - Wow.
  • 00:36:45.290 --> 00:36:47.120
  • - Or just the little things that you feel like
  • 00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:49.060
  • God puts on your heart to do.
  • 00:36:49.060 --> 00:36:52.020
  • Because if you get good at obeying God in little things,
  • 00:36:52.020 --> 00:36:54.230
  • you won't have any problem obeying him in big things.
  • 00:36:54.230 --> 00:36:59.220
  • And yes, we're still talking about
  • 00:36:59.220 --> 00:37:01.140
  • Healing the Soul of a Woman,
  • 00:37:01.140 --> 00:37:03.030
  • because it requires all these things
  • 00:37:03.030 --> 00:37:05.130
  • to be healthy in your soul.
  • 00:37:05.130 --> 00:37:07.070
  • - And,
  • 00:37:07.070 --> 00:37:09.130
  • I, me, personally, I have to hear this every day.
  • 00:37:09.130 --> 00:37:13.290
  • I have to consume the word of God every day.
  • 00:37:13.290 --> 00:37:18.090
  • And that's why I think,
  • 00:37:18.090 --> 00:37:20.010
  • I think we all, why do we need it, just,
  • 00:37:20.010 --> 00:37:22.100
  • why do we constantly need to hear that?
  • 00:37:22.100 --> 00:37:24.200
  • - Because, I mean, everything in the world,
  • 00:37:24.200 --> 00:37:28.180
  • all the stuff the devil's managing to do today.
  • 00:37:28.180 --> 00:37:31.290
  • I mean one day in the world just
  • 00:37:31.290 --> 00:37:33.150
  • sucks out everything you've got.
  • 00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:37.010
  • And we need, and thank God he's made it so easy.
  • 00:37:37.010 --> 00:37:40.290
  • - [Laurie] Yes.
  • 00:37:40.290 --> 00:37:42.020
  • - I mean I can get a good sermon
  • 00:37:42.020 --> 00:37:43.190
  • while I'm putting on my makeup now.
  • 00:37:43.190 --> 00:37:44.280
  • - [Laurie] Yes, thank you, Jesus.
  • 00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.050
  • - With podcasts and all the things
  • 00:37:46.050 --> 00:37:47.260
  • that are available to us,
  • 00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:49.170
  • there's really no excuse for anybody
  • 00:37:49.170 --> 00:37:52.130
  • to not get a pretty good steady,
  • 00:37:52.130 --> 00:37:54.250
  • and all the book that God's given us.
  • 00:37:54.250 --> 00:37:57.110
  • - [Laurie] And TBN.
  • 00:37:57.110 --> 00:37:58.250
  • - Yeah, TBN, yeah. (Matt laughing)
  • 00:37:58.250 --> 00:38:00.210
  • - Thank you.
  • 00:38:00.210 --> 00:38:01.160
  • - [Joyce] TBN.
  • 00:38:01.160 --> 00:38:02.220
  • (applause)
  • 00:38:02.220 --> 00:38:05.000
  • - Nice.
  • 00:38:05.000 --> 00:38:06.110
  • (Laurie laughing)
  • 00:38:06.110 --> 00:38:07.230
  • - You're not usually doing the commercials.
  • 00:38:07.230 --> 00:38:10.070
  • Okay. - I can, you want me to?
  • 00:38:10.070 --> 00:38:12.200
  • - Healing the Soul of a Woman Devotional,
  • 00:38:12.200 --> 00:38:14.140
  • this is different, it's a 90 day devotional,
  • 00:38:14.140 --> 00:38:16.290
  • it's a little bit different.
  • 00:38:16.290 --> 00:38:18.280
  • This is available by going to the information on the screen,
  • 00:38:18.280 --> 00:38:23.080
  • and we want you to get it.
  • 00:38:23.080 --> 00:38:25.100
  • Okay, Joyce, you know, we,
  • 00:38:25.100 --> 00:38:28.070
  • so far we've talked a little bit,
  • 00:38:28.070 --> 00:38:30.120
  • I mean summarizing a touch,
  • 00:38:30.120 --> 00:38:31.240
  • that we've talked about the idea that
  • 00:38:31.240 --> 00:38:35.060
  • this has been your journey,
  • 00:38:35.060 --> 00:38:36.290
  • that all of these things are practical teaching
  • 00:38:36.290 --> 00:38:39.100
  • which is what we know you to do.
  • 00:38:39.100 --> 00:38:41.270
  • And I've given Dave a hug and gotten him some support.
  • 00:38:41.270 --> 00:38:46.270
  • But basically --
  • 00:38:47.150 --> 00:38:49.040
  • - [Joyce] Dave does good.
  • 00:38:49.040 --> 00:38:50.100
  • - He does, he does great.
  • 00:38:50.100 --> 00:38:51.270
  • In the last 20 minutes or so,
  • 00:38:52.260 --> 00:38:54.150
  • why don't we grab a couple of the subjects
  • 00:38:54.150 --> 00:38:57.130
  • that you feel led to do and jump into a subject
  • 00:38:57.130 --> 00:39:00.140
  • that might be something popping out in your mind right now.
  • 00:39:00.140 --> 00:39:03.180
  • - All right, how about setting boundaries.
  • 00:39:03.180 --> 00:39:05.060
  • - Got it. - Yes, I like this.
  • 00:39:05.060 --> 00:39:06.210
  • - People that have been wounded,
  • 00:39:06.210 --> 00:39:09.050
  • we either do one of two things.
