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Crushing: God Turns Pressure into Power

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September 1, 2020
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Bishop T. D. Jakes shares from his book "Crushing: God's Turns Pressure Into Power"; reminding and encouraging the viewers that God uses the pressures; trials; and tribulations in our lives to make us stronger and develop us into who we are meant to be.

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Crushing: God Turns Pressure into Power

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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - [Tom] Tonight onPraise from Dallas,
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  • senior pastor ofthe Potter's House
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  • and New York Timesbest selling author,
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  • Bishop T.D. Jakes.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • And now Matt and Laurie Crouch.
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  • - We are in Dallas, Texas.
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  • The bishop is in the house
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  • and we are talking about wine.
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  • For some reason,I'm not sure why.
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  • Bishop showed up wanting
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  • to talk about wine.
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  • (laughing)
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  • But that's what's happening.
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  • (laughing)
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  • So, we're talking about asubject, get us started.
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  • What are we gonnaunpack for an hour?
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  • - We're gonna talkabout something that,
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  • has been uncomfortable forthe church to talk about.
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  • We talk about victoryon the seed of Abraham,
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  • success, abundance,life, prosperity,
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  • victory over thisand then the other.
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  • We don't talk about crushing.
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  • And the book iscalled "Crushing"
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  • because the emblem of ourfaith is an execution chamber.
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  • The Cross was anexecution chamber.
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  • It was years before itbecame a place of adoration.
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  • It was a place of reprehensiblejudgment on felons
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  • and criminals and our Christdied in the most hideous way.
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  • On a cross, naked in frontof all of his disciples,
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  • crushed as far as hisimage was concerned.
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  • And his affluence andinfluence shattered
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  • as he bled to deathreeling on the cross,
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  • and yet we say nothingabout suffering.
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  • So when people suffer as saints,
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  • they do it in silencebecause we feel obligated
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  • to tell each other that we'renot going through anything
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  • and I wrote the book, "Crushing"
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  • because I believe crushingis just a step to conquering
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  • and once you have gonethrough your crushings,
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  • you become a conqueror,wise and strong
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  • because of whatyou went through.
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  • - I don't knowthat it says this.
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  • And I read a lot of this book.
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  • I don't know thatthis says this exactly
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  • but I feel likethe the big subject
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  • that we're talking about is,
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  • why do bad thingshappen to good people?
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  • - [Jake] Right.
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  • - I mean, and so whatyou're really undoing
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  • and what we're really unpackingis this unique dichotomy--
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  • - [TD. Jakes] Yes, yes.
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  • - of victim or victory.
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  • - Let me say this to you,
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  • something you don'tknow about me trivial.
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  • I was born June 9, 1957.
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  • I am my mother'syoungest living child.
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  • She had a childafter me that died
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  • and a child before me that died.
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  • I was born betweentwo dead children.
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  • I was the only one thatlived out of those three.
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  • I have two older siblings.
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  • And I grew up in ahouse with a father
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  • who had kidney failure.
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  • Who got sick when I was10 and died when I was 16.
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  • Those atrocious, sad,challenging circumstances,
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  • have so much to do withwho I am as a person.
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  • She wouldn't have raisedme the way she raise me
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  • if she wasn't grievingas she raised me.
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  • If she wasn't clingingto me as she raised me.
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  • I wouldn't be a caretaker,
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  • if I hadn't grown up in ahouse with a kidney machine.
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  • I could run a kidney machineand couldn't ride a bike.
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  • So this whole notionof taking care
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  • of hurting people is in my DNA.
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  • Yeah, it goes all theway back to my childhood,
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  • climbing up on a hospitalbed to shave my father
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  • when he was sick,
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  • or clean him up ordress him or whatever.
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  • And so as I sit here today
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  • with a ministryto hurting people,
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  • it's only fitting that,
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  • I would write a bookcalled, "Crushing."
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  • Because I have been crushed.
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  • Life is crushing,
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  • periodically is necessary.
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  • Christ was crushed.
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  • Grapes are crushed inorder to become wine
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  • and the goal is the wine.
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  • The goal is what do you haveleft not, what did you lose?
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  • And learning how to lookto what is before you.
