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  • Christy Henderson: All right, well, welcome to this
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  • very special edition of "The Encouraging Word."
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  • We are really excited to have Dr. Wilton with us to tell us
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  • a little bit more about a book that he wrote and a book
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  • that I recently read.
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  • You may have too.
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  • It's called "The Absolute Certainty of Life After Death."
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  • So we're gonna get a chance to ask the author a few questions
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  • about the book itself and what prompted him to write this book.
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  • Thanks for bein' here, Dr. Wilton.
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  • Dr. Don Wilton: Well, thank you, Christy.
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  • I couldn't be more delighted than speaking about
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  • "The Absolute Certainty of Life After Death," because
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  • we all think about it, and we're all engaged in it.
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  • Christy: Yeah, that's true, and you just look at the title,
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  • "The Absolute Certainty of Life After Death," and everybody
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  • wonders about that.
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  • I mean, we're all kind of thinking that way, and the title
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  • itself is fascinating.
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  • I'm wondering what life events happened for you to stop
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  • everything-- 'cause you preach on this subject all the time.
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  • What made you sit down and write this book?
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  • Dr. Wilton: Well Christy, back in 2003, I was with a whole
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  • lot of young people, actually, in Texas, and I noticed that my
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  • arm began to swell up, and I came back home, and in a very
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  • short space of time, medical folks told me that I had
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  • developed a problem.
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  • I went to the hospital.
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  • I never left there.
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  • Turned out that I had a blood clot in my shoulder and had to
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  • go straight from there.
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  • Went into surgery for over four hours, and I'm glad to say they
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  • fixed everything up, but during that procedure, the doctor had
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  • told me, prior to that, he said, "Listen, blood clots are blood
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  • clots.
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  • You can die from this, and I just want you to know."
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  • I said, "Well, thank you very much," you know?
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  • "Thanks a lot."
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  • Great news, you know, just before you go to sleep.
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  • And I was in, sort of, la-la land and just found myself
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  • drifting around, so to speak.
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  • How do you explain that?
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  • And I saw myself--I saw myself lying on the table.
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  • I saw the doctor working on me, and I saw and heard the doctor
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  • turn to my wife and say, "I'm sorry, Karyn, but he's gone," to
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  • my wife, and she loves me, and he put his arm around her, and I
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  • just remember the peace that I had in my heart.
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  • I mean, it was just an incredible--everything was
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  • bright and light, and I was just peaceful, and in the next
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  • second, I guess, I was back.
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  • I was being wheeled out into ICU, and as I began to come
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  • around and go through that experience, all of a sudden,
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  • I said, "What is this?"
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  • And, you know, knowing the Lord Jesus, I believe in life after
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  • death in Christ, and so I sat down, and I began to write this
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  • book, and it's just a novel, Christy, but it's a story, and
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  • what I did, God just flowed through me, and out of this
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  • experience, my own life experience, came "The Absolute
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  • Certainty of Life After Death."
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  • Christy: How long did it take you to write this?
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  • Dr. Wilton: It took me about two weeks.
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  • Christy: Really? Dr. Wilton: Yes.
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  • Christy: So it just flowed out.
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  • Dr. Wilton: It just flowed out of me, and, by the way, I
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  • had the time because I wasn't allowed to go anywhere.
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  • Christy: So you had a little time to write.
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  • Dr. Wilton: I just was in one place on one bed.
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  • Christy: So you mentioned this was a novel.
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  • It's fiction with fictional characters, but it is based on a
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  • parable that Jesus told in the book of Luke.
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  • Dr. Wilton: That's correct, Luke chapter 16.
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  • Christy: Tell us about that parable.
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  • Dr. Wilton: Well, Jesus said that there were two people, two
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  • men, and they both lived.
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  • They both died.
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  • One went to heaven, and one went to hell.
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  • And, by the way, Jesus told the story, and all of the Bible is
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  • true, but I pay particular attention for the fact that
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  • Jesus said this, and Jesus never tells us anything that didn't
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  • actually happen.
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  • This was not a fictional character.
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  • Jesus didn't call over the angels and say, "Angels come
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  • over here.