  • 00:39:11.010 --> 00:39:13.160
  • We either let people take advantage of us,
  • 00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:18.150
  • because we're so afraid nobody's gonna like us
  • 00:39:19.210 --> 00:39:21.220
  • that we are afraid to say no to anybody.
  • 00:39:21.220 --> 00:39:25.000
  • Or, we turn it the other way around
  • 00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:29.000
  • and we try to take advantage of everybody else
  • 00:39:29.000 --> 00:39:31.080
  • because we feel like we'll never have anything
  • 00:39:31.080 --> 00:39:33.100
  • if we don't stay on top all the time.
  • 00:39:33.100 --> 00:39:36.230
  • I came out of my abuse very aggressive.
  • 00:39:37.260 --> 00:39:41.150
  • Like, nobody's ever gonna push me around again,
  • 00:39:41.150 --> 00:39:43.280
  • and no man's ever gonna tell me what to do again and,
  • 00:39:43.280 --> 00:39:46.220
  • I'm not gonna put up with that,
  • 00:39:46.220 --> 00:39:48.100
  • and I'm not gonna put up with this.
  • 00:39:48.100 --> 00:39:50.010
  • Where I know another pastor's wife
  • 00:39:50.010 --> 00:39:53.160
  • who was also sexually abused,
  • 00:39:53.160 --> 00:39:57.140
  • and she came out of it like a little mouse.
  • 00:39:57.140 --> 00:40:00.290
  • She just totally turned in, and,
  • 00:40:02.290 --> 00:40:07.010
  • wasn't very courageous at all.
  • 00:40:08.020 --> 00:40:10.100
  • I was out of balance one way,
  • 00:40:10.100 --> 00:40:11.250
  • she was out of balance the other way.
  • 00:40:11.250 --> 00:40:13.170
  • And so, to be healthy,
  • 00:40:13.170 --> 00:40:15.260
  • for any person, no matter what your problem is,
  • 00:40:15.260 --> 00:40:18.140
  • it doesn't have to be that you were severely abused.
  • 00:40:18.140 --> 00:40:21.210
  • Different things hurt different people,
  • 00:40:21.210 --> 00:40:24.140
  • and the thing is is, God wants us to be confident,
  • 00:40:24.140 --> 00:40:28.280
  • he doesn't want us to be insecure.
  • 00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.010
  • So let's just say you're insecure.
  • 00:40:31.010 --> 00:40:33.140
  • Well if you're insecure, you need to not just say,
  • 00:40:33.140 --> 00:40:36.050
  • well, I'm just insecure.
  • 00:40:36.050 --> 00:40:38.130
  • And use that as an excuse
  • 00:40:38.130 --> 00:40:40.290
  • to not live the life that God died for you to have.
  • 00:40:40.290 --> 00:40:43.250
  • You need to say, I'm insecure,
  • 00:40:43.250 --> 00:40:47.050
  • and that's not what Jesus died for me to have,
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  • and I want to get to the root of this,
  • 00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:52.290
  • and I want to get over this.
  • 00:40:52.290 --> 00:40:55.150
  • And so you have to start by setting boundaries for your life
  • 00:40:55.150 --> 00:40:59.220
  • where you don't let people take advantage of you.
  • 00:40:59.220 --> 00:41:03.040
  • Where you know how to say no to things
  • 00:41:04.090 --> 00:41:07.260
  • if you believe it's something God would have you say no to.
  • 00:41:07.260 --> 00:41:12.040
  • Don't you guys find that you have to
  • 00:41:12.040 --> 00:41:13.160
  • have some personal boundaries for your life?
  • 00:41:13.160 --> 00:41:15.140
  • - Yes. - Yes.
  • 00:41:15.140 --> 00:41:17.060
  • - And it's hard when people are wanting you to do things,
  • 00:41:17.060 --> 00:41:20.230
  • and you want to be liked.
  • 00:41:20.230 --> 00:41:22.270
  • Because I grew up,
  • 00:41:22.270 --> 00:41:24.110
  • I didn't have friends, I didn't,
  • 00:41:24.110 --> 00:41:26.020
  • and I was, I had a real rough way of dealing with things
  • 00:41:27.150 --> 00:41:31.120
  • because I was hurting so bad.
  • 00:41:31.120 --> 00:41:33.040
  • And so,
  • 00:41:33.040 --> 00:41:34.030
  • I wanted friends, and so then I, I fell into,
  • 00:41:35.150 --> 00:41:38.170
  • well, if I can't control you,
  • 00:41:38.170 --> 00:41:40.100
  • then I'm gonna let you control me.
  • 00:41:41.200 --> 00:41:43.160
  • And so I was always out of balance one way or the other,
  • 00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:48.130
  • and thank God I've learned now to treat other people right,
  • 00:41:48.130 --> 00:41:53.130
  • and to not let them,
  • 00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:56.090
  • I've learned to not enable people to keep their problems.
  • 00:41:57.220 --> 00:42:02.240
  • I talked about that at Joel's last weekend.
  • 00:42:05.020 --> 00:42:08.010
  • We have to know when helping somebody's really helping them
  • 00:42:08.010 --> 00:42:12.040
  • and when we're just enabling them.
  • 00:42:12.040 --> 00:42:14.260
  • And so boundaries I think are important,
  • 00:42:14.260 --> 00:42:17.170
  • and knowing the love of God is absolutely mandatory.
