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November 5, 2019
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  • Jim Scudder, Jr.: Can you imagine having to grow up
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  • in a bomb shelter?
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  • Today on "InGrace," we're going to tell you the story of a
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  • woman who did just that.
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  • Jim: Ever since I was a boy, I've been fascinated
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  • with God's creation.
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  • I'm traveling the planet to tell his story about his world.
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  • I'm Jim Scudder, Jr.
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  • Come with me on another exciting adventure "InGrace."
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  • Jim: I think we have a really great episode for you today
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  • on "InGrace."
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  • I'm Jim Scudder, and today we're going to tell you the story
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  • of Brigitte Gabriel.
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  • She's a Lebanese American, but she grew up in Lebanon in an
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  • affluent family in a beautiful country and then her world
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  • came crashing down upon her.
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  • She has suffered a lot of persecution,
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  • but also she has found God's amazing protection.
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  • You'll love today's story of Brigitte Gabriel on "InGrace."
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  • Jim: Brigitte, great to have you on "InGrace."
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  • Brigitte Gabriel: Thank you so much.
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  • I'm honored to be here. This is so exciting.
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  • Jim: It is, and you've written books, bestsellers.
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  • You've spoken to the UN and to our security people
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  • in the United States.
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  • So your life was impacted by terrorism when you were young,
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  • and your house was destroyed and you had to
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  • live in a bomb shelter.
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  • Brigitte: My home was bombed.
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  • I remember waking up in the middle of the night,
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  • hearing the bombs going off all at the same time.
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  • My parents had just tucked me into bed and read me a story,
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  • and they always would tell me when they would tuck me in,
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  • "We love you higher than the skies,
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  • deeper than the oceans, and bigger than
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  • the whole wide world."
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  • And I went to bed that night like every other night thinking
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  • all is well in the world; so loved, so cared for.
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  • And I remember waking out of a dream into a nightmare.
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  • I remember the bombs going off.
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  • I remember just fire around me everywhere,
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  • just fire burning.
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  • I ended up in the hospital for 2 1/2 months,
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  • going from one surgery to another,
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  • hooked up to IVs.
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  • And as a child just going through all the pain and all
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  • these surgeries and I would ask my father the question,
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  • "Why did they do this to us, Daddy?"
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  • And he would tell me, "Because we're Christians.
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  • You know, they consider us infidels.
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  • They want to kill us."
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  • So knowing as a 10-year-old little girl that I am wanted
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  • dead, somebody wants to kill me just because I'm a Christian
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  • really left an impact on me.
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  • I remember leaving the hospital after 2 1/2 months and coming
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  • back home, but my home was gone.
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  • My home was no longer the home I left.
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  • I ended up living underground in an 8x10 bomb shelter.
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  • No electricity, no water, and very little food.
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  • And that's where I lived for the next 7 years of my life from the
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  • age of 10.
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  • Jim: And those years are so formative.
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  • Brigitte: Right. Till the age of 17.
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  • That's all my teenage years.
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  • Jim: Right, and then at that moment in life you're
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  • developing, you're learning, and there you are stuck.
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  • And I read that you were using your schoolbooks to duck under
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  • and hopefully protect yourself from some of these bombs or some
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  • of these bullets, getting back from school.
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  • I mean, what type of childhood would you have to use your
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  • school textbook to protect yourself from the mayhem
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  • around you?
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  • Brigitte: Exactly.
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  • For two years, we didn't even go to school.
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  • So between the age of 10 and 13, I didn't go to school because we
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  • were all trapped in the bomb shelter.
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  • To get water, we would crawl in a ditch under Muslim snipers
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  • shooting at us.
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  • We would say our last goodbyes every time we left the bomb
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  • shelter, whether to dig for grass or whether to get water,
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  • 'cause we didn't know if we're going to come back
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  • alive or dead.
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  • And finally, the elders in our town decided,
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  • "You know, we cannot let this go on.
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  • You know, we've got to educate the kids."
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  • Because, you know, in Christianity education is
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  • very important to us.
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  • So they decided to open up the schools,
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  • and they decided that they will open up only the first floor and
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  • they would cram all the kids in the school.
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  • And many days, I was picked up in a tank to go to school.
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  • You know, those tanks where the cannon--you know,
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  • you see the cannon on it?
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  • You can fit 18 children inside that tank.
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  • Jim: And it's sad that you know that, right?
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  • Brigitte: Exactly. So that was my life.
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  • And I would go to school, and many days the principal would
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  • run in and scream, "We're going to get bombed.
