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  • - Faith, wisdom,knowledge, prophecy.
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  • The Holy Spiritgives us what we need
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  • to fill our missionas Christ's followers.
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  • Today we're talkingabout receiving
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  • and sharing those spiritualgifts with others.
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  • (soothing music)
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  • - I grew up in a verycharismatic church
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  • so moving in the spirit,gifts of the spirit,
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  • all of that was very normal.
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  • I mean, my parents wouldhave prayer meetings
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  • at their houseevery Friday night
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  • after dinner parties, youknow (laughs), and you would--
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  • - That's awesome.
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  • - Hear them prophesying overeach other and you know.
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  • So for me it was neveran unfamiliar thing.
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  • But I think when thegifts of the spirit
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  • being used by people in my life
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  • at youth group especiallywas the prophetic.
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  • And I remember thatfirst prophetic word
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  • that ever spoken over my lifeand I was probably 12, 13,
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  • and they were prophesyingexactly what I'm doing now.
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  • Now I didn't knowat that young age
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  • that I would be a ministerand I would teach and preach
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  • and minister as a womanespecially back in the '80s.
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  • And I think that thepower of the gift
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  • and I know we'vespoken about it before
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  • but the power of the giftwhen it's used on you,
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  • you're seen by God,it does something
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  • that you say wellonly God knew that
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  • or there's been a word of.
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  • I mean I think I'vehad every gift.
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  • I've had the gift of healing
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  • and I've had healing for myself.
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  • I've seen God heal me ofbarrenness and infertility.
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  • I've had the prophetic.
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  • I've had the word of wisdom.
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  • I've had the word of knowledge.
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  • I've had a mercygift given to me.
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  • There's discernment used.
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  • So all of thesegifts, what are they?
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  • They're for the commongood the Bible says,
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  • that spiritual gifts are forthe common good for the body.
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  • And so I know for me it'swhy I'm still a Christian.
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  • Even when I wentthrough my crisis
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  • of not even faith I would say.
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  • It was more crisis withthe church (laughs)
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  • because I think Ialways loved Jesus.
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  • I could never not love Jesus.
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  • (group laughing)
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  • - Just people.
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  • - It was just maybejust the establishment
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  • which now I'm running onebut God has a sense of humor.
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  • But it was then where I remember
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  • I can't negate the powerof the spirit of God
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  • because of the gifts thatpeople were partnering with
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  • to see my life shaped,formed, and fashioned.
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  • And so now I get the privilegeto be able to do that
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  • in somebody's life andyou hear that sometimes.
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  • They'll be like you spokea word over me 10 years ago
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  • or you prayed for me.
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  • I actually was just in a church
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  • in Chicago on Wednesday night
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  • and two years ago I waspraying or it was a year ago
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  • at a women's conference
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  • and I said, "Every womanthat needs a miracle
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  • "for a baby come forward."
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  • Laid hands on this one woman
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  • and then she broughther husband up.
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  • We prayed over their womb.
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  • Well she comes up tome and I get to see
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  • the fruit of her beingfive months pregnant.
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  • And there's stuff like that.
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  • That's what the giftsof the spirit are for.
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  • And so we've allgot spiritual gifts
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  • that we are enable at.
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  • Do you know what your spiritualgifts are, like, you know?
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  • Because I struggledat that as a kid.
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  • I didn't know what myspiritual gift was as a child.
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  • But you realize along the way
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  • that we can have more than one.
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  • - Now we all don'thave the same ones
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  • and we all have ameasure the Bible says
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  • just like the Bible says
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  • we're all part ofthe body of Christ.
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  • Some of us are the hands,some of us the feet.
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  • I'm clearly the mouth.
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  • There's all different places.
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  • But even the samewith our gifts,
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  • they're all different andthey can be activated.
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  • I believe our spiritualgifts can grow
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  • and the more energy andintentionality we give to them
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  • they can flourish in our lives
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  • and we can have multiples ones.
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  • In fact, I believewe can be hungry
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  • for unique spiritual giftsand we can grow in them.
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  • But if you have thegift of administration
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  • and you're notvery administrative
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  • I wouldn't focus on that.
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  • I'd focus on the the things
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  • that you have apropensity towards
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  • and see if God will helpyou grow in that area.
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  • But yes, everybodyhas spiritual gifts
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  • and our one role and job in life
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  • is to learn what they are andsteward them as best we can.
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  • I was taught that the gifts ofthe spirit are for the earth
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  • and the fruit ofthe spirit lives on.
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  • And so what we want todevelop in our lives
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  • is the fruit of the spirit
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  • but the gifts of spiritare used to empower us
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  • to live like abundant life here.
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  • And so I definitely have grown
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  • in using differenttypes in different ways
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  • of like the word ofknowledge or prophetic.