  • 00:42:17.170 --> 00:42:22.130
  • That is,
  • 00:42:24.160 --> 00:42:25.230
  • if you are hurting inside in your soul,
  • 00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:28.180
  • and you don't feel good about yourself,
  • 00:42:29.240 --> 00:42:31.180
  • we need to love ourselves,
  • 00:42:33.230 --> 00:42:35.020
  • and I'm not saying be in love with yourself.
  • 00:42:35.020 --> 00:42:38.000
  • But you need to love yourself,
  • 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:39.150
  • because you cannot give away what you don't have.
  • 00:42:39.150 --> 00:42:42.000
  • And so God loves us freely and unconditionally,
  • 00:42:43.110 --> 00:42:47.220
  • and receiving that is the equivalent
  • 00:42:47.220 --> 00:42:51.010
  • or learning to love yourself.
  • 00:42:51.010 --> 00:42:54.040
  • I mean if God can love me, who's perfect,
  • 00:42:54.040 --> 00:42:57.140
  • then I can love me.
  • 00:42:57.140 --> 00:42:59.190
  • And that doesn't mean that I dote on myself
  • 00:42:59.190 --> 00:43:02.190
  • and think I have to have everything that I want,
  • 00:43:02.190 --> 00:43:05.100
  • it just means that I respect who God made me to be,
  • 00:43:05.100 --> 00:43:09.090
  • and I realize that I have weaknesses
  • 00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:11.090
  • but I also have strengths.
  • 00:43:11.090 --> 00:43:13.250
  • I do make mistakes but I'm not all a mistake.
  • 00:43:13.250 --> 00:43:17.090
  • And, I mean, it took me a long time to really get that,
  • 00:43:17.090 --> 00:43:21.120
  • I would go and stand in the mirror and point at myself
  • 00:43:21.120 --> 00:43:23.220
  • and say, God loves you.
  • 00:43:23.220 --> 00:43:25.050
  • God loves you.
  • 00:43:26.070 --> 00:43:28.090
  • Because I couldn't figure out why I couldn't love people,
  • 00:43:29.220 --> 00:43:32.170
  • I kept hearing as a Christian I needed to love people,
  • 00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:35.060
  • and I just was not a very loving person.
  • 00:43:35.060 --> 00:43:38.110
  • I mean, I just wasn't.
  • 00:43:38.110 --> 00:43:40.130
  • I was okay if I was getting my way,
  • 00:43:40.130 --> 00:43:41.270
  • but if I wasn't, boy, look out.
  • 00:43:41.270 --> 00:43:44.050
  • And there was a lot of things that God had to change in me,
  • 00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:48.110
  • but I really am like a totally different person.
  • 00:43:48.110 --> 00:43:51.090
  • I still got some things that need to change in me and,
  • 00:43:51.090 --> 00:43:54.290
  • I love working with God on changing
  • 00:43:54.290 --> 00:43:57.250
  • what needs to be changed.
  • 00:43:57.250 --> 00:43:59.140
  • It's not a problem for me,
  • 00:43:59.140 --> 00:44:01.060
  • I know that his chastisement is love.
  • 00:44:01.060 --> 00:44:03.130
  • - You're not fighting it anymore, did you used to fight it?
  • 00:44:03.130 --> 00:44:06.230
  • - Oh, yeah.
  • 00:44:06.230 --> 00:44:08.060
  • Because I didn't want something else to be wrong with me.
  • 00:44:08.060 --> 00:44:11.040
  • I already felt so bad about myself.
  • 00:44:11.040 --> 00:44:13.080
  • That's why, actually there's some scriptures in Hebrews,
  • 00:44:14.220 --> 00:44:16.290
  • toward the end of Hebrews 5 and into Hebrews 6,
  • 00:44:16.290 --> 00:44:20.210
  • and he said that, by now you should be teaching others,
  • 00:44:20.210 --> 00:44:25.140
  • but you still need to be taught over and over
  • 00:44:25.140 --> 00:44:29.020
  • the same messages, I can only feed you milk,
  • 00:44:29.020 --> 00:44:33.150
  • and not meat, and listen to this.
  • 00:44:33.150 --> 00:44:35.090
  • Because you are unskilled in the doctrine of righteousness.
  • 00:44:35.090 --> 00:44:39.180
  • So he was saying,
  • 00:44:39.180 --> 00:44:41.030
  • I can't tell you what I'd really like to tell you.
  • 00:44:41.030 --> 00:44:42.240
  • Which was probably, grow up.
  • 00:44:43.290 --> 00:44:46.030
  • He said I can't tell you what I'd really like to tell you
  • 00:44:47.160 --> 00:44:49.070
  • because you still yet don't know who you are in Christ.
  • 00:44:49.070 --> 00:44:52.160
  • And when you don't know who you are in Christ,
  • 00:44:52.160 --> 00:44:55.080
  • then you have a very hard time taking correction from people
  • 00:44:55.080 --> 00:44:58.100
  • or taking correction from God,
  • 00:44:58.100 --> 00:45:01.210
  • because it just makes you feel worse about yourself
  • 00:45:01.210 --> 00:45:05.070
  • than what you already do.