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  • Everybody needs to leave.
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  • The bombings are going to start in 15 minutes."
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  • Because they would hear on the radios,
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  • and the army would send the radio to all the schools.
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  • "Okay, get the schools out--get the kids out."
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  • Well, we lived in a little town.
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  • So everything was 15 to 1/2 hour walk,
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  • while I lived at the edge of town.
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  • For me, it was like more like 1/2 hour.
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  • And I remember running home as fast as I can,
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  • holding on to my book in a rubber band--tied in
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  • a rubber band.
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  • And the bombs would start falling as I got closer to home,
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  • and I would literally fall in a ditch,
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  • put my books on top of my head after the bomb explodes because
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  • all the shrapnel takes like ten seconds to fall and I would wait
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  • until all the shrapnels fell.
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  • And then when they would stop falling,
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  • I would get up, run before the next one exploded,
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  • and this became my life.
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  • And as a child growing up like that,
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  • many nights going to bed not knowing if you're going to wake
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  • up, I would ask God, "How could you allow this to happen?"
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  • One instance in particular, I remember I was 13 years old--and
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  • after two, three years being in the bomb shelter,
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  • we knew the world forgot about us.
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  • My father would always say when we first went into the bomb
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  • shelter, "Oh, all the Christian nations of the world are going
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  • to come see what's happening to the Christians in Lebanon;
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  • how we're being massacred, how we're being killed.
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  • You know, France is going to come.
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  • Britain is going to come.
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  • America is going to come.
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  • Australia is going to come."
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  • And we waited and we waited and nobody came.
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  • I remember I was 13 years old and a friend of ours,
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  • one of the Christian militia guys who were protecting us,
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  • stopped by our bomb shelter and he said,
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  • "I just want you to know that we heard a lot of chatter on the
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  • radios and we believe we're going to be attacked in a major
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  • way tonight."
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  • And he said, "If I don't see you tomorrow,
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  • I wish you a merciful death."
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  • And he gave me a hug and left.
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  • And I remember, pastor, putting on my Sunday best,
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  • my Easter dress, because I wanted to look pretty when they
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  • come to slaughter me.
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  • There would be no one to bury me.
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  • And I remember my mother combing my long black hair down to my
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  • hips and tying a white ribbon in my hair that match the flowers
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  • in my dress as I begged her sobbing,
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  • "I don't want to die, please.
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  • I'm only 13.
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  • Do something. Do something."
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  • And there was nothing my mother could say to me.
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  • And I remember sitting in the corner of the bomb--our bomb
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  • shelter and we started praying.
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  • My father started reading from Psalms:
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  • "I shall walk into the valley of death and fear no evil for thou
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  • art with me."
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  • And my parents said to me, "We've lived a long life.
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  • You're a young child.
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  • We just--we will create a distraction when
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  • they come to kill us.
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  • You just run towards Israel.
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  • Run towards the Israeli border and don't look back.
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  • Run as fast as you can."
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  • You see, we lived on the border with Israel.
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  • You know--my town was 5 kilometers from the border.
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  • And we knew if we go to the Jews and beg for help,
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  • the Jews are not going to kill us because we had more shared
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  • values with them than we had with the Muslims.
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  • Thank God I did not have to make that difficult decision that
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  • night because that's the night when Israel came in physically
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  • into Lebanon and established the security zone and set up
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  • artillery bases around our town so they can protect us so the
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  • Islamists and the Palestinians will not be able to come and
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  • slaughter us, and that's how we lived for another five years.
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  • Jim: Let me ask you a question about Israel.
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  • When you were growing up, did you always think of them as good
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  • and helpful or did that take some time for you to transition
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  • to that belief that they're good?
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  • Brigitte: Well, I was raised in a Christian home.
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  • So in my home--obviously as Christians,
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  • we don't hate anybody and definitely not the Jews who are
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  • the people of God.
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  • Up until 10 years old, however, I was living in a Lebanon that
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  • was becoming an undated with Palestinian refugees coming
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  • into the country.
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  • We were the only nation to accept the third wave of
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  • Palestinian refugees when none of their Arabian
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  • brother wanted them.
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  • But because we are majority Christian nation,
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  • we wanted to help and take them in,
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  • and everything--by that time, the Muslims had become the
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  • majority in the country.
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  • So everything you hear on television was anti-Israel.
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  • Everything you hear--at least when I was under 10.
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  • You know, nine years old.
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  • Nine years old, you're not watching the news.
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  • Nine years old, you're riding your bicycle or playing
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  • with your dolls with your girlfriends.