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  • Help me to make up a story so I can give people, like Dr.
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  • Don Wilton, somethin' to preach about on "The Encouraging Word"
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  • or to write about in a book.
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  • I take what Jesus said to be what God is saying, and he told
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  • the story about the reality of these two people in their life
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  • after to death, so I took what Jesus said, and I wrote a novel
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  • about two characters in real places where I've been to, from
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  • Louisiana, to the United States, to Europe.
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  • They're all real, with the names and the places and the feelings
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  • and the interactiveness, all my years in the great state of
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  • Louisiana, and all the fun and the things, and the food, you
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  • know, the crawfish.
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  • Christy: You could definitely fill in the blanks on some of
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  • the locations in here.
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  • Dr. Wilton: Oh, I love it, love, love all of that, and some
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  • of the finest people in the world that I lived among and
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  • served among all those years, and then, of course, overseas in
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  • Europe, with my background, and places I've been to in France
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  • and in Italy, and so on, so forth, and God brought all of
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  • that together in these two main characters of mine, and I tell
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  • the story of them living their life, where they came from,
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  • their perspective, then how they died, and what happened to them
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  • after they died.
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  • Christy: Yeah, their choices.
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  • It came--not just their situation, but their choices, it
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  • seems like, the two main characters there.
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  • Now, this book is told in three main parts.
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  • You want to briefly summarize the three main parts?
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  • Dr. Wilton: Well, the first part, essentially--and we're
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  • summarizing it, right?
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  • Christy: Yeah, right.
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  • Dr. Wilton: The first part is about these two men, okay, who
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  • grow up, their birth, their growing up, and their
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  • context--very important.
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  • Who were they?
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  • What made them tick?
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  • Their--even some of the childhood.
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  • I mean, I even laughed, some of the things I was--the
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  • naughtiness of children and what they got up to, you know?
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  • And I've had people all over the country tell me how they just
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  • pack up because they can see themselves.
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  • I'll tell you a little hint here: A lot of that in me too,
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  • you know.
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  • Christy: It's very relatable.
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  • Dr. Wilton: So the first part is about that.
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  • The second part is how they go about this mysterious thing
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  • called "dying."
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  • They both get sick.
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  • I even describe their diseases, and I consulted the medical
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  • community.
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  • I didn't just--I wrote, but I wrote with meaning and with
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  • purpose.
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  • What happens to a person when they die?
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  • Now, I wanna know that because we're all going to die.
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  • I've been around death, so many years, and I've held many, many
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  • hands.
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  • And so many of our loved ones, we want to know.
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  • What is this?
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  • It's this big mystery.
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  • What happens when you die suddenly?
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  • What happens if you get sick and you die slowly?
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  • What happens if you die in pain?
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  • What happens?
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  • Well, I just described these two men, my characters, and the
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  • process of dying.
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  • So that's the second part.
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  • The third part is what happens the moment they die?
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  • What were they thinking?
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  • Were they thinking?
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  • Did they just suddenly stop?
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  • Now, I don't have any problem with what I think because I've
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  • stood with many a precious person who has died.
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  • To me, I look at them, and I say, "They did."
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  • My heart's sad.
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  • I'm sorrowful.
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  • But are they?
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  • And why would Jesus--Christy, why would Jesus tell us that we
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  • keep living?
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  • Now, I'm trying to wrap my minds around this because, when I look
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  • at someone who's died, they have no life, but Jesus says they do.
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  • Christy: It's not the last chapter.
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  • Dr. Wilton: T's not the last chapter, and not only do we have
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  • life, but we have life in a specific place, and there's only
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  • one of two places, so I just took what Jesus said.
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  • Then I went back into the Bible, and I studied these two places,
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  • and I told the story in the third part around these two
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  • places, and I'm gonna tell you something, Christy.
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  • Don't, for one minute, think.
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  • Trying to describe hell was not a nice thing for me.
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  • Christy: I was gonna ask you if either of the two characters
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  • were harder to write about in their situation there in part
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  • three, whether they were in heaven or hell.
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  • Dr. Wilton: Well, when Billy Bob died and went off to heaven,
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  • I wrote with the greatest joy.