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  • The Bible said he despisethe shame of the cross
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  • but for the joy thatwas set before him,
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  • he endured the crushing
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  • because he knew the crushingwas going somewhere.
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  • And I wrote that book topeople who have been crushed,
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  • who are being crushed,not just physically,
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  • not just death,not just COVID-19.
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  • Though that is a horriblething we should talk about.
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  • But crushed in their heart.
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  • And so many Americans aresuffering from broken hearts,
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  • from family issues,from parental issues,
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  • from domestic issues,from family issues,
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  • and we have to painta happy face on
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  • 'cause we're Christians.
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  • And this is the way welook, we're Christians.
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  • With our crossesaround our neck,
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  • never knowing that ourcrosses are in our lives.
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  • Jesus made the toughest altarcall that's ever been made.
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  • We make altar calls today, "Godwill turn your life around.
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  • I don't care how low youare, he'll pick you up.
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  • He'll get you together again.
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  • If you come to Jesus rightnow he'll heal your marriage,
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  • he'll bring you through."
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  • That's not the altarcall Jesus made
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  • Jesus made this altar call,
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  • "Pick up your crossand follow me."
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  • What?
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  • Who wants to pick up aninstrument of death and cruelty
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  • and follow you to a cross?
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  • And there are thousands ofpeople who followed him.
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  • What did Jesus knowabout crushing?
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  • That made thousandsof people almost faint
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  • in the desert without food,
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  • to hear him delivera message about,
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  • "Take up your crossand follow me."
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  • This to me is the epitomeof the Christian marriage
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  • that he takes two fishand five loaves of bread.
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  • And we know we havean accountant's record
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  • of what it is untilhe crushes it.
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  • The more he crushes it,the more it multiplies
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  • and all of a sudden, whatwas accountable as two fish
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  • and five loaves of bread,
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  • and we have absolute metrics
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  • on what it was in the bag.
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  • The more he crushed it,
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  • it fed thousands andthousands of people
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  • and had 12 basketsfull baskets left.
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  • That's what crushingdoes in our lives.
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  • It multiplies us,it increases us.
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  • It builds us up.
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  • And it makes us morethan we would be,
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  • had we had sat inthe lap of luxury
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  • and had everything go well.
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  • - Okay, let me see ifI understand so far.
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  • So bad is good?
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  • - Yeah, it was good for methat I have been afflicted,
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  • the more they're afflictedthen the more they grew.
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  • You're your only strong
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  • because of the weightthat's been put on you.
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  • - [Matt] Right.
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  • - You wouldn't be theman that you are today
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  • if you hadn'tsuffered and endured
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  • and agonized andput up with stuff
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  • and rushed and wenthome and beat the wall
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  • and cried in a pillow.
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  • To stand up to be who you are.
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  • People see you onstage and they think,
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  • "Oh you're Matt Crouch,you're Paul's son,
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  • you've always had a good."
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  • Nobody has a good,
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  • I don't care where youlive or what you drive.
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  • Nobody makes it throughthis life without pain.
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  • The call to take upthe cross doesn't stop
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  • with the zip code.
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  • - [Matt] Right.
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  • - It's a universal call
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  • from a God who wasable to stop the cross
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  • but allowed it to continue
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  • because redemptioncame through it.
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  • This is such a powerful book,
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  • Bishop Jake shows us how,
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  • God uses the most difficultchapters of our lives
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  • to prepare us for hisgreatest blessings.
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  • - That's what crushingdoes in our lives.
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  • It multiplies us,it increases us,
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  • it builds us up.
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  • - I can either build mylife on the thought that,
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  • this is gonna lastforever or that's misery.
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  • to everyone we can.
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  • - "Crushing: God TurnsPressure into Power."
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  • All right, we're talkingabout a unique thing.
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  • I'm seeing an image that,
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  • God simply wearsa mask some times
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  • so that you don't know it's him.
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  • And he's still askingyou the question,
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  • Who do you say that I am?
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  • - Absolutely, absolutely.
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  • - Okay, is that whatwe're talking about here?
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  • - Absolutely, absolutely.
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  • - We've said in thechurch so often that,
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  • we see people goingthrough stuff it's like,
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  • "Oh, they must be notdoing something right."
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  • - [Jakes] Right.
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  • - It must be, something'swrong in their life.