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  • At 10 years old when the war broke out,
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  • and that's when we went into our bomb shelter and we knew that
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  • the Muslims and the Palestinians want to kill us because
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  • we are Christians.
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  • And at that time, our only lifeline became Israel.
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  • So few people from my town went to Israel and begged for help,
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  • and that's when Israel started bringing ammunition in the
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  • middle of the night to help the military;
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  • food for the military, food for the children.
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  • Israel started bringing bomb shelters for those who did not
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  • have bomb shelters, blankets, et cetera; so in my cognitive
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  • years when I started realizing what's going on in the world
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  • around me, I knew that the Israelis are our friends.
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  • So as I was growing from 10 years old on,
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  • I always knew that they were our friends,
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  • but I really knew when--in 1982 when Israel invaded Lebanon and
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  • my mother became wounded.
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  • And she was wounded by a Muslim shell exploding in front of our
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  • bomb shelter as she ran to the shelter,
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  • and we had to take her to Israel for treatment.
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  • male announcer: Stay tuned to hear the amazing story of
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  • Brigitte mom's survival right after this.
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  • Jim: Your mother is wounded and you're given
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  • the responsibility to get her some help.
  • 00:10:54.180 --> 00:10:57.280
  • Brigitte: We had to take her to Israel for treatment
  • 00:10:57.290 --> 00:10:59.140
  • for--because Israel was our only lifeline.
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  • If you got sick, that's where you went,
  • 00:11:02.170 --> 00:11:04.080
  • got treated for free.
  • 00:11:04.090 --> 00:11:05.150
  • If you needed heart transplant, if you needed a brain--if you
  • 00:11:05.160 --> 00:11:08.100
  • had a brain tumor, if you needed to deliver,
  • 00:11:08.110 --> 00:11:09.260
  • give birth to a child, you went to Israel for treatment because
  • 00:11:09.270 --> 00:11:12.290
  • Israel became our lifeline.
  • 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:15.110
  • When my mother was wounded, we knew we had
  • 00:11:15.120 --> 00:11:17.120
  • to take her to Israel.
  • 00:11:17.130 --> 00:11:18.170
  • For my mother, it was a life-saving experience;
  • 00:11:18.180 --> 00:11:22.030
  • but for me, it was a life-changing experience.
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  • My father before we left the bomb shelter lifted up the
  • 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:31.080
  • mattress, gave me $60, and he said,
  • 00:11:31.090 --> 00:11:35.180
  • "This is some money in case you need it when you go to Israel."
  • 00:11:35.190 --> 00:11:38.270
  • And I remember touching money for the first time because when
  • 00:11:38.280 --> 00:11:40.270
  • you're raised in a bomb shelter you don't go shopping,
  • 00:11:40.280 --> 00:11:43.100
  • and I remember putting the money in my pocket.
  • 00:11:43.110 --> 00:11:46.150
  • We took my mother to the Lebanese hospital in town,
  • 00:11:46.160 --> 00:11:49.110
  • and they put my mother inside an ambulance donated by Israel,
  • 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:53.180
  • Israeli ambulance, that drove my mother from the Lebanese
  • 00:11:53.190 --> 00:11:57.170
  • hospital, ten minute drive to the border to the good fence.
  • 00:11:57.180 --> 00:12:00.140
  • And the driver was a Lebanese driver
  • 00:12:00.150 --> 00:12:02.260
  • who actually knew the family.
  • 00:12:02.270 --> 00:12:04.020
  • We got to the border.
  • 00:12:04.030 --> 00:12:05.180
  • They take my mother out, transfer her into another
  • 00:12:05.190 --> 00:12:07.230
  • ambulance inside Israel.
  • 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.020
  • The Lebanese driver walked around the ambulance and asked
  • 00:12:09.030 --> 00:12:12.090
  • me if I had any money because he needed the fee
  • 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:15.000
  • for the ambulance ride.
  • 00:12:15.010 --> 00:12:16.150
  • And like an innocent 17-year-old,
  • 00:12:16.160 --> 00:12:18.130
  • I take all the money out of my pocket and I handed to him and I
  • 00:12:18.140 --> 00:12:21.190
  • said, "How much do I owe you?"
  • 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:23.070
  • He looks at it then he said, "Give me 30."
  • 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:25.090
  • Which was half the money I had.
  • 00:12:25.100 --> 00:12:26.250
  • I thanked him profusely for driving us and told them,
  • 00:12:26.260 --> 00:12:30.230
  • "Please tell my father that I'm now in Israel.