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  • I'm just telling you, it just flowed out of my heart, and I
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  • just kept thanking God that I belong to him, and I knew that,
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  • because I did, everybody could, you know, 'cause God's got no
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  • restrictions on any person.
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  • It doesn't matter how old, young, what race, what culture,
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  • what background.
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  • God loves us, and Jesus died for all of us, so that's Billy Bob.
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  • So I write this incredible account of heaven, but then I
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  • had to write about the other fellow,
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  • and I'll tell you something.
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  • It flowed out of me, but only because I believe the Bible.
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  • Christy: And Albright had everything at his fingertips, it
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  • seems like, and he had a terrible thing waiting for him,
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  • based on his choice.
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  • Is that right?
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  • Dr. Wilton: Well, you know, Albright, I tried so hard to
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  • love Albright because I've met Albright everywhere in America,
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  • and I made Billy Bob everywhere in America, you know?
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  • But Albright, in particular, he was an American man--classic,
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  • lived a life of great blessing, great privilege, did well,
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  • succeeded--and his whole background, which I spent a lot
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  • of time on it--and his family, and he's traveled.
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  • You know, that's me.
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  • I mean, I love to be all over the place and go here, and, of
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  • course, the book reflects that, you know.
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  • I love it.
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  • I love traveling and being in this place and that place, and
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  • being with my family and the grandkids, you know, all of it.
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  • But, you know, Albright had this barrier.
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  • He didn't know Jesus.
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  • He had all the trappings, and he masqueraded and he--I think
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  • Albright genuinely thought, because he went to church once
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  • in a while, that God would let him into heaven, and he was
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  • absolutely wrong.
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  • And I think that he really thought--I don't say this then,
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  • but I think maybe he even thought, because he was an
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  • American citizen, maybe God would let him into heaven
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  • because at least he wasn't born in one of these other countries,
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  • you know?
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  • Christy: Yeah, he seemed to have a lot of power, influence,
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  • and money.
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  • Do you think that it is wrong for people to have or seek power
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  • and influence and money during this lifetime?
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  • Dr. Wilton: Absolutely not.
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  • In fact, the very opposite is true.
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  • I don't preach prosperity gospel.
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  • I don't believe it, but I will tell you this: Why don't you try
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  • and just trust God to bless you?
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  • Because he does.
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  • God wants to prosper us, and I believe all across, I've made
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  • scores of the most wonderful men and women who have succeeded in
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  • life, have been blessed with millions of dollars, with
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  • beautiful homes, with planes, their own private "this,"
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  • and they are the most wonderful Christian people, but Jesus did
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  • say this--so I gotta put this in here, Christy.
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  • He said, "It is harder for a rich man to enter the kingdom of
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  • God than it is for a camel to go through the eye of a needle."
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  • Christy: And why is that?
  • 00:13:14.050 --> 00:13:15.230
  • Dr. Wilton: Because when we are blessed--I'm one of those.
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  • When we are blessed, it's harder for a person who has everything
  • 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:26.070
  • to see their need of anything, and the more a person is blessed
  • 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:32.260
  • before they come to know Christ, the more the question is "Well,
  • 00:13:32.270 --> 00:13:36.150
  • why do I need Jesus?
  • 00:13:36.160 --> 00:13:38.130
  • I mean, he says, 'My God shall supply all your need according
  • 00:13:38.140 --> 00:13:42.100
  • to his riches in glory--' Well, I don't need any need supplied.
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  • I don't worry where my food comes from.
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  • I don't worry."
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  • That is why, Christy, I've been to Third World countries around
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  • the world from Africa to Asia.
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  • You can go and preach on the street corner, and thousands of
  • 00:13:57.010 --> 00:14:01.280
  • people gather.
  • 00:14:01.290 --> 00:14:03.190
  • Why?
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  • But you try and do that in America, and somebody will come
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  • up and stone you.
  • 00:14:09.110 --> 00:14:10.130
  • They'll think you've lost your marbles, all right?
  • 00:14:10.140 --> 00:14:13.020
  • What is this?