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  • But I remember whenI was a young woman
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  • I was like 15 and I was ata camp as a camp counselor.
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  • And I didn't want to bethere because it was for kids
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  • and I was like there's no way
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  • this is gonna meananything to me
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  • and I'm 15 andvery knowledgeable
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  • because I know everything at 15.
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  • (group laughing)
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  • And the pastor who was preachingsaid, he had me stand up,
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  • and he said, "You're gonnatravel and you're gonna speak,"
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  • and kind of the whatyou said the things.
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  • And I remember because I had
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  • learning disabilitiesgrowing up.
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  • I had readingcomprehension issues.
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  • I still do, I'm dyslexic.
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  • I just was not avery academic person.
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  • I didn't feel very giftedin any specific area.
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  • I just immediately feltfear because it wasn't like
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  • well it's about timesomebody recognized.
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  • It was like oh, I don'thave any ability to do that
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  • and I don't want to be,I don't want to do that.
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  • And I remember sitting down andthe minister kept preaching.
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  • And then he looked at me
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  • and he said, "Don't tellGod what he can't do."
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  • And I remember thinkinglike I love you, Lord.
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  • I'm with you, like I thoughthe could read my mind
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  • which was not true at all.
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  • God was just impressingupon him to say something.
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  • But I'll just remember likeyou had talked about earlier,
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  • Katie, that it's so powerful
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  • and I think it bringsHeaven to earth
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  • when we hear God's words.
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  • And I feel like itopens the room up.
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  • Like all of a sudden I maynot get a word over my life.
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  • I may not even hearanything for somebody else
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  • but being in that atmosphere,all of a sudden it's tangible,
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  • like (gasps) God isreal and he is speaking.
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  • And then when you watchsomebody visibly have like cry
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  • or laugh or whateverit is in their heart
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  • you see like almost like howGod is speaking to other people
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  • and his realitybecomes so tangible.
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  • So being in those environmentsbecomes like really critical
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  • to our own spirituallives and I just love it.
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  • I don't even need itover my life anymore.
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  • I just like to be around it.
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  • - The prophetic is to encourageand exhort and confirm.
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  • It's not necessarily something
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  • to tell your future in detail.
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  • The prophecy the Biblesays is given in part.
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  • So when a prophecy comes to you
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  • it normally willconfirm something
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  • that's already in your heart
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  • which is such anincredible thing.
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  • Because sometimeswhen you're navigating
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  • through your Christianwalk you're wondering
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  • am I on the right track?
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  • Am I going towardsthe destination Godwould have me on?
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  • And it's incredible howthe prophetic will be used
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  • by the voice of Godwill speak to somebody
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  • and that person then willcome and speak to you
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  • direct from the heart of God.
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  • And it blows people awaybecause they feel seen
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  • and they heard and theyfeel understood by God.
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  • - I mean I receive like Ithink probably all of us here
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  • have received words over my life
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  • that without the HolySpirit, impossible.
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  • - Yes, yes.
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  • - Like you knew thatit was going to require
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  • and put a mandate on Heavenfor the Lord to intervene
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  • for this to come to pass.
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  • But also justseeing other people,
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  • seeing other peoplehow God sees them,
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  • seeing them get known, becalled up in those moments,
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  • and seeing them just theway that the Lord sees,
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  • it's just, oh, it's so powerful.
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  • It's one of my favorite things.
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  • And also I think somethingthat even came up for me
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  • in the last couple yearswas because there are times
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  • when the gift isn'tstewarded well
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  • that I almost reacted to that
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  • and I was like I don'twant any of it then.
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  • Then I don't want it.
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  • And there was maybeeven a period of time
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  • where I was like you know what?
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  • We can just stay here.
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  • God can work privately.
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  • He can do all that.
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  • And I realized recentlyagain how much I was missing,
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  • how all these gifts actuallyare the full picture
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  • of who God is and how we can't.
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  • There's no leaving these out.
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  • And as weird or as abusedeven as they can be
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  • at different times,
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  • in its fullness likethis paints a picture
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  • of the goodness of God,the kindness of God.
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  • And when we get to seethese gifts in action
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  • in the purest,most beautiful way
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  • we actually see the heart of God
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  • and I don't want to miss that.
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  • Like that's notworth anything to me.
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  • And so it's kind ofreawakened something in me
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  • all over again for these things.
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  • - But a lot of people havebeen turned off, you know,
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  • because they've seen one person,
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  • one crazy nut person
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  • (Havilah laughing)spoil the whole thing
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  • but the goodness God and theHoly Spirit, you know, that is.
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  • So we need to somehowswipe the slate clean.