  • 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.020
  • You know, give him the message."
  • 00:12:33.030 --> 00:12:34.190
  • They put my mother inside another ambulance and I got
  • 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:37.280
  • inside the ambulance with her, and this time the
  • 00:12:37.290 --> 00:12:40.050
  • driver was an Israeli.
  • 00:12:40.060 --> 00:12:42.240
  • He was Miluim.
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  • He was just called in 12 hours earlier because of the war.
  • 00:12:44.020 --> 00:12:47.160
  • And he drove us to Tzfat, which is an hour drive from Metula to
  • 00:12:47.170 --> 00:12:51.240
  • Tzfat, and we were listening to the radio.
  • 00:12:51.250 --> 00:12:55.140
  • He would tell me how far Israel was advancing to Lebanon,
  • 00:12:55.150 --> 00:12:57.210
  • and we were driving and all you see is tanks lined up on the
  • 00:12:57.220 --> 00:13:00.050
  • side of the road getting ready to enter Lebanon.
  • 00:13:00.060 --> 00:13:02.170
  • This is the second day of the war with Lebanon.
  • 00:13:02.180 --> 00:13:04.270
  • And we got to the hospital.
  • 00:13:04.280 --> 00:13:07.080
  • They took my mother out of the ambulance into the emergency
  • 00:13:07.090 --> 00:13:10.220
  • room, and I walked around to pay the Israeli driver the fee for
  • 00:13:10.230 --> 00:13:15.010
  • the ambulance ride.
  • 00:13:15.020 --> 00:13:16.120
  • And I was thinking to myself, "If the 10-minute ride cost me
  • 00:13:16.130 --> 00:13:20.040
  • $30, this is an hour ride.
  • 00:13:20.050 --> 00:13:22.160
  • I'm sure I don't have enough money."
  • 00:13:22.170 --> 00:13:23.240
  • I'm thinking, "How is he going to react?
  • 00:13:23.250 --> 00:13:25.160
  • You know, where we are--I don't have enough money."
  • 00:13:25.170 --> 00:13:27.140
  • And I handed him all the money and I said,
  • 00:13:27.150 --> 00:13:29.170
  • "How much do I owe you?"
  • 00:13:29.180 --> 00:13:30.240
  • And he looked at me and he said, "What is this for?"
  • 00:13:30.250 --> 00:13:32.280
  • And I said, "It's your fee for the ambulance ride."
  • 00:13:32.290 --> 00:13:35.090
  • He said, "You don't owe me any money.
  • 00:13:35.100 --> 00:13:37.110
  • This is a free service from us to you.
  • 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:39.080
  • Keep your money and take good care of yourself
  • 00:13:39.090 --> 00:13:42.080
  • and of your mother.
  • 00:13:42.090 --> 00:13:43.130
  • I wish her a speedy recovery."
  • 00:13:43.140 --> 00:13:44.250
  • And I was shocked, and I thanked him so much.
  • 00:13:44.260 --> 00:13:47.230
  • I thought to myself, "Oh, thank God.
  • 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:49.100
  • He's so nice."
  • 00:13:49.110 --> 00:13:50.160
  • And then I became angry because I realized that the Lebanese
  • 00:13:50.170 --> 00:13:55.070
  • driver who knew my parents, he was a friend of the family,
  • 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:59.100
  • basically robbed me because I knew at that time he didn't need
  • 00:13:59.110 --> 00:14:04.030
  • a fee for the ambulance.
  • 00:14:04.040 --> 00:14:05.120
  • That was a volunteered ambulance.
  • 00:14:05.130 --> 00:14:07.000
  • And that's when--that was my first lesson between the
  • 00:14:07.010 --> 00:14:10.030
  • difference between the Arabic culture and the Israeli culture.
  • 00:14:10.040 --> 00:14:13.110
  • They took my mother out of the ambulance and into the emergency
  • 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:17.140
  • room, and I remember entering the emergency room
  • 00:14:17.150 --> 00:14:19.110
  • and it was packed.
  • 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:21.190
  • There were not even enough beds for people.
  • 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:23.260
  • People were lying on the floor, brought in from Lebanon.
  • 00:14:23.270 --> 00:14:25.280
  • Literally on the floor.
  • 00:14:25.290 --> 00:14:27.230
  • People brought in everywhere.
  • 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.030
  • Soldiers--Israeli soldiers brought in from Lebanon.
  • 00:14:29.040 --> 00:14:31.210
  • Lebanese Christians brought in.