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  • It's an affront to our society, and I'm being radical when I say
  • 00:14:14.110 --> 00:14:19.170
  • that, all right, but rich people are so blessed, and when I talk
  • 00:14:19.180 --> 00:14:28.290
  • about richness, I'm not just talking about the dollar, but in
  • 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:34.180
  • Albright's case, that was the truth.
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  • He was a fantastic businessman.
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  • He was surrounded by comfort.
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  • He didn't have to think about where something was coming on.
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  • I mean, I even have him sitting on his plane ordering, you know,
  • 00:14:46.270 --> 00:14:50.140
  • one drink after another and going to this place and a
  • 00:14:50.150 --> 00:14:53.160
  • holiday at home here, and isn't that wonderful?
  • 00:14:53.170 --> 00:14:57.230
  • There is nothing wrong with any of that, but his need was that
  • 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:02.280
  • all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, and he
  • 00:15:02.290 --> 00:15:06.230
  • would not--he knew what he needed to do, but he saw no need
  • 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:11.100
  • to do it, and I think with well-placed people, the number
  • 00:15:11.110 --> 00:15:16.200
  • one thing that gets in the way is pride--I really do.
  • 00:15:16.210 --> 00:15:21.070
  • It's a pride thing.
  • 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:23.010
  • They kind of say, "Hmph, you know, man, if I go and give my
  • 00:15:23.020 --> 00:15:28.020
  • heart to Jesus, what's everybody gonna think of me?"
  • 00:15:28.030 --> 00:15:31.040
  • But now they will have no problem going to the club or to
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  • the ball game or facilitating.
  • 00:15:36.130 --> 00:15:39.030
  • Well, I do all of that.
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  • I love all of that.
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  • Give me the golf club. Give me the ball game.
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  • I love to get up there and shout and whoop and holler with the
  • 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:47.260
  • best of them, but I've got Jesus in my heart, and I know that
  • 00:15:47.270 --> 00:15:52.120
  • Jesus has given to me forgiveness of sin.
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  • Money can't do that.
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  • He's given to me peace in my heart.
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  • Blessings can't give that to me.
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  • He's given to me purpose in my life, and he's given me life
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  • after death.
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  • Not even my wonderful family can do that.
  • 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:11.200
  • I could be married to the most wonderful lady--and I am, and I
  • 00:16:11.210 --> 00:16:15.240
  • love her to bits.
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  • She's my best friend, and I'm besotted over her, and we love
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  • each other, but not even Karyn can give to me life after death.
  • 00:16:22.100 --> 00:16:27.020
  • Christy: When you read this book, you really get a sense of
  • 00:16:27.030 --> 00:16:29.050
  • urgency.
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  • Would you say that that urgency is directed only to unbelievers
  • 00:16:30.140 --> 00:16:34.220
  • that might be reading this book?
  • 00:16:34.230 --> 00:16:36.270
  • Dr. Wilton: No, Christy.
  • 00:16:36.280 --> 00:16:37.240
  • You know, that's a great question.
  • 00:16:37.250 --> 00:16:40.280
  • I think the urgency when you read that book-- 'cause a lot of
  • 00:16:40.290 --> 00:16:44.190
  • people have told me this--first of all, strikes the heart of
  • 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:48.280
  • people like me who believe.
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  • So let me talk about me.
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  • I'm a preacher of the Gospel.
  • 00:16:52.130 --> 00:16:55.100
  • I preach on "The Encouraging Word," across the nation and
  • 00:16:55.110 --> 00:16:59.280
  • around the world.
  • 00:16:59.290 --> 00:17:01.100
  • I'm loved by a local congregation of people in
  • 00:17:01.110 --> 00:17:04.100
  • Spartanburg, South Carolina.
  • 00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:06.170
  • I'm so privileged, but I'm tellin' you, when I wrote that,
  • 00:17:06.180 --> 00:17:11.120
  • an urgency came out of me.
  • 00:17:11.130 --> 00:17:14.020
  • What was the urgency?
  • 00:17:14.030 --> 00:17:15.290
  • To tell as many people I can about this good news.
  • 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:20.080
  • Could I put it in more dramatic terms?