  • 00:45:05.070 --> 00:45:07.140
  • But see, now,
  • 00:45:07.140 --> 00:45:09.120
  • I know the difference in conviction and condemnation,
  • 00:45:10.240 --> 00:45:13.140
  • and so when God convicts me,
  • 00:45:14.210 --> 00:45:18.140
  • I know that that's him loving me,
  • 00:45:18.140 --> 00:45:20.290
  • and I can say God, thank you for loving me enough
  • 00:45:20.290 --> 00:45:24.030
  • to not leave me the way I am.
  • 00:45:24.030 --> 00:45:27.130
  • - Was there an event or a moment in your life
  • 00:45:27.130 --> 00:45:30.170
  • somewhere that you can think about
  • 00:45:30.170 --> 00:45:32.240
  • that the analogy would be a Y in the road?
  • 00:45:33.290 --> 00:45:37.020
  • Where you found yourself at a Y in the road,
  • 00:45:37.020 --> 00:45:40.020
  • the left path took you to this seat today doing this,
  • 00:45:40.020 --> 00:45:44.010
  • the other path would've taken you somewhere,
  • 00:45:44.010 --> 00:45:46.230
  • was there ever a defining time in your life
  • 00:45:46.230 --> 00:45:49.260
  • where you saw this was either gonna work,
  • 00:45:49.260 --> 00:45:53.050
  • or it wasn't gonna work?
  • 00:45:53.050 --> 00:45:55.060
  • - You mean where I had to make a decision to stick with it
  • 00:45:55.060 --> 00:45:57.230
  • or to -- - Sure.
  • 00:45:57.230 --> 00:45:59.000
  • - Yeah, about one of those every other day.
  • 00:45:59.000 --> 00:46:00.260
  • (laughter)
  • 00:46:00.260 --> 00:46:02.020
  • I mean, in the beginning.
  • 00:46:02.020 --> 00:46:03.160
  • - Lots of Ys in the road, yeah.
  • 00:46:03.160 --> 00:46:05.190
  • - I mean, when I quit my job, Matt,
  • 00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:09.020
  • we were $40 a month short
  • 00:46:09.020 --> 00:46:10.250
  • of even being able to pay our bills
  • 00:46:10.250 --> 00:46:12.130
  • let alone anything different.
  • 00:46:12.130 --> 00:46:14.150
  • And we needed a miracle every month,
  • 00:46:14.150 --> 00:46:18.160
  • but I really felt like God wanted me to quit my job.
  • 00:46:18.160 --> 00:46:22.000
  • And so I tried to bargain with God,
  • 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:24.100
  • and I got a part time job.
  • 00:46:24.100 --> 00:46:26.170
  • And it's so funny when you think about it,
  • 00:46:26.170 --> 00:46:28.240
  • because that's what we do a lot of times.
  • 00:46:28.240 --> 00:46:30.280
  • Instead of giving God obedience,
  • 00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.030
  • we'll give Him an offering.
  • 00:46:33.030 --> 00:46:34.160
  • (audience murmuring)
  • 00:46:34.160 --> 00:46:36.200
  • And so, I got fired from my part time job.
  • 00:46:36.200 --> 00:46:39.190
  • (laughter)
  • 00:46:39.190 --> 00:46:40.260
  • Which I was not the kind of person
  • 00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:42.080
  • that got fired from a job.
  • 00:46:42.080 --> 00:46:43.190
  • But I mean, from the time I took that job,
  • 00:46:43.190 --> 00:46:46.110
  • I could not do anything right.
  • 00:46:46.110 --> 00:46:49.090
  • - [Matt] What was the job, just by -
  • 00:46:49.090 --> 00:46:51.210
  • - I was a bookkeeper, back then,
  • 00:46:51.210 --> 00:46:53.140
  • you know, accounting, office manager, bookkeeper.
  • 00:46:53.140 --> 00:46:55.200
  • And I mean, every time I'd touch the,
  • 00:46:55.200 --> 00:46:58.170
  • we used to use bookkeeping machines back then,
  • 00:46:58.170 --> 00:47:02.080
  • the thing would break.
  • 00:47:02.080 --> 00:47:03.150
  • It was just the most ridiculous thing.
  • 00:47:03.150 --> 00:47:05.210
  • And then I found out the office manager
  • 00:47:05.210 --> 00:47:07.250
  • was a practicing witch.
  • 00:47:07.250 --> 00:47:09.100
  • Well it was no wonder I was having trouble.
  • 00:47:09.100 --> 00:47:11.140
  • (laughter) - Jeez.
  • 00:47:11.140 --> 00:47:13.020
  • - So, bold me, I'm gonna help the world,
  • 00:47:13.020 --> 00:47:18.020
  • I went and told her that I had some help for her,
  • 00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:21.220
  • and that she should burn all those witchcraft books
  • 00:47:21.220 --> 00:47:26.140
  • and start reading the Bible.
  • 00:47:26.140 --> 00:47:27.290
  • And let's just say it wasn't very long
  • 00:47:27.290 --> 00:47:29.130
  • that I didn't have a job.
  • 00:47:29.130 --> 00:47:30.200
  • (laughter)
  • 00:47:30.200 --> 00:47:32.260
  • But it was so hard in the beginning,
  • 00:47:34.070 --> 00:47:37.030
  • I don't even know how to, first of all,
  • 00:47:37.030 --> 00:47:39.160
  • I didn't know how to receive God's grace.
  • 00:47:39.160 --> 00:47:41.140
  • So everything was frustration and struggle.
  • 00:47:41.140 --> 00:47:43.220
  • - [Laurie] Sure.