  • 00:14:31.220 --> 00:14:33.270
  • Muslim Lebanese brought in.
  • 00:14:33.280 --> 00:14:35.110
  • Palestinian terrorists wounded in the war,
  • 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.070
  • Israel advanced, brought in from Lebanon,
  • 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:40.240
  • and I couldn't believe my eyes.
  • 00:14:40.250 --> 00:14:42.200
  • I thought to myself, "I can understand why the Israelis
  • 00:14:42.210 --> 00:14:45.050
  • are treating me.
  • 00:14:45.060 --> 00:14:46.160
  • I'm their friend. I'm a Christian.
  • 00:14:46.170 --> 00:14:48.060
  • I'm their ally. I'm their buffer zone.
  • 00:14:48.070 --> 00:14:50.180
  • But why on earth are they treating the Muslims
  • 00:14:50.190 --> 00:14:54.100
  • and the Palestinians?"
  • 00:14:54.110 --> 00:14:55.250
  • Little did I know about the compassion and the values
  • 00:14:55.260 --> 00:15:01.070
  • of the Israeli culture.
  • 00:15:01.080 --> 00:15:02.210
  • Pastor, the doctor treated my mother before he treated the
  • 00:15:02.220 --> 00:15:07.030
  • Israeli soldier lying next to her because my mother's injury
  • 00:15:07.040 --> 00:15:09.270
  • was more severe than the Israeli soldier.
  • 00:15:09.280 --> 00:15:12.190
  • I couldn't believe my eyes.
  • 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.030
  • They took my mother to the fourth floor of the hospital,
  • 00:15:15.040 --> 00:15:18.130
  • and I remember feeling this tapping on my shoulder and
  • 00:15:18.140 --> 00:15:22.100
  • remember looking to my side and this Israeli nurse was
  • 00:15:22.110 --> 00:15:26.020
  • standing next to me.
  • 00:15:26.030 --> 00:15:27.140
  • And she said, "You are new here, aren't you?"
  • 00:15:27.150 --> 00:15:29.150
  • And I said, "Yes, they just brought my mother.
  • 00:15:29.160 --> 00:15:32.100
  • She's in this room."
  • 00:15:32.110 --> 00:15:33.150
  • And this lady puts her arm around me and she says,
  • 00:15:33.160 --> 00:15:37.150
  • "Oh, don't worry.
  • 00:15:37.160 --> 00:15:39.130
  • Everything's going to be fine.
  • 00:15:39.140 --> 00:15:40.200
  • We're going to take good care of your mother.
  • 00:15:40.210 --> 00:15:42.170
  • And if you need anything, just call my name.
  • 00:15:42.180 --> 00:15:44.190
  • My name is Leah."
  • 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.100
  • And I will never forget that name.
  • 00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:50.070
  • I started crying. I was so moved emotionally.
  • 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:56.290
  • I realized the values, the love, and the hearts of the Israeli
  • 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:02.280
  • people, the culture of the Israeli people.
  • 00:16:02.290 --> 00:16:05.060
  • I realized that I was fed--Arabs are feeding their children
  • 00:16:05.070 --> 00:16:12.110
  • fabricated lies about the Jews that is so far from reality.
  • 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:16.140
  • I stayed 22 days in that hospital.
  • 00:16:16.150 --> 00:16:18.250
  • Those days changed my life; changed the way I listen to the
  • 00:16:18.260 --> 00:16:21.180
  • news, changed the way I read the newspaper,
  • 00:16:21.190 --> 00:16:22.280
  • changed the way I watch television because I realized
  • 00:16:22.290 --> 00:16:26.190
  • the Jews, even though they're vilified in the eyes of the
  • 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:29.160
  • Arabic world who most Arabs will never even have a chance to meet
  • 00:16:29.170 --> 00:16:32.050
  • an Israeli, is nothing but lies.
  • 00:16:32.060 --> 00:16:34.170
  • I realized these people had more love towards their enemy,
  • 00:16:34.180 --> 00:16:37.150
  • the Palestinian.
  • 00:16:37.160 --> 00:16:38.290
  • They were able to love more than I was able to love,
  • 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:42.000
  • and I was the Christian who's supposed to
  • 00:16:42.010 --> 00:16:44.010
  • love like Jesus taught.
  • 00:16:44.020 --> 00:16:45.060
  • Jim: Well, and that's really the outflow of the
  • 00:16:45.070 --> 00:16:47.190
  • Judeo-Christian value, and you experienced it there.