  • 00:17:20.090 --> 00:17:22.210
  • My urgency is, every time I see a person, rich or poor, I don't
  • 00:17:22.220 --> 00:17:29.100
  • see people through a lens.
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  • I see people as people.
  • 00:17:31.180 --> 00:17:33.260
  • Doesn't matter who they are--old, young, male, female,
  • 00:17:33.270 --> 00:17:37.210
  • tall, and short.
  • 00:17:37.220 --> 00:17:38.280
  • The urgency of that book and what Jesus said in Luke 16, is
  • 00:17:38.290 --> 00:17:44.090
  • "Do they know Jesus?
  • 00:17:44.100 --> 00:17:46.010
  • Do you know Jesus?
  • 00:17:46.020 --> 00:17:47.170
  • Have you given your heart to Jesus?"
  • 00:17:47.180 --> 00:17:49.050
  • not "Well, do you go to church?"
  • 00:17:49.060 --> 00:17:52.070
  • What kind of question is that?
  • 00:17:52.080 --> 00:17:55.040
  • They asked that of Albright.
  • 00:17:55.050 --> 00:17:56.210
  • He went to church, but he didn't go to heaven.
  • 00:17:56.220 --> 00:18:01.040
  • Here's another question.
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  • "Do you give your money to the poor?
  • 00:18:03.090 --> 00:18:06.070
  • Are you benevolent?
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  • Do you help support missions?"
  • 00:18:07.180 --> 00:18:10.140
  • Well, what kind of question is that?
  • 00:18:10.150 --> 00:18:12.150
  • Albright did.
  • 00:18:14.170 --> 00:18:15.170
  • You can support missions but not go to heaven.
  • 00:18:15.180 --> 00:18:20.150
  • What's the fine line?
  • 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:22.030
  • "Do you know Jesus?"
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  • Christy: That's the main question, and people have so
  • 00:18:24.100 --> 00:18:26.200
  • many questions about death.
  • 00:18:26.210 --> 00:18:27.290
  • You know, "When a relative of mine dies, can they see me on
  • 00:18:28.000 --> 00:18:31.110
  • earth?
  • 00:18:31.120 --> 00:18:32.060
  • What happens when we die?"
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  • This book seems to address a lot of those questions that people
  • 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:36.270
  • may have when they read this.
  • 00:18:36.280 --> 00:18:38.110
  • Dr. Wilton: Those are the difficult ones, aren't they?
  • 00:18:38.120 --> 00:18:40.060
  • Christy: Yeah, they are.
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  • Dr. Wilton: So where do I go for that?
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  • Jesus.
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  • And, listen, Jesus took three of his disciples onto a mountain.
  • 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:53.190
  • And, by the way, I've been to the same mountain called the
  • 00:18:53.200 --> 00:18:55.290
  • Mount of Transfiguration.
  • 00:18:56.000 --> 00:18:58.190
  • And he took on his resurrection body there, and guess who they
  • 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:03.150
  • saw on that mountain?
  • 00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.040
  • Moses and Elijah.
  • 00:19:05.050 --> 00:19:07.040
  • And let me just tell you, Moses and Elijah had been dead for a
  • 00:19:07.050 --> 00:19:09.280
  • bunch of years.
  • 00:19:09.290 --> 00:19:11.170
  • So I'm gonna be very graphic here.
  • 00:19:11.180 --> 00:19:13.070
  • They were nothing but dust.
  • 00:19:13.080 --> 00:19:15.120
  • So don't dig up any grave you like of people who have died,
  • 00:19:15.130 --> 00:19:18.230
  • and you're not gonna find a whole lot there--dust to dust,
  • 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:21.150
  • all right?
  • 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.170
  • And that's another story, by the way.
  • 00:19:23.180 --> 00:19:25.040
  • Why do we go back to dust?
  • 00:19:25.050 --> 00:19:26.160
  • Because it was from dust that God made us.
  • 00:19:26.170 --> 00:19:29.090
  • Don't forget that.
  • 00:19:29.100 --> 00:19:30.220
  • He created man and woman from the dust of the earth.
  • 00:19:30.230 --> 00:19:34.190
  • So we go back to dust in death, out of which he recreates us
  • 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:41.130
  • into our absolute certainty of life after death forever.