  • 00:47:43.220 --> 00:47:44.280
  • - Well now I know better, I know if I'm,
  • 00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:47.200
  • yeah, things can be hard and the enemy can come against you,
  • 00:47:47.200 --> 00:47:50.290
  • but God's not gonna call you to do something you hate
  • 00:47:50.290 --> 00:47:53.280
  • and have no ability to do.
  • 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:55.260
  • And so, I had the capability of doing the job,
  • 00:47:55.260 --> 00:48:00.140
  • but I was just afraid all the time.
  • 00:48:00.140 --> 00:48:02.090
  • I was afraid of failure
  • 00:48:02.090 --> 00:48:03.160
  • because I didn't know who I was in Christ,
  • 00:48:03.160 --> 00:48:05.240
  • I was insecure because I didn't know who I was in Christ.
  • 00:48:05.240 --> 00:48:08.230
  • If I'd be teaching and somebody would get up and walk out,
  • 00:48:08.230 --> 00:48:13.180
  • I mean, I was just pretty much done for the evening
  • 00:48:13.180 --> 00:48:16.020
  • because I was sure that they didn't like the message.
  • 00:48:16.020 --> 00:48:20.040
  • I had somebody come and tell me one time,
  • 00:48:20.040 --> 00:48:22.100
  • this is how wrong we can be.
  • 00:48:22.100 --> 00:48:24.230
  • I mean, I was,
  • 00:48:24.230 --> 00:48:26.080
  • I felt terrible all night because this woman left
  • 00:48:26.080 --> 00:48:30.230
  • about five minutes after I started.
  • 00:48:30.230 --> 00:48:34.000
  • And she didn't sit in the back, she sat in the front.
  • 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:38.030
  • And I thought, oh my god, this is awful,
  • 00:48:38.030 --> 00:48:40.180
  • it's the wrong message, she didn't like me,
  • 00:48:40.180 --> 00:48:42.180
  • she thought it was horrible.
  • 00:48:42.180 --> 00:48:43.290
  • And somebody came and told me afterwards,
  • 00:48:43.290 --> 00:48:45.230
  • you know that lady in the front
  • 00:48:45.230 --> 00:48:47.090
  • that got up and had to leave real early and I said yeah.
  • 00:48:47.090 --> 00:48:49.070
  • And she said, she wanted me to be sure and tell you
  • 00:48:49.070 --> 00:48:52.160
  • that she had to go to work
  • 00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:54.150
  • and she could only stay five minutes,
  • 00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:57.220
  • but she loves you so much, it was worth it to her,
  • 00:48:57.220 --> 00:49:01.120
  • just to be in the room five minutes.
  • 00:49:01.120 --> 00:49:03.110
  • (murmuring) - Wow.
  • 00:49:03.110 --> 00:49:04.250
  • - So that's how wrong I was, how my imagination,
  • 00:49:04.250 --> 00:49:07.110
  • how Satan worked on my weaknesses.
  • 00:49:07.110 --> 00:49:09.170
  • - [Laurie] Those lies that we believe.
  • 00:49:09.170 --> 00:49:10.250
  • - To tell me lies that I believed.
  • 00:49:10.250 --> 00:49:13.100
  • But if I would've known who I was in Christ,
  • 00:49:13.100 --> 00:49:16.120
  • even if she left, I could've said,
  • 00:49:16.120 --> 00:49:18.120
  • well, I'm sorry you're leaving
  • 00:49:18.120 --> 00:49:19.250
  • if you're leaving because you don't like me,
  • 00:49:19.250 --> 00:49:21.130
  • but I know that I'm doing what God wants me to do
  • 00:49:21.130 --> 00:49:24.240
  • and so I'm just gonna keep doing it.
  • 00:49:24.240 --> 00:49:26.040
  • - [Laurie] So good.
  • 00:49:26.040 --> 00:49:27.280
  • - Healing the Soul of a Woman, this is a devotional,
  • 00:49:27.280 --> 00:49:30.180
  • it's available by going to the information on your screen.
  • 00:49:30.180 --> 00:49:34.130
  • And Joyce, 10 minutes or so, let's grab some more subjects.
  • 00:49:34.130 --> 00:49:39.070
  • - Okay.
  • 00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:40.270
  • Well, let's see, what can we take here?
  • 00:49:40.270 --> 00:49:43.140
  • Um...
  • 00:49:43.140 --> 00:49:44.140
  • - [Matt] This is the first quiet moment I've ever heard
  • 00:49:48.160 --> 00:49:50.290
  • in my whole life with Joyce Meyer on a set.
  • 00:49:50.290 --> 00:49:54.050
  • - Okay, how about no longer a victim?
  • 00:49:54.050 --> 00:49:56.170
  • - [Matt] There you go.
  • 00:49:56.170 --> 00:49:57.120
  • - [Laurie] Good, good.
  • 00:49:57.120 --> 00:49:58.190
  • - I never say I am a victim of child abuse.
  • 00:49:58.190 --> 00:50:00.160
  • - [Matt] Okay.
  • 00:50:00.160 --> 00:50:01.250
  • - I'm not gonna use that terminology
  • 00:50:01.250 --> 00:50:03.130
  • because I'm a new creature in Christ.
  • 00:50:03.130 --> 00:50:05.250
  • - [Laurie] Amen.
  • 00:50:05.250 --> 00:50:06.200
  • - [Matt] Wow.