  • 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:52.020
  • I don't know that many have the full understanding of the
  • 00:16:52.030 --> 00:16:55.110
  • benefit of that value even in this country.
  • 00:16:55.120 --> 00:16:59.180
  • Just the way we do treat people, the way that--you know,
  • 00:16:59.190 --> 00:17:03.080
  • and maybe they don't even believe in God or believe in the
  • 00:17:03.090 --> 00:17:05.220
  • Bible, but they're still benefiting from that basic value
  • 00:17:05.230 --> 00:17:09.290
  • and that basic understanding.
  • 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:11.210
  • Brigitte: Absolutely.
  • 00:17:11.220 --> 00:17:12.270
  • America is founded on Judeo-Christian values.
  • 00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:15.230
  • Western civilization is founded on Judeo-Christian values.
  • 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:20.020
  • When we tell people--when we teach our children--even
  • 00:17:20.030 --> 00:17:23.110
  • atheists in our country tell their little children,
  • 00:17:23.120 --> 00:17:26.060
  • "John, now treat people the way you want to be treated."
  • 00:17:26.070 --> 00:17:29.110
  • They may never step a foot in church.
  • 00:17:29.120 --> 00:17:31.060
  • Jim: And they probably don't even realize
  • 00:17:31.070 --> 00:17:32.140
  • where that came from.
  • 00:17:32.150 --> 00:17:33.190
  • Brigitte: Exactly, they don't even realize that you
  • 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:35.230
  • are--you're teaching your child, "Don't lie.
  • 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:38.230
  • Don't cheat. Don't steal.
  • 00:17:38.240 --> 00:17:40.260
  • Treat others the way you want to be treated."
  • 00:17:40.270 --> 00:17:42.280
  • Every single one of those is a commandment--you know,
  • 00:17:42.290 --> 00:17:46.050
  • part of the Ten Commandments.
  • 00:17:46.060 --> 00:17:47.180
  • And they don't realize that, but that's what makes our
  • 00:17:47.190 --> 00:17:50.250
  • society who we are.
  • 00:17:50.260 --> 00:17:52.040
  • This is why we are able to forgive our enemy and pray for
  • 00:17:52.050 --> 00:17:55.170
  • our enemy and forgive those who persecute us and trespass
  • 00:17:55.180 --> 00:17:59.050
  • against us as our Father in heaven has forgiven us.
  • 00:17:59.060 --> 00:18:02.230
  • So as a Christian, we do not hold hate.
  • 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:07.150
  • We learn how to forgive.
  • 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:09.030
  • Even if we hold a grudge, we know we are in the wrong and we
  • 00:18:09.040 --> 00:18:12.220
  • pray that God will help us forgive.
  • 00:18:12.230 --> 00:18:14.250
  • It's built into us, and this is what the Islamic world
  • 00:18:14.260 --> 00:18:19.110
  • does not have.
  • 00:18:19.120 --> 00:18:20.170
  • Jim: Well, the big contrast between Islam and the
  • 00:18:20.180 --> 00:18:23.150
  • Judeo-Christian value is a stark,
  • 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:28.030
  • but most people don't get it, don't understand it.
  • 00:18:28.040 --> 00:18:30.180
  • They think if we bring it up, then you are Islamaphobic or
  • 00:18:30.190 --> 00:18:35.010
  • hateful, but you're speaking of something opposite of hateful.
  • 00:18:35.020 --> 00:18:39.150
  • You're speaking of genuine love that the Bible teaches us.
  • 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:44.060
  • When you got to the United States--and maybe just quickly
  • 00:18:44.070 --> 00:18:46.200
  • tell how you got here.
  • 00:18:46.210 --> 00:18:47.270
  • But was it everything you thought it would be?
  • 00:18:47.280 --> 00:18:50.120
  • Brigitte: Wow. I got to America by marriage.
  • 00:18:50.130 --> 00:18:53.250
  • When I was working in Israel, I met an American journalist and
  • 00:18:53.260 --> 00:18:56.290
  • we ended up getting married actually at Christ Church in the
  • 00:18:57.000 --> 00:18:59.280
  • old city of Jerusalem in Jerusalem.
  • 00:18:59.290 --> 00:19:01.250
  • And I thought, "I'm going to come to America.
  • 00:19:01.260 --> 00:19:04.020
  • I'm going to leave the Middle East."
  • 00:19:04.030 --> 00:19:05.210
  • And I thought I left all the crazies behind.