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  • They just can't, but.
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  • - Yeah, that's not true at all.
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  • I mean, Job was picked outbecause he was a righteous man.
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  • Christ there was noguilt found in his mouth,
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  • he went through the judicialsystem and was crucified.
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  • You have to realize,Paul craves,
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  • "Oh, that I may know him
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  • in the fellowshipof his suffering."
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  • What a strange request to make?
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  • I've never met anybodythat I thought,
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  • Oh, I wanna suffer like you.
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  • Paul says his prayers,
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  • "Oh, that I may knowhim in the fellowship
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  • of his suffering and thepower of his resurrection."
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  • You can't have a resurrectionwithout a crucifixion.
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  • There must havebeen some knowledge.
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  • This guy speaks fivedifferent languages.
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  • He's traveled allover the world.
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  • He's trained at thefeet of Gamaliel.
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  • He's very experienced.
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  • He is a spiritualfather in Zion.
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  • He's responsible formost of the epistles
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  • in the New Testament.
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  • And the one thing he asked for,
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  • is to know him in thefellowship of his suffering,
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  • and the power ofhis resurrection.
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  • Really, they soundlike contradictions,
  • 00:11:49.365 --> 00:11:51.433
  • but the suffering and thepower of his resurrection
  • 00:11:51.433 --> 00:11:53.803
  • are the same thing.
  • 00:11:53.803 --> 00:11:55.104
  • Because you can't know him
  • 00:11:55.104 --> 00:11:56.338
  • and the power ofhis resurrection.
  • 00:11:56.338 --> 00:11:58.174
  • If you haven't had crucifixion.
  • 00:11:58.174 --> 00:11:59.775
  • There's something thatcomes out of surviving,
  • 00:12:00.943 --> 00:12:05.881
  • that gives ustenacity and fight.
  • 00:12:05.881 --> 00:12:09.852
  • And I think that we needespecially in this hour that,
  • 00:12:09.852 --> 00:12:14.089
  • God has allowed thistsunami of disease
  • 00:12:14.089 --> 00:12:19.028
  • to attack the world.
  • 00:12:19.028 --> 00:12:21.330
  • And made everybody,rich and poor
  • 00:12:21.330 --> 00:12:23.899
  • from every tongue and country.
  • 00:12:23.899 --> 00:12:26.235
  • Go to their room and time out.
  • 00:12:26.235 --> 00:12:29.138
  • Proven that none of ourtechnology supersedes
  • 00:12:29.138 --> 00:12:33.475
  • his ability to control.
  • 00:12:33.475 --> 00:12:35.044
  • And I'm not sayinghe sent COVID-19
  • 00:12:35.044 --> 00:12:37.446
  • but I'm saying nothing escapeshim, he had to allow it.
  • 00:12:37.446 --> 00:12:40.749
  • And with one sweep of his hand,
  • 00:12:42.551 --> 00:12:44.753
  • every country is sittingup in their room,
  • 00:12:44.753 --> 00:12:47.256
  • dealing with the same thing,
  • 00:12:47.256 --> 00:12:48.757
  • covering up their heads,
  • 00:12:48.757 --> 00:12:50.159
  • shut down offices,all streets empty.
  • 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.463
  • We got to see 18 wheelersfilled with dead bodies
  • 00:12:54.463 --> 00:12:59.435
  • so many that the morguecould not handle them.
  • 00:12:59.435 --> 00:13:02.137
  • And yet we are still here.
  • 00:13:03.172 --> 00:13:05.975
  • And it begs the question,
  • 00:13:05.975 --> 00:13:07.676
  • why are we still here?
  • 00:13:09.345 --> 00:13:12.081
  • What does God have forus that he allowed us
  • 00:13:13.282 --> 00:13:17.786
  • to survive thecrushing to this point?
  • 00:13:17.786 --> 00:13:20.122
  • What am I supposedto learn from this?
  • 00:13:22.424 --> 00:13:24.827
  • Not run from it,not lie about it,
  • 00:13:24.827 --> 00:13:27.263
  • not succumb topropaganda about it.
  • 00:13:28.364 --> 00:13:31.934
  • God so loved the world.
  • 00:13:31.934 --> 00:13:34.570
  • He gave his life for people.