  • 00:19:41.140 --> 00:19:46.260
  • It's the recreation.
  • 00:19:46.270 --> 00:19:48.040
  • We go back to the Garden of Eden, and that's what I'm
  • 00:19:48.050 --> 00:19:50.280
  • showing here in this book, and I wind that all the way back.
  • 00:19:50.290 --> 00:19:55.210
  • When people die, all people who die see us.
  • 00:19:55.220 --> 00:20:03.190
  • They know us, but they know us and see us perfectly.
  • 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:09.090
  • Now, I'm gonna really crack you up here.
  • 00:20:09.100 --> 00:20:14.270
  • I had one lady who read this--I've gotta tell you this.
  • 00:20:14.280 --> 00:20:21.200
  • I'm going where angels fear to tread--and she'd been married to
  • 00:20:21.210 --> 00:20:25.060
  • a wonderful man for, like, 40 years, and he went to heaven,
  • 00:20:25.070 --> 00:20:29.140
  • and 5 years later, she made a wonderful man, and she married
  • 00:20:29.150 --> 00:20:34.170
  • him, and they were very happy, and she read "The Absolute
  • 00:20:34.180 --> 00:20:37.270
  • Certainty." She came to see me.
  • 00:20:37.280 --> 00:20:40.050
  • She said to me, Dr. Wilton," she said, "I'm so nervous."
  • 00:20:40.060 --> 00:20:44.100
  • I said, "What?"
  • 00:20:44.110 --> 00:20:46.010
  • She said, "My husband, who died, is gonna kill me because you're
  • 00:20:46.020 --> 00:20:52.040
  • saying in there that people who have died see us and know us, so
  • 00:20:52.050 --> 00:20:56.100
  • he's up there, saying, 'Just wait until I get my hands on
  • 00:20:56.110 --> 00:20:59.140
  • this new husband,'" right?
  • 00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:01.190
  • Christy: Yeah, that's what you'd think.
  • 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:03.040
  • Dr. Wilton: Isn't that real?
  • 00:21:03.050 --> 00:21:04.030
  • Christy: Yeah.
  • 00:21:04.040 --> 00:21:04.290
  • Dr. Wilton: You know what I said to her?
  • 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.180
  • "Total peace in your heart because your husband is seeing,
  • 00:21:06.190 --> 00:21:10.140
  • knowing, doing perfectly."
  • 00:21:10.150 --> 00:21:14.140
  • Okay, now, how do you describe "perfect"?
  • 00:21:14.150 --> 00:21:17.140
  • "Perfect" means there is no angst.
  • 00:21:17.150 --> 00:21:21.000
  • There's no worry.
  • 00:21:21.010 --> 00:21:22.280
  • Now, get this one.
  • 00:21:22.290 --> 00:21:25.140
  • There's no ownership.
  • 00:21:25.150 --> 00:21:27.110
  • She doesn't belong in an "ownership" sense.
  • 00:21:27.120 --> 00:21:31.290
  • She is in a "love" sense, but not in--she doesn't belong
  • 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:35.260
  • because you can't own anything.
  • 00:21:35.270 --> 00:21:37.210
  • "Owning" is a human attribute, all right?
  • 00:21:37.220 --> 00:21:41.170
  • Mad--there is no tears, no anger, no upset, no
  • 00:21:41.180 --> 00:21:48.050
  • possessiveness, so he is seeing this perfectly, right?
  • 00:21:48.060 --> 00:21:53.100
  • So the bottom line is, if anything at all, he's as happy
  • 00:21:53.110 --> 00:21:57.160
  • as a lark.
  • 00:21:57.170 --> 00:21:58.210
  • Christy: Yeah, that's a blessing just knowing that.
  • 00:21:58.220 --> 00:22:00.150
  • Dr. Wilton: Oh, yeah, you're free.
  • 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.010
  • Christy: So what kind of personal blessings did you
  • 00:22:02.020 --> 00:22:04.280
  • receive after you wrote this book?
  • 00:22:04.290 --> 00:22:07.180
  • Dr. Wilton: Number one, head and shoulders, my own daughter,
  • 00:22:07.190 --> 00:22:11.020
  • Shelley.