  • 00:19:05.220 --> 00:19:07.090
  • My husband and I started our business,
  • 00:19:07.100 --> 00:19:08.250
  • we had two children, and I thought, "I left the crazies
  • 00:19:08.260 --> 00:19:12.000
  • behind," you know?
  • 00:19:12.010 --> 00:19:13.060
  • September 11th changed all that for me.
  • 00:19:13.070 --> 00:19:16.000
  • Jim: But 9/11 affected, I think, hopefully all of us.
  • 00:19:16.010 --> 00:19:20.000
  • It certainly did at that time the psyche of America.
  • 00:19:20.010 --> 00:19:23.200
  • It impacted us deeply because, first of all,
  • 00:19:23.210 --> 00:19:27.180
  • they used an airliner with innocent people as a weapon,
  • 00:19:27.190 --> 00:19:31.030
  • and then we saw the buildings crumbling and collapsing.
  • 00:19:31.040 --> 00:19:34.050
  • You saw all these things, and there was a pivotal moment that
  • 00:19:34.060 --> 00:19:36.210
  • brought you to get out there and encourage people to be active
  • 00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:42.250
  • in telling the story of what's really the
  • 00:19:42.260 --> 00:19:46.040
  • dangers to our country.
  • 00:19:46.050 --> 00:19:47.100
  • 9/11 impacted you because your daughters saw you crying.
  • 00:19:47.110 --> 00:19:51.160
  • Brigitte: 9/11 was a defining moment for the United States.
  • 00:19:51.170 --> 00:19:56.010
  • On 9/11, we all did the same thing,
  • 00:19:56.020 --> 00:19:57.280
  • whether you are a Christian, an atheist,
  • 00:19:57.290 --> 00:19:59.200
  • a Buddhist, a Hindu, a--well, everybody
  • 00:19:59.210 --> 00:20:03.090
  • in America was impacted.
  • 00:20:03.100 --> 00:20:05.080
  • We all cried. We all watched our TV screen.
  • 00:20:05.090 --> 00:20:07.250
  • We were glued to our TV screens watching the images of the World
  • 00:20:07.260 --> 00:20:10.190
  • Trade Center come down again and again and again,
  • 00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:12.160
  • and we could not understand how can people hate us so much.
  • 00:20:12.170 --> 00:20:15.240
  • How can they hijack airliners and use them as human missiles,
  • 00:20:15.250 --> 00:20:19.150
  • flying them into buildings with the intention of killing tens of
  • 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.140
  • thousands of people?
  • 00:20:23.150 --> 00:20:25.000
  • You know, we lucked out that--because if they would have
  • 00:20:25.010 --> 00:20:28.130
  • done it 15 minutes later, 50.000 people worked
  • 00:20:28.140 --> 00:20:31.210
  • in those buildings.
  • 00:20:31.220 --> 00:20:32.260
  • My daughter's walked home from school that day.
  • 00:20:32.270 --> 00:20:35.090
  • And my daughter looked at me and she said,
  • 00:20:35.100 --> 00:20:37.280
  • "Mommy, why did they do this to us?"
  • 00:20:37.290 --> 00:20:41.130
  • And I found myself looking into my daughter's eyes and repeating
  • 00:20:41.140 --> 00:20:44.240
  • to her the exact same words my father said to me when I was
  • 00:20:44.250 --> 00:20:48.290
  • wounded in a hospital bed in Lebanon.
  • 00:20:49.000 --> 00:20:52.290
  • When I looked at my father's eyes and said,
  • 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:55.150
  • "Why did they do this to us?"
  • 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:57.190
  • And my father would tell me, "Because we are Christians.
  • 00:20:57.200 --> 00:21:00.280
  • The Muslims consider us infidels and they want to kill us."
  • 00:21:00.290 --> 00:21:03.200
  • So I learned since I was a 10-year-old little girl that
  • 00:21:03.210 --> 00:21:07.210
  • I am wanted dead simply because I was born into the Christian
  • 00:21:07.220 --> 00:21:10.260
  • faith and lived in a Christian town.
  • 00:21:10.270 --> 00:21:12.240
  • So here we were in America and I had to repeat the same words
  • 00:21:12.250 --> 00:21:17.100
  • to my daughter.
  • 00:21:17.110 --> 00:21:18.190
  • "They hate us because they consider us infidels and they
  • 00:21:18.200 --> 00:21:21.240
  • want to kill us."
  • 00:21:21.250 --> 00:21:23.010
  • Here we were two generations apart, 8.000 miles apart.
  • 00:21:23.020 --> 00:21:27.220
  • I was a young Lebanese girl, she's a young American girl.