  • 00:13:34.570 --> 00:13:37.573
  • And to everyone who'ssuffering from anything.
  • 00:13:37.573 --> 00:13:41.343
  • I was telling thembefore we got on camera.
  • 00:13:41.343 --> 00:13:43.946
  • There's not been a day
  • 00:13:44.813 --> 00:13:46.081
  • for the last fouror five weeks that
  • 00:13:46.081 --> 00:13:49.084
  • I haven't had a member to die.
  • 00:13:49.084 --> 00:13:50.719
  • And their familiescalling saying,
  • 00:13:52.087 --> 00:13:54.623
  • "I didn't get to holdmy mother's hand.
  • 00:13:54.623 --> 00:13:56.392
  • I never got to say goodbye.
  • 00:13:56.392 --> 00:13:57.626
  • They wouldn't letme in the hospital."
  • 00:13:57.626 --> 00:13:59.595
  • Screaming andcrying on the phone,
  • 00:13:59.595 --> 00:14:01.997
  • feeling guilt and shame.
  • 00:14:01.997 --> 00:14:03.899
  • Maybe you're one of those people
  • 00:14:03.899 --> 00:14:06.936
  • or related to oneof those people,
  • 00:14:06.936 --> 00:14:08.871
  • near one of those people.
  • 00:14:08.871 --> 00:14:10.272
  • Or maybe you're onewhose people died
  • 00:14:10.272 --> 00:14:12.174
  • because you couldn'tget them to hospital
  • 00:14:12.174 --> 00:14:13.809
  • because the hospitalswere filled up with them.
  • 00:14:13.809 --> 00:14:16.178
  • And you lost a loved oneto some other disease.
  • 00:14:16.178 --> 00:14:18.414
  • Or maybe you're goingthrough a divorce.
  • 00:14:18.414 --> 00:14:20.582
  • Or maybe you've got a childthat you poured your heart into
  • 00:14:21.984 --> 00:14:24.687
  • and they turned aroundand broke your heart.
  • 00:14:24.687 --> 00:14:27.189
  • There's a lot ofways to be crushed.
  • 00:14:27.189 --> 00:14:29.391
  • Maybe you were the peoplewho built the business
  • 00:14:29.391 --> 00:14:31.627
  • and got it going andit all fell apart.
  • 00:14:31.627 --> 00:14:34.163
  • Or you were working ona job and doing good,
  • 00:14:34.163 --> 00:14:36.298
  • and now you're backto square one again.
  • 00:14:36.298 --> 00:14:39.201
  • And you're trying to figureout where you're gonna stay.
  • 00:14:39.201 --> 00:14:41.737
  • You don't have to bepoor to be crushed.
  • 00:14:42.938 --> 00:14:45.174
  • You don't have to beRepublican or Democrat,
  • 00:14:45.174 --> 00:14:47.476
  • or Baptists or black orwhite or Pentecostal.
  • 00:14:47.476 --> 00:14:50.846
  • Crushing comes toeveryone's life.
  • 00:14:52.181 --> 00:14:54.750
  • But it never stays.
  • 00:14:56.552 --> 00:14:58.354
  • And I think that when we start
  • 00:14:59.955 --> 00:15:01.490
  • to talk about this crushing,
  • 00:15:01.490 --> 00:15:03.225
  • there is a dignityeven in suffering.
  • 00:15:04.426 --> 00:15:08.364
  • And if you'resuffering right now
  • 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:12.368
  • and you're on somesort of cross,
  • 00:15:12.368 --> 00:15:14.770
  • it's because when this is over,
  • 00:15:14.770 --> 00:15:18.874
  • you'll be changed in some way.
  • 00:15:20.376 --> 00:15:22.277
  • No longer grapes,no longer temporary.
  • 00:15:22.277 --> 00:15:25.914
  • Grapes are one ofthe few fruits that,
  • 00:15:27.082 --> 00:15:29.585
  • are raised to be crushed.
  • 00:15:29.585 --> 00:15:31.353
  • And Christ was raisedto be crucified.
  • 00:15:32.821 --> 00:15:35.391
  • But he told the boys,
  • 00:15:36.558 --> 00:15:37.993
  • "Don't give up on me,three days I will be back."