  • 00:22:11.030 --> 00:22:12.100
  • I love her to bits.
  • 00:22:12.110 --> 00:22:13.150
  • She's our baby and--but don't think of her as a baby.
  • 00:22:13.160 --> 00:22:17.140
  • She's a beautiful girl, and I'm so proud of her, and today she
  • 00:22:17.150 --> 00:22:22.240
  • serves with the great Samaritan's Purse organization,
  • 00:22:22.250 --> 00:22:26.120
  • and she's actually stationed in a very difficult area in Africa,
  • 00:22:26.130 --> 00:22:31.260
  • and she's in humanitarian Christian work there with
  • 00:22:31.270 --> 00:22:34.200
  • Samaritan's Purse, involved all over the world.
  • 00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:37.180
  • And I haven't seen her for the last year, and we talk a lot, by
  • 00:22:37.190 --> 00:22:42.170
  • the way.
  • 00:22:42.180 --> 00:22:43.230
  • Thank the Lord for WhatsApp and things like that, but let me
  • 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:47.180
  • tell you about my daughter.
  • 00:22:47.190 --> 00:22:49.220
  • My daughter grew up in our home.
  • 00:22:49.230 --> 00:22:52.140
  • She grew up in a good Christian home.
  • 00:22:52.150 --> 00:22:54.210
  • She was loved to bits, two older brothers who just loved her, and
  • 00:22:54.220 --> 00:22:58.160
  • she knew.
  • 00:22:58.170 --> 00:23:01.230
  • She went to church, she went to youth group, she went on camps,
  • 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:06.010
  • she went on missions, and, besides, she was my daughter.
  • 00:23:06.020 --> 00:23:07.110
  • I'm sure she got real tired of it, but she heard me preach a
  • 00:23:07.120 --> 00:23:13.260
  • bunch of times and talk about Jesus, but she battled.
  • 00:23:13.270 --> 00:23:19.100
  • She battled with her own salvation, knowing Jesus.
  • 00:23:19.110 --> 00:23:23.220
  • You see, God doesn't have a family plan for salvation.
  • 00:23:23.230 --> 00:23:27.160
  • You don't know Jesus because your husband does or because
  • 00:23:27.170 --> 00:23:31.010
  • your mother or father do.
  • 00:23:31.020 --> 00:23:32.240
  • That's the wonderful thing about knowing Jesus.
  • 00:23:32.250 --> 00:23:35.030
  • He brings me into a personal relationship with him.
  • 00:23:35.040 --> 00:23:38.180
  • Well, we were out of town.
  • 00:23:38.190 --> 00:23:40.070
  • We were on a holiday somewhere.
  • 00:23:40.080 --> 00:23:41.190
  • I was probably on a beach.
  • 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.200
  • I was fishing, doing something I like.
  • 00:23:43.210 --> 00:23:45.100
  • When we came back, there was a letter sitting on my desk at
  • 00:23:45.110 --> 00:23:49.080
  • home: "Daddy, I need to tell you something."
  • 00:23:49.090 --> 00:23:55.090
  • She said, "I walked into the house, came home from college,"
  • 00:23:55.100 --> 00:23:58.030
  • and she said, "I sat down and picked up your book, 'The
  • 00:23:58.040 --> 00:24:01.240
  • Absolute Certainty of Life After Death--'" She said, "I sat here
  • 00:24:01.250 --> 00:24:05.210
  • and read it from cover to cover.
  • 00:24:05.220 --> 00:24:08.070
  • When I got reading it, I gave my heart to Jesus."
  • 00:24:08.080 --> 00:24:12.040
  • Christy: Wow.
  • 00:24:14.130 --> 00:24:15.160
  • Dr. Wilton: And my own daughter, preacher's daughter,
  • 00:24:15.170 --> 00:24:20.230
  • all the background, a classic "Albright," maybe, without the
  • 00:24:20.240 --> 00:24:26.160
  • private plane, gave her heart to Jesus, and my daughter's life
  • 00:24:26.170 --> 00:24:32.090
  • turned around completely.