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  • - I think sometimes theHoly Spirit is misunderstood
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  • because his power and hispersonhood has been abused
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  • by people that might havetaken things a little too far
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  • and a little too weirdand a little too spooky
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  • and a little too intrusive
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  • and had nothing to dowith the Holy Spirit.
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  • Maybe there was a wordof knowledge given
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  • that was just totally off base
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  • or maybe something wassaid for personal gain
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  • or even to manipulate
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  • and I think that's why sometimes
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  • the Holy Spirit canbe misunderstood.
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  • And the beauty of the HolySpirit is that he is forgiving
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  • and there's no waythat he is that way.
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  • He is a comforter.
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  • He's someone who'sgonna be there for you
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  • in the good times and thebad times no matter what.
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  • He does not manipulate.
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  • He does not control.
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  • He doesn't do thingsfor personal gain.
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  • He really does itout of love for us.
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  • We can't wait for youto join our community.
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  • - That's what caused me todig deeper into the word
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  • about what spiritual gifts are
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  • because it seemed like sucha charismatic concept to me
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  • and I felt like it wasbeing used abusively
  • 00:10:32.210 --> 00:10:34.913
  • in many situationsand a lot of times
  • 00:10:34.913 --> 00:10:36.781
  • for either personal gain tomake someone feel better --
  • 00:10:36.781 --> 00:10:38.883
  • - Manipulation
  • 00:10:38.883 --> 00:10:40.385
  • - Or manipulation and ithurt and it was devastating
  • 00:10:40.385 --> 00:10:43.354
  • and it was weird.
  • 00:10:43.354 --> 00:10:44.723
  • And I'm like this isn't of God.
  • 00:10:44.723 --> 00:10:46.458
  • So what does thescripture say about this?
  • 00:10:46.458 --> 00:10:49.427
  • And Romans 12, 1Corinthians 12, Ephesians 4,
  • 00:10:49.427 --> 00:10:52.564
  • I mean it lists it all out,
  • 00:10:52.564 --> 00:10:54.132
  • like all the differentspiritual gifts that are there.
  • 00:10:54.132 --> 00:10:56.801
  • And for me throughdifferent seasons in life
  • 00:10:56.801 --> 00:10:59.337
  • it has looked different.
  • 00:10:59.337 --> 00:11:00.739
  • So we'll takeencouragement for instance.
  • 00:11:00.739 --> 00:11:03.641
  • When I'm home witha nursing baby
  • 00:11:03.641 --> 00:11:06.444
  • encouragement is shootinga text to a friend
  • 00:11:07.779 --> 00:11:09.481
  • who just pops in my mind.
  • 00:11:09.481 --> 00:11:11.282
  • Encouragement can be in themiddle of the night at 3:00 a.m.
  • 00:11:11.282 --> 00:11:13.885
  • when I'm nursing all by myself.
  • 00:11:13.885 --> 00:11:16.254
  • It's intercession,praying for someone
  • 00:11:16.254 --> 00:11:18.389
  • that the Holy Spiritputs on my mind.
  • 00:11:18.389 --> 00:11:20.191
  • And I may never call them orshoot them a text or something
  • 00:11:20.191 --> 00:11:22.894
  • but it's an intercession.
  • 00:11:22.894 --> 00:11:24.529
  • In different seasonsit looks different.
  • 00:11:24.529 --> 00:11:27.198
  • One of my greatesthonors in life as a mom
  • 00:11:27.198 --> 00:11:31.269
  • is to teach my childrenand help them figure out
  • 00:11:31.269 --> 00:11:35.106
  • what their spiritual gifts are.
  • 00:11:35.106 --> 00:11:37.142
  • And I remember our daughterAbby, our older daughter,
  • 00:11:37.142 --> 00:11:40.678
  • a couple years agoshe was with me
  • 00:11:40.678 --> 00:11:42.380
  • when I was doing some workin our studio at church.
  • 00:11:42.380 --> 00:11:44.549
  • I do some on-camerastuff for our church.
  • 00:11:44.549 --> 00:11:46.985
  • And she was drawing a picturejust off in the corner
  • 00:11:46.985 --> 00:11:49.587
  • while I was working.
  • 00:11:49.587 --> 00:11:51.723
  • And she drew thispicture of a house
  • 00:11:51.723 --> 00:11:53.658
  • and this lady and babiesand the lady was pregnant
  • 00:11:53.658 --> 00:11:56.261
  • and blah blah blah blah
  • 00:11:56.261 --> 00:11:57.562
  • and she hands it toone of the producers
  • 00:11:57.562 --> 00:12:00.565
  • and she starts sobbing.
  • 00:12:00.565 --> 00:12:02.200
  • And my daughter waslike, "What'd I do wrong?