  • 00:15:37.993 --> 00:15:39.895
  • And that, "I will be back."
  • 00:15:40.929 --> 00:15:44.533
  • Is why I wrote "Crushing."
  • 00:15:44.533 --> 00:15:46.135
  • Not to tell you howto squirm on the cross
  • 00:15:46.135 --> 00:15:49.438
  • but to show you howto roll the stone away
  • 00:15:50.973 --> 00:15:52.875
  • and get back up again.
  • 00:15:52.875 --> 00:15:54.843
  • - Whether we have the abilityto talk about it or not,
  • 00:15:54.843 --> 00:15:59.848
  • we've all been crushed.
  • 00:16:01.050 --> 00:16:02.951
  • And you sit here...
  • 00:16:02.951 --> 00:16:05.287
  • Help us understandthat unique dichotomy
  • 00:16:08.390 --> 00:16:13.095
  • of what God's doingwith this crushing.
  • 00:16:15.097 --> 00:16:17.666
  • It's a real tough thing toexplain and I wanna hear you.
  • 00:16:19.101 --> 00:16:23.639
  • - First of all, I learn,
  • 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:25.541
  • never try to make senseof it while you're in it.
  • 00:16:25.541 --> 00:16:27.976
  • You have to focuson surviving it,
  • 00:16:29.578 --> 00:16:31.980
  • not understanding it.
  • 00:16:31.980 --> 00:16:33.415
  • Because the crushingis so intense
  • 00:16:34.516 --> 00:16:36.718
  • and so personal and so deep,that you only understand
  • 00:16:36.718 --> 00:16:41.023
  • in retrospect whenyou look back at it.
  • 00:16:41.023 --> 00:16:43.659
  • You say," It was goodfor me, it's over now.
  • 00:16:43.659 --> 00:16:46.862
  • It was good."
  • 00:16:46.862 --> 00:16:47.796
  • But now while you are in it...
  • 00:16:47.796 --> 00:16:49.398
  • But after you through with it,
  • 00:16:49.398 --> 00:16:50.632
  • "It was good for me thatI've been afflicted."
  • 00:16:50.632 --> 00:16:52.968
  • The idea of crushing thegrape in its original state,
  • 00:16:54.436 --> 00:16:58.907
  • it would only last one season.
  • 00:16:58.907 --> 00:17:01.543
  • It would rot on the vine.
  • 00:17:01.543 --> 00:17:03.045
  • But if you crush itand let it ferment,
  • 00:17:04.246 --> 00:17:05.948
  • it would last forhundreds of years.
  • 00:17:05.948 --> 00:17:07.983
  • And there's somethingthat happens
  • 00:17:09.351 --> 00:17:10.953
  • to us when we are crushed.
  • 00:17:10.953 --> 00:17:13.989
  • That gives us resilience andtenacity that we wouldn't have.
  • 00:17:13.989 --> 00:17:17.960
  • I was writing on that legal pad.
  • 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:20.696
  • And the Lord showed me a vision
  • 00:17:20.696 --> 00:17:22.865
  • of people stomping on grapes.
  • 00:17:22.865 --> 00:17:25.868
  • And then took meto the text that,
  • 00:17:27.035 --> 00:17:29.605
  • "The Seed of the woman wouldbruise the head of the serpent
  • 00:17:29.605 --> 00:17:33.408
  • and the serpent wouldbruise his heel."
  • 00:17:33.408 --> 00:17:35.677
  • And when I sawChrist's bruised heel,
  • 00:17:36.745 --> 00:17:39.381
  • they looked like theheels of somebody
  • 00:17:39.381 --> 00:17:41.450
  • who had been stomping on grapes.
  • 00:17:41.450 --> 00:17:43.418
  • And I started to realizethat on the cross,
  • 00:17:44.753 --> 00:17:49.024
  • he stomped on everythingthat was against me.
  • 00:17:49.024 --> 00:17:51.727
  • He moved every obstaclethat was contrary to me.
  • 00:17:53.095 --> 00:17:57.499
  • And that even though Igo through things now,
  • 00:17:57.499 --> 00:18:01.036
  • that he has borne the griefand carried the sorrows of it.