  • 00:21:27.230 --> 00:21:29.270
  • I spoke Arabic, she speaks English.
  • 00:21:29.280 --> 00:21:32.240
  • Two continents apart, 30 years apart,
  • 00:21:32.250 --> 00:21:35.080
  • and I had to say to her the same words.
  • 00:21:35.090 --> 00:21:38.230
  • That day was my defining moment.
  • 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:42.200
  • That's the day I vowed that I will do everything I can to make
  • 00:21:42.210 --> 00:21:46.220
  • sure that my daughter will never ever have to look into her
  • 00:21:46.230 --> 00:21:50.130
  • child's eyes and repeat to him or to her what my daddy said to
  • 00:21:50.140 --> 00:21:55.140
  • me and what I had to say to her.
  • 00:21:55.150 --> 00:21:57.130
  • That day I was reborn as an activist.
  • 00:21:57.140 --> 00:22:01.040
  • That's the day I sat around for--you know,
  • 00:22:01.050 --> 00:22:04.000
  • September 11th happened on a Tuesday morning.
  • 00:22:04.010 --> 00:22:06.000
  • From Tuesday morning until Sunday,
  • 00:22:06.010 --> 00:22:08.230
  • I remember laying in my living room in my pajamas watching
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  • television just in total devastation because hearing the
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  • wails of the parents screaming for their children,
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  • for their loved ones around the World Trade Center,
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  • looking for them.
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  • I could hear my parents' voice screaming for me when I was
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  • pinned under a wall, under the rubble in my home.
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  • I could--you know, you see the pictures of the smoke coming
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  • from the rubble of 9/11 and the firefighters and the police.
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  • I could smell the smoke after the bombing of my home.
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  • I related to it in a totally different level than most
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  • Americans related to it.
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  • And because of the way it affected my life,
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  • terrorism, I knew the importance of national security.
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  • I knew the importance of being raised in a safe country,
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  • in a safe community where your children feel safe,
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  • where you can go to bed at night and wake up in the morning and
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  • realize, "I'm going to be okay."
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  • Jim: Well, here's the bottom line.
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  • Truth wins. You're passionate about that.
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  • God is using you and will use you to hopefully keep us free,
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  • and I appreciate your passion.
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  • Brigitte: Thank you.
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  • Jim: And hope the best for you 'cause we need to wake up.
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  • Brigitte: Thank you.
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  • Jim: What a wonderful story that Brigitte told us today.
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  • And it's a story of hardship and persecution,
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  • but it's also a story of God's grace and his
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  • protection and provision.
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  • And she and I believe that no matter what background you're
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  • from, no matter what country you're from,
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  • what language, your skin color, we are all in need of salvation.
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  • We are all in need of being saved from hell to heaven.
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  • And it's not by religion, it's not by a priest, a pastor.
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  • It's by the person and work of Jesus.
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  • The Bible says that Jesus is the creator.
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  • He is also the one that came perfect and innocent born in
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  • Israel--born in Bethlehem.
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  • He grew up, he never sinned, but he was put on to a cross.
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  • The Bible says that he was buried after he died,
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  • and three days later he rose again.
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  • That is the most important thing.
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  • Did he rise?
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  • If he did, he is who he said he was,
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  • the Son of God, and he wants to save you and he wants to forgive
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  • you of your sins.
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  • He's already paid for your sins.
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  • He wants to offer you that pardon.
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  • That's the beauty of Christianity,
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  • of Biblical Christianity; is that there's hope beyond the
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  • grave and we can know for certain today that we
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  • have eternal life.
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  • But we first must understand that we have a problem
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  • and that's called sin.
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  • Let this represent sin, and all of us have sinned.
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  • We've fallen short of the glory of God.
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  • This is the Lord Jesus.
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  • He was perfect and we have sinned,
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  • and it separates us from God.
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  • But he loves you.
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  • "God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that
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  • whosoever believeth in him," watch what happens,
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  • "should not perish, but have everlasting life."
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  • My friend, that is the most important thing I could ever
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  • share with you, in that there's hope beyond the grave and the
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  • Lord Jesus Christ has paid our sin and all we must do
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  • is believe on him.
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  • He paid your sin debt. He loves you.
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  • He wants you to spend eternity with him.
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  • If you'll believe on the Lord Jesus Christ,
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  • today, right now you will be saved.
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  • God bless you, and I hope today you've put your trust in Jesus.
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  • Jim: So we made it kind of to the trailhead for the--
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  • of the sequoias.
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