  • 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:04.636
  • "I gave her a pictureand it," you know.
  • 00:12:04.636 --> 00:12:06.404
  • And what was so beautifulwas I was able to tell her,
  • 00:12:06.404 --> 00:12:08.740
  • "Honey, this is what it was."
  • 00:12:08.740 --> 00:12:11.276
  • Well it turned out
  • 00:12:11.276 --> 00:12:12.477
  • that this woman hadbeen praying for a child
  • 00:12:12.477 --> 00:12:15.580
  • and the picture thatmy daughter had drawn
  • 00:12:16.748 --> 00:12:19.751
  • was of her pregnant andof her in this house
  • 00:12:19.751 --> 00:12:23.221
  • and of her all this stuff.
  • 00:12:23.221 --> 00:12:24.789
  • And the Lord had givena picture to this woman
  • 00:12:24.789 --> 00:12:27.892
  • of exactly what their newhouse is gonna look like,
  • 00:12:27.892 --> 00:12:30.695
  • exactly that shewould be pregnant
  • 00:12:30.695 --> 00:12:32.497
  • and she's actually have twochildren, like all these things.
  • 00:12:32.497 --> 00:12:35.033
  • It was like confirmation
  • 00:12:35.033 --> 00:12:36.701
  • of what the Lordhad already told her
  • 00:12:36.701 --> 00:12:38.036
  • that my daughter had drawn.
  • 00:12:38.036 --> 00:12:39.838
  • Another time, same thing, she'ddrawn a picture of a moose
  • 00:12:39.838 --> 00:12:42.307
  • and gave it to oneof our camera guys.
  • 00:12:42.307 --> 00:12:44.242
  • He starts sobbing and she'slike, "What'd I do wrong?"
  • 00:12:44.242 --> 00:12:47.579
  • And he was so greatbecause he was a dad.
  • 00:12:47.579 --> 00:12:49.414
  • He sat down withher and he said,
  • 00:12:49.414 --> 00:12:51.249
  • "When I was little a moosealways represented God
  • 00:12:51.249 --> 00:12:55.119
  • "in my life."
  • 00:12:55.119 --> 00:12:56.221
  • He goes, "I would just."
  • 00:12:56.221 --> 00:12:57.455
  • He grew up in apart of the country
  • 00:12:57.455 --> 00:12:59.023
  • that just had them I guessand so that was something
  • 00:12:59.023 --> 00:13:01.492
  • that was always like anindication to him of--
  • 00:13:01.492 --> 00:13:03.127
  • - So obscure.
  • 00:13:03.127 --> 00:13:04.329
  • - It was like a thing.(ladies laughing)
  • 00:13:04.329 --> 00:13:05.129
  • - Isn't that fun?
  • 00:13:05.129 --> 00:13:06.064
  • - Yeah, it was like a thing.
  • 00:13:06.064 --> 00:13:06.998
  • And so I told my daughter,
  • 00:13:06.998 --> 00:13:08.466
  • I said, "God gives youthese pictures for people
  • 00:13:08.466 --> 00:13:10.201
  • "as a blessing, asa prophetic thing."
  • 00:13:10.201 --> 00:13:12.570
  • For me as a mom, what a giftat such a young age to be able.
  • 00:13:12.570 --> 00:13:16.507
  • So I think as parents wedo need to kind of be open
  • 00:13:16.507 --> 00:13:19.277
  • to seeing even how do wecultivate those spiritual gifts
  • 00:13:19.277 --> 00:13:22.380
  • in our children?
  • 00:13:22.380 --> 00:13:23.615
  • And now our seconddaughter Sophie,
  • 00:13:23.615 --> 00:13:25.083
  • she's kind of getting older
  • 00:13:25.083 --> 00:13:26.784
  • and her thing isthrough sayings.
  • 00:13:26.784 --> 00:13:28.820
  • So she hears just sayings, likeencouraging little phrases.
  • 00:13:28.820 --> 00:13:32.690
  • And she writes themdown on cards and she.
  • 00:13:32.690 --> 00:13:35.894
  • I saw them on herdesk the other day.
  • 00:13:35.894 --> 00:13:37.395
  • She'd never shown anybodyand she was all embarrassed.
  • 00:13:37.395 --> 00:13:39.397
  • And she said, "Oh, I wasgonna give this to so-and-so.
  • 00:13:39.397 --> 00:13:41.466
  • "I was gonna givethis to so-and-so."
  • 00:13:41.466 --> 00:13:42.867
  • And she goes, "But Iknow it's kind of dumb.
  • 00:13:42.867 --> 00:13:44.869
  • "I know these words are dumb."
  • 00:13:44.869 --> 00:13:47.605
  • And I was like, "Who toldyou these words are dumb?"