  • 00:18:01.036 --> 00:18:04.506
  • He went before me tolighten the load of it,
  • 00:18:05.641 --> 00:18:08.544
  • and still sufferedme to go through it.
  • 00:18:08.544 --> 00:18:10.312
  • And I'll tell you why.
  • 00:18:10.312 --> 00:18:12.147
  • He's better at raisingkids than we are.
  • 00:18:12.147 --> 00:18:14.449
  • We raise kids to give themeverything we didn't get.
  • 00:18:14.449 --> 00:18:17.953
  • If your mother wouldn'ttouchy you freely,
  • 00:18:17.953 --> 00:18:19.688
  • you hug your kids all the time.
  • 00:18:19.688 --> 00:18:21.957
  • "I want you to have this
  • 00:18:21.957 --> 00:18:23.158
  • 'cause I know whatit is not having it."
  • 00:18:23.158 --> 00:18:25.127
  • You give them all of that,and then you they grow up
  • 00:18:25.127 --> 00:18:28.263
  • and you find out, thatdidn't work like that.
  • 00:18:28.263 --> 00:18:31.133
  • That you were self medicating.
  • 00:18:32.067 --> 00:18:35.237
  • (laughing)
  • 00:18:35.237 --> 00:18:38.040
  • Or if you grew up poor,
  • 00:18:38.040 --> 00:18:39.508
  • you try to get them everynew toy they ever had.
  • 00:18:39.508 --> 00:18:42.444
  • And they don'treally appreciate it
  • 00:18:42.444 --> 00:18:44.646
  • because of the over indulgence,
  • 00:18:44.646 --> 00:18:47.583
  • of the over saturationof attention
  • 00:18:47.583 --> 00:18:49.685
  • or the over way we compensatetrying to make sure that,
  • 00:18:49.685 --> 00:18:52.688
  • they don't have the pain we had.
  • 00:18:52.688 --> 00:18:53.889
  • - It's self therapy,that's funny.
  • 00:18:53.889 --> 00:18:56.291
  • And what we don'trealize is that,
  • 00:18:56.291 --> 00:18:58.560
  • it is exactly the pain wehad that made us who we are.
  • 00:18:58.560 --> 00:19:01.930
  • It is exactly theneglect or the absence.
  • 00:19:01.930 --> 00:19:06.235
  • Or, I am so grateful
  • 00:19:06.235 --> 00:19:08.303
  • for the teacher thatsaid I couldn't write
  • 00:19:08.303 --> 00:19:10.372
  • because that's why I could.
  • 00:19:11.673 --> 00:19:13.375
  • It is the thing that opposes you
  • 00:19:15.043 --> 00:19:17.112
  • in the weight room thatcauses you to build muscles.
  • 00:19:17.112 --> 00:19:20.616
  • The resistance training.
  • 00:19:20.616 --> 00:19:22.217
  • I don't need theweights to cooperate.
  • 00:19:23.352 --> 00:19:25.287
  • I need them to resist me.
  • 00:19:25.287 --> 00:19:27.289
  • So when life resists you,
  • 00:19:27.289 --> 00:19:28.690
  • you get stronger.
  • 00:19:28.690 --> 00:19:30.392
  • And you get wiser.
  • 00:19:30.392 --> 00:19:31.860
  • And you turn intosomething that can be kept.
  • 00:19:31.860 --> 00:19:35.764
  • And that will last.
  • 00:19:35.764 --> 00:19:37.566
  • And I think it's so important.
  • 00:19:37.566 --> 00:19:39.434
  • When you talk aboutthe suffering church
  • 00:19:41.703 --> 00:19:43.171
  • in the Book ofRevelations at Smyrna.
  • 00:19:43.171 --> 00:19:45.340
  • And he talks aboutfrankincense and myrrh.
  • 00:19:45.340 --> 00:19:48.343
  • And the incense wasroots that were crushed
  • 00:19:48.343 --> 00:19:51.546
  • and the aroma only escaped asthe roots were being crushed.
  • 00:19:51.546 --> 00:19:56.485
  • And there is an aroma,
  • 00:19:56.485 --> 00:19:57.986
  • that escapes your heartwhen you're being crushed.