  • 00:50:06.200 --> 00:50:07.190
  • (applause)
  • 00:50:07.190 --> 00:50:09.260
  • - And that little girl that had all those things
  • 00:50:11.080 --> 00:50:14.230
  • happen to her, when I think about her,
  • 00:50:14.230 --> 00:50:16.200
  • she's like somebody I used to know a long, long time ago.
  • 00:50:16.200 --> 00:50:21.190
  • - [Matt] My goodness.
  • 00:50:22.120 --> 00:50:23.110
  • - Now, don't misunderstand,
  • 00:50:23.110 --> 00:50:24.260
  • I can find my mind drifting off sometimes and just,
  • 00:50:24.260 --> 00:50:27.140
  • all of a sudden I'll find myself thinking
  • 00:50:27.140 --> 00:50:29.070
  • about something my dad did to me.
  • 00:50:29.070 --> 00:50:31.170
  • But as soon as the Holy Spirit makes me aware,
  • 00:50:31.170 --> 00:50:33.130
  • I'm like, nope!
  • 00:50:33.130 --> 00:50:34.140
  • Not going back there.
  • 00:50:35.120 --> 00:50:37.050
  • - Yeah. - Right, right.
  • 00:50:37.050 --> 00:50:38.120
  • - I've got a new life, I'm a new creature.
  • 00:50:38.120 --> 00:50:40.290
  • The person that happened to died in Christ,
  • 00:50:40.290 --> 00:50:44.070
  • was risen from the dead,
  • 00:50:44.070 --> 00:50:45.250
  • and is now living a resurrection life.
  • 00:50:45.250 --> 00:50:47.200
  • (applause) - Beautiful, beautiful.
  • 00:50:47.200 --> 00:50:52.070
  • And here's another subject covered, never too late.
  • 00:50:52.070 --> 00:50:56.110
  • I mean I've had women after I've preached this,
  • 00:50:56.110 --> 00:50:59.240
  • I was in Russia one time and I,
  • 00:50:59.240 --> 00:51:01.220
  • I preached on just what we're talking about,
  • 00:51:03.100 --> 00:51:05.180
  • I told my story.
  • 00:51:05.180 --> 00:51:07.060
  • And I offered to pray for people at the end.
  • 00:51:07.060 --> 00:51:10.160
  • And I had people wrapped around the building outside,
  • 00:51:10.160 --> 00:51:13.250
  • waiting for prayer, and one woman was 80 years old.
  • 00:51:13.250 --> 00:51:17.160
  • And she said, I've never told anybody.
  • 00:51:17.160 --> 00:51:19.190
  • Never told anybody.
  • 00:51:20.150 --> 00:51:22.130
  • And so,
  • 00:51:22.130 --> 00:51:23.210
  • but I don't know how I had the courage
  • 00:51:23.210 --> 00:51:25.100
  • to get up and say the things that I did.
  • 00:51:25.100 --> 00:51:26.290
  • You talk about how open I always am.
  • 00:51:26.290 --> 00:51:29.030
  • I don't know how to preach any other way.
  • 00:51:29.030 --> 00:51:31.130
  • It's not,
  • 00:51:31.130 --> 00:51:32.280
  • it's not hard for me, I mean, I just,
  • 00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:35.190
  • I mean, we're real people.
  • 00:51:36.220 --> 00:51:38.240
  • Why try to pretend that you're perfect
  • 00:51:38.240 --> 00:51:40.260
  • and never make any mistakes?
  • 00:51:40.260 --> 00:51:43.160
  • And you learn as you go through daily life,
  • 00:51:43.160 --> 00:51:47.250
  • so why not use your daily life
  • 00:51:47.250 --> 00:51:50.010
  • as an example of how the word of God worked for you
  • 00:51:51.140 --> 00:51:54.060
  • in that situation?
  • 00:51:55.140 --> 00:51:56.210
  • But it's never too late to begin again.
  • 00:51:56.210 --> 00:51:58.230
  • - [Laurie] Right.
  • 00:51:58.230 --> 00:52:00.040
  • - I mean you could be somebody watching
  • 00:52:00.040 --> 00:52:01.180
  • that doesn't even know Jesus, and you're thinking,
  • 00:52:01.180 --> 00:52:04.020
  • well you know, this sounds pretty interesting,
  • 00:52:04.020 --> 00:52:05.270
  • I didn't know I could have that kind of a personal
  • 00:52:05.270 --> 00:52:08.140
  • relationship with Jesus.
  • 00:52:08.140 --> 00:52:11.000
  • Jesus didn't die so we could all go to church.
  • 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.110
  • - [Laurie] Right.
  • 00:52:14.110 --> 00:52:15.070
  • - Or have our own brand of religion, he died,
  • 00:52:16.120 --> 00:52:19.100
  • a painful, awful death that we might have a personal,
  • 00:52:19.100 --> 00:52:24.100
  • intimate, relationship with God, through him.
  • 00:52:25.250 --> 00:52:30.220
  • Do you get it?
  • 00:52:30.220 --> 00:52:32.030
  • We get to talk to God,
  • 00:52:32.030 --> 00:52:34.170
  • every day, and he listens.
  • 00:52:35.170 --> 00:52:38.120
  • And he can't wait to talk to you in the morning.
  • 00:52:39.240 --> 00:52:43.050
  • (applause)
  • 00:52:43.050 --> 00:52:45.260
  • Wow, what we've been given.