  • 00:24:32.100 --> 00:24:34.160
  • Now, if I can say this, I've thanked the Lord from that day
  • 00:24:34.170 --> 00:24:40.260
  • because I see the fire in her heart, the love she has for her
  • 00:24:40.270 --> 00:24:44.240
  • fellow man, the way she serves the Lord, for the leader that
  • 00:24:44.250 --> 00:24:49.080
  • she's become, and where she serves him in her openness.
  • 00:24:49.090 --> 00:24:54.240
  • I've said to the Lord many times, "Lord, thank you for
  • 00:24:54.250 --> 00:24:57.160
  • giving me that blood clot.
  • 00:24:57.170 --> 00:25:00.030
  • Thank you for me going through that surgery.
  • 00:25:00.040 --> 00:25:02.270
  • Thank you for writing that in my heart.
  • 00:25:02.280 --> 00:25:05.040
  • Thank you for putting me in that bed for two weeks, where I
  • 00:25:05.050 --> 00:25:07.200
  • couldn't move, and thank you for letting me write "The Absolute
  • 00:25:07.210 --> 00:25:11.170
  • Certainty of Life After Death," because I believe I did it for
  • 00:25:11.180 --> 00:25:15.130
  • one reason: my daughter, Shelly.
  • 00:25:15.140 --> 00:25:19.060
  • And if that is the only reason, Christy, it was worth everything
  • 00:25:19.070 --> 00:25:25.000
  • I thought I ever did.
  • 00:25:25.010 --> 00:25:26.160
  • Christy: Absolutely, and it's helping so many people every
  • 00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:28.260
  • day.
  • 00:25:28.270 --> 00:25:30.030
  • Real quickly, we only have a few more seconds, but how can they
  • 00:25:30.040 --> 00:25:32.060
  • get a copy of the book if they wanna read it as well?
  • 00:25:32.070 --> 00:25:34.080
  • Dr. Wilton: Well, they can go to The Encouraging Word.
  • 00:25:34.090 --> 00:25:36.230
  • Go to the web page.
  • 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:38.140
  • There's a number that'll come on the screen.
  • 00:25:38.150 --> 00:25:40.120
  • Information will be provided.
  • 00:25:40.130 --> 00:25:43.070
  • We're there for everyone, and we want to connect, and we want to
  • 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:47.260
  • make it possible and get alongside folks, and so we'll do
  • 00:25:47.270 --> 00:25:51.170
  • anything we can to make, not only ourselves and the Word of
  • 00:25:51.180 --> 00:25:54.150
  • God, but even a book like "The Absolute Certainty of Life After
  • 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:57.220
  • Death," available to anyone who asks for it.
  • 00:25:57.230 --> 00:26:01.020
  • Christy: Thank you so much for your insight on this book.
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  • It's truly a good book.
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  • Thank you, Dr. Wilton.
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  • Dr. Wilton: Thank you, Christy.
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  • male: Indeed, it is a powerful book,
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  • but Dr. Don will be quick to say, "It's not the book.
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  • It's the choice.
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  • It's the message."
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  • You know that there is an absolute certainty of life after
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  • death, but are you gonna spend it with Jesus or away from him?
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  • You can make that choice right now by giving your heart
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  • to Jesus.
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  • As a matter of fact, you can repeat a simple prayer right
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  • after me: "Lord God, I realize that I'm not there.
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  • I'm not where I need to be.
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  • God, my sin has separated me from you, so today I confess
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  • that you are my Lord.
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  • You died on the cross at Calvary for my sins, and so, Jesus, come
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  • into my life and change me from the inside out, in your precious
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  • name, I pray, amen."
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  • You know, if you're just getting honest with God, about the
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  • things that need to change, let us get alongside you and watch
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  • God work.
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  • The phone number will connect you with one of us happy to
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  • talk, to listen, to pray, to connect you with resources from
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  • Dr. Don that'll help you grow in your next step of living for
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  • Jesus.
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  • We are here to encourage you.
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  • That's what we're all about here at "The Encouraging Word," so
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  • pick up the phone, give us a call, or meet us online
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  • at theencouragingword.org.
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