  • 00:19:57.986 --> 00:20:00.389
  • (soft piano music)
  • 00:20:00.389 --> 00:20:03.292
  • - [Tom] There's noquestion that we're living
  • 00:20:04.626 --> 00:20:06.128
  • in challenging anduncertain times.
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  • Because of that, Matt and Laurie
  • 00:20:08.030 --> 00:20:09.698
  • are more determined than ever
  • 00:20:09.698 --> 00:20:11.199
  • to bring more relevantmessages into your home.
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  • So please take amoment right now
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  • to call the numberon your screen.
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  • for your gift toTBN of any amount,
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  • Bishop Jake shows us,
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  • how God uses the mostdifficult chapters of our lives
  • 00:20:28.016 --> 00:20:30.919
  • to prepare us for hisgreatest blessings.
  • 00:20:30.919 --> 00:20:33.555
  • - That's what crushingdoes in our lives.
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  • It multiplies us,it increases us.
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  • - We've got toknow the promises,
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  • trust the promises, andthen allow those promises
  • 00:20:50.706 --> 00:20:53.742
  • to become a part ofour day to day life.
  • 00:20:53.742 --> 00:20:55.777
  • - [Tom] And friend, asalways, we sincerely thank you
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  • for your generosity to TBN.
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  • Together, let's continueto take the love
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  • of Jesus around the world.
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  • - Crushing, happens to everyone.
  • 00:21:06.021 --> 00:21:09.825
  • Is that true?
  • 00:21:09.825 --> 00:21:10.759
  • Is that a true statement?
  • 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:11.560
  • - Absolutely.
  • 00:21:11.560 --> 00:21:12.794
  • - Okay, let's take asubject like divorce.
  • 00:21:12.794 --> 00:21:16.498
  • - [Jakes] Yes.
  • 00:21:16.498 --> 00:21:17.332
  • - That is a crushing.
  • 00:21:17.332 --> 00:21:18.900
  • - [Jakes] Yes.
  • 00:21:18.900 --> 00:21:20.202
  • - Some people can moveon, find somebody new
  • 00:21:20.202 --> 00:21:25.173
  • and live happilywith this new person.
  • 00:21:27.542 --> 00:21:30.846
  • Another person can be bitter,angry, ugly and die alone.
  • 00:21:30.846 --> 00:21:35.250
  • - [Jakes] Right?
  • 00:21:35.250 --> 00:21:36.184
  • - What did the one do right?
  • 00:21:36.184 --> 00:21:37.819
  • And how can you be crushedand end not turning into wine?
  • 00:21:37.819 --> 00:21:42.824
  • - Oh, that's a good question.
  • 00:21:43.692 --> 00:21:44.626
  • That's such a good question.
  • 00:21:44.626 --> 00:21:45.827
  • I hope that answerwill match it.
  • 00:21:45.827 --> 00:21:47.396
  • What we must realize when wego through divorce is that,
  • 00:21:48.864 --> 00:21:51.433
  • we are not grievingover the person.
  • 00:21:51.433 --> 00:21:53.335
  • We're grieving overwhat we had in mind.
  • 00:21:53.335 --> 00:21:55.670
  • (laughing)
  • 00:21:56.538 --> 00:21:58.807
  • Yeah, out of 8 billionpeople in the world,
  • 00:22:01.643 --> 00:22:03.345
  • there's nobodythat can leave you,
  • 00:22:03.345 --> 00:22:05.380
  • that will leaveyou so strung up,
  • 00:22:05.380 --> 00:22:06.948
  • that you'd spenteight years in pain.
  • 00:22:06.948 --> 00:22:08.950
  • It's not the personyou can't get over.
  • 00:22:08.950 --> 00:22:11.086
  • It's what you had in mindthat you can't get over.
  • 00:22:11.086 --> 00:22:13.155
  • - Oh, come on withit, my goodness.
  • 00:22:13.155 --> 00:22:15.457
  • - And if we can let goof what we had in mind,
  • 00:22:15.457 --> 00:22:18.193
  • we can discover whatGod had in mind for us.
  • 00:22:18.193 --> 00:22:21.830
  • And the differencebetween the person
  • 00:22:21.830 --> 00:22:22.664
  • who can't move forward
  • 00:22:22.664 --> 00:22:24.499
  • and the person that can is,
  • 00:22:24.499 --> 00:22:26.201
  • how quickly weadapt to letting go
  • 00:22:26.201 --> 00:22:29.137
  • of what we had in mind.