  • 00:52:45.260 --> 00:52:48.270
  • - What I'm so blown away by is,
  • 00:52:48.270 --> 00:52:53.270
  • the idea that your journey,
  • 00:52:54.230 --> 00:52:59.080
  • I just don't know anyone else that has done
  • 00:52:59.080 --> 00:53:01.270
  • the pathway that you've done, that's why you're,
  • 00:53:01.270 --> 00:53:04.250
  • I've heard you say the phrase,
  • 00:53:04.250 --> 00:53:06.100
  • you're gonna be the best Joyce Meyer that there is,
  • 00:53:06.100 --> 00:53:08.200
  • there isn't gonna be a better one,
  • 00:53:08.200 --> 00:53:10.020
  • there's not gonna be another better Joyce Meyer,
  • 00:53:10.020 --> 00:53:12.050
  • you're the only one there is.
  • 00:53:12.050 --> 00:53:14.050
  • That's why we shouldn't do what other people try to do,
  • 00:53:14.050 --> 00:53:16.190
  • or I shouldn't try to be Joel Osteen
  • 00:53:16.190 --> 00:53:18.270
  • and you shouldn't try to be somebody else.
  • 00:53:18.270 --> 00:53:21.030
  • And the,
  • 00:53:21.030 --> 00:53:22.250
  • what the result is, is you're sitting here,
  • 00:53:22.250 --> 00:53:25.070
  • and you're able to teach all of this
  • 00:53:25.070 --> 00:53:27.210
  • in a way that seems so practical to us,
  • 00:53:27.210 --> 00:53:30.070
  • and that's what this book is, the 90 day devotional.
  • 00:53:30.070 --> 00:53:33.230
  • - Well it comes out of my life, Matt.
  • 00:53:33.230 --> 00:53:36.030
  • It's not a sermon I sat down and put together,
  • 00:53:36.030 --> 00:53:38.160
  • or one I copied from somebody else.
  • 00:53:38.160 --> 00:53:42.130
  • - [Laurie] You've lived this life.
  • 00:53:42.130 --> 00:53:43.210
  • - I've lived this life, I've lived it,
  • 00:53:43.210 --> 00:53:45.280
  • and that's why I'm so strong on the word of God
  • 00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.230
  • and spending time with God.
  • 00:53:48.230 --> 00:53:51.020
  • I don't care if you don't say one word, just,
  • 00:53:51.020 --> 00:53:53.230
  • for God to know that you care enough about him
  • 00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:57.230
  • to spend time with him on a regular basis is so important.
  • 00:53:57.230 --> 00:54:02.250
  • - And I think it's so powerful what you'd said about,
  • 00:54:04.050 --> 00:54:06.210
  • those little steps of obedience every day.
  • 00:54:08.000 --> 00:54:10.160
  • 'Cause I think God's talking to us all the time.
  • 00:54:10.160 --> 00:54:14.040
  • - And people think, oh, God doesn't talk to me, yes he does.
  • 00:54:14.040 --> 00:54:17.170
  • - Yeah, yeah, absolutely. - Yeah he does.
  • 00:54:17.170 --> 00:54:19.050
  • - And just doing those little things
  • 00:54:19.050 --> 00:54:21.090
  • that might sound silly to everybody else,
  • 00:54:21.090 --> 00:54:23.130
  • but just, just doing it.
  • 00:54:23.130 --> 00:54:25.290
  • Go give that lady a hug over there.
  • 00:54:25.290 --> 00:54:27.280
  • Anything.
  • 00:54:29.080 --> 00:54:30.180
  • - Little things.
  • 00:54:30.180 --> 00:54:31.160
  • - But it's those steps that,
  • 00:54:31.160 --> 00:54:33.260
  • that put you where you are today,
  • 00:54:35.160 --> 00:54:38.230
  • I mean that's how you got here.
  • 00:54:38.230 --> 00:54:40.290
  • And people say, I think everyone's so used to now,
  • 00:54:40.290 --> 00:54:45.050
  • they don't understand why they don't have the platform now.
  • 00:54:45.050 --> 00:54:48.070
  • You know?
  • 00:54:49.110 --> 00:54:50.170
  • Well, I think we've just ignored that voice
  • 00:54:50.170 --> 00:54:52.260
  • so many, many, many times
  • 00:54:52.260 --> 00:54:55.020
  • when the Holy Spirit has impressed to do something.
  • 00:54:55.020 --> 00:54:57.170
  • I know I have.
  • 00:54:57.170 --> 00:54:58.240
  • I've ignored that sometimes a little bit.
  • 00:54:58.240 --> 00:55:01.090
  • - You know, most ministry,
  • 00:55:01.090 --> 00:55:02.180
  • doesn't come from a platform.
  • 00:55:04.080 --> 00:55:06.280
  • - [Laurie] No.
  • 00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:08.050
  • - It comes from people one on one.
  • 00:55:08.050 --> 00:55:09.220
  • - [Laurie] It's so true.
  • 00:55:09.220 --> 00:55:11.110
  • - Living Christ in their everyday life.
  • 00:55:11.110 --> 00:55:14.070
  • - [Laurie] Oh, it's so true.
  • 00:55:14.070 --> 00:55:15.150
  • - Because most of the people that need help
  • 00:55:15.150 --> 00:55:18.130
  • are not coming to church to get it.
  • 00:55:18.130 --> 00:55:21.030
  • How many people say, I accidentally turned your program on?