  • 00:22:30.138 --> 00:22:31.840
  • - My goodness.
  • 00:22:31.840 --> 00:22:34.342
  • - Well, they say thatthe number one cause
  • 00:22:34.342 --> 00:22:37.078
  • of divorce is,
  • 00:22:37.078 --> 00:22:39.147
  • unmet expectation.- Unmet expectation.
  • 00:22:39.147 --> 00:22:42.350
  • - [Jakes] Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:22:42.350 --> 00:22:43.318
  • - As a man thinks, so is he.
  • 00:22:43.318 --> 00:22:44.986
  • As a man thinks inhis heart so is he.
  • 00:22:44.986 --> 00:22:46.688
  • - "I thought itwould be this way."
  • 00:22:46.688 --> 00:22:48.523
  • - What's funny about that is?
  • 00:22:48.523 --> 00:22:50.759
  • We have expectations of peoplethat they never agreed to.
  • 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:55.130
  • A lot of times we growup planning a wedding
  • 00:22:58.366 --> 00:23:01.303
  • without a groom.
  • 00:23:01.303 --> 00:23:02.471
  • And we're justlooking for somebody
  • 00:23:03.572 --> 00:23:05.140
  • to play a role in a scriptthat we already wrote.
  • 00:23:05.140 --> 00:23:08.276
  • - My goodness.
  • 00:23:08.276 --> 00:23:09.478
  • - And a lot of timeswe say the same things,
  • 00:23:09.478 --> 00:23:11.680
  • but we mean differentthings by them.
  • 00:23:11.680 --> 00:23:13.682
  • I love you.
  • 00:23:13.682 --> 00:23:14.683
  • You say, "I love you back."
  • 00:23:14.683 --> 00:23:16.151
  • That doesn't mean we meantthe same thing by, I love you.
  • 00:23:16.151 --> 00:23:19.120
  • And so when you starttalking about disappointment,
  • 00:23:19.120 --> 00:23:22.491
  • disappointment begins
  • 00:23:22.491 --> 00:23:23.925
  • with the expectationthat wasn't communicated.
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  • And you brought me into play a role that,
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  • I never got to read the script.
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  • And if I didn't signoff on the script,
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  • you have to forgive me ifI don't play the role well.
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  • My wife lost her motherand we were on camera.
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  • And she said,
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  • "The worst part ofgrieving is that I have
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  • to do it with acamera in my face."
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  • It costs all of us something.
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  • Not just the successful,or the downtrodden person.
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  • The single mother,who's got three kids
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  • and left alone in atwo bedroom apartment
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  • and you're working twojobs, making minimum wage.
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  • The person who goes andtreats person after person
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  • and walks up downaisles in the hospital,
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  • medicating not just nice,
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  • but the maimed people,and the rude people,
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  • and obnoxious people.
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  • And that you're puttingyour life in danger
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  • for somebody whodoesn't even seem
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  • to appreciate you.
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  • And when I write to crushing,
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  • I write to every personwho ever gave up some
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  • of themselves for somebody else.
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  • Only God knows howmuch you were crushed,
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  • to make the wineyou have become.
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  • My prayer for you is that,
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  • you will get arevelation of God.
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  • In the breaking of your life.
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  • In the cracking of places that,
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  • you thought wouldalways be there for you.
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  • That you would seesomething about God
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  • that you never saw before.
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  • And that you wouldrecognize that,
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  • you are not at the table alone,
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  • but he sits with you.
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  • And he manages the crushingmoments in your life.
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  • He knows when you've had enough
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  • and he knows how tostop the bleeding.
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  • So right where you are,
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  • if you just trust him
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  • and give him the praise.
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  • I've got a feeling thateverything is gonna be alright.
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  • - Propheticallydownloaded to T.D. Jakes
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  • for this season, this time.
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  • This beautiful book,
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  • "Crushing: God TurnsPressure into Power,"
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  • it is in season, it's on time
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  • and it's availablefor you right now.
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  • Thank you pastor forbreaking this down.
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  • - Wow.
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  • - My God.
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  • - [Matt] Beautiful.
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  • (soft piano music)
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