  • 00:55:21.030 --> 00:55:25.040
  • - Yes. - Mm-hmm.
  • 00:55:25.040 --> 00:55:26.090
  • - Or,
  • 00:55:26.090 --> 00:55:27.040
  • I kept trying to get something on TV
  • 00:55:28.130 --> 00:55:30.030
  • and I ran into your four times,
  • 00:55:30.030 --> 00:55:31.180
  • so finally I thought God might be saying something to me.
  • 00:55:31.180 --> 00:55:35.200
  • I mean I've heard some of the wildest testimonies.
  • 00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:38.050
  • One guy said that he was strung out on drugs,
  • 00:55:38.050 --> 00:55:42.030
  • and my program came on, and he couldn't get it to go off.
  • 00:55:42.030 --> 00:55:46.010
  • The only button on his TV that would work
  • 00:55:46.010 --> 00:55:47.290
  • was one to make the sound go up.
  • 00:55:47.290 --> 00:55:49.260
  • (laughter) Nothing else would work.
  • 00:55:49.260 --> 00:55:51.100
  • Well it scared the living tar out of him,
  • 00:55:51.100 --> 00:55:53.030
  • and he got saved that night.
  • 00:55:53.030 --> 00:55:54.210
  • (laughter)
  • 00:55:54.210 --> 00:55:56.250
  • - So, just,
  • 00:55:56.250 --> 00:55:59.170
  • why don't you kinda take your liberty at the end of the show
  • 00:55:59.170 --> 00:56:02.160
  • just kind of your final thoughts,
  • 00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:03.220
  • and just pray for the audience
  • 00:56:03.220 --> 00:56:05.060
  • as we're in the last couple of minutes of the show.
  • 00:56:05.060 --> 00:56:07.270
  • And we're talking about Healing the Soul of the Woman,
  • 00:56:07.270 --> 00:56:11.080
  • of a woman, not the woman, not this woman, specifically.
  • 00:56:11.080 --> 00:56:16.080
  • - Well, I'm gonna take it, thank you.
  • 00:56:17.130 --> 00:56:18.210
  • - Just in the last couple of minutes,
  • 00:56:18.210 --> 00:56:20.040
  • just pray for the folks.
  • 00:56:20.040 --> 00:56:21.210
  • - Well first of all, men can take a black marker,
  • 00:56:21.210 --> 00:56:24.250
  • and just cross out the W-O.
  • 00:56:24.250 --> 00:56:27.080
  • If you can handle the flower you can do good with this book.
  • 00:56:28.220 --> 00:56:31.200
  • - [Matt] Got it. (Laurie laughing)
  • 00:56:31.200 --> 00:56:32.260
  • - So here's what I want to pray for you.
  • 00:56:32.260 --> 00:56:35.220
  • Learning to enjoy your life is so important.
  • 00:56:35.220 --> 00:56:38.280
  • And God wants that for you.
  • 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:42.050
  • That doesn't mean live on vacation,
  • 00:56:42.050 --> 00:56:44.090
  • but it means to learn how to really enjoy
  • 00:56:44.090 --> 00:56:46.240
  • ordinary, everyday life.
  • 00:56:46.240 --> 00:56:48.270
  • So Father I pray that each person
  • 00:56:48.270 --> 00:56:51.100
  • would be healed on their insides.
  • 00:56:53.150 --> 00:56:57.230
  • - [Matt] Thank you, Lord.
  • 00:56:57.230 --> 00:56:59.080
  • - As well as physically and mentally and every other way,
  • 00:56:59.080 --> 00:57:01.250
  • but have a healthy soul.
  • 00:57:01.250 --> 00:57:04.120
  • Know who they are in you, like themselves,
  • 00:57:04.120 --> 00:57:07.250
  • know that they're worth a little bit of fun,
  • 00:57:07.250 --> 00:57:09.230
  • and once in a while even a little bit of waste.
  • 00:57:09.230 --> 00:57:12.040
  • And I pray that everybody that's hearing my voice
  • 00:57:13.170 --> 00:57:16.180
  • will understand that enjoying yourself and your life
  • 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:22.020
  • is something that God wants for you.
  • 00:57:22.020 --> 00:57:24.040
  • And that you would learn his ways
  • 00:57:25.080 --> 00:57:27.270
  • well enough to be able to do that.
  • 00:57:27.270 --> 00:57:30.050
  • In Jesus' name, amen.
  • 00:57:30.050 --> 00:57:32.080
  • - [Matt] Amen, beautiful. (applause)
  • 00:57:32.080 --> 00:57:35.070
  • - Healing the Soul of a Woman Devotional,
  • 00:57:35.070 --> 00:57:38.020
  • what we've been talking about.
  • 00:57:38.020 --> 00:57:40.050
  • First of all thank you, Joyce Meyer,
  • 00:57:40.050 --> 00:57:41.210
  • all the information, how you can get this is on the screen.
  • 00:57:41.210 --> 00:57:44.080
  • Thank you Joyce Meyer,
  • 00:57:44.080 --> 00:57:45.150
  • give her great love for being here today.
  • 00:57:45.150 --> 00:57:47.060
  • - We'll see you next time. - Thank you, thank you.
  • 00:57:47.060 --> 00:57:48.210
  • (cheering and applause)
  • 00:57:48.210 --> 00:57:50.000
  • - [Matt] Bye bye.
  • 00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:51.130
  • (upbeat instrumental music)
  • 00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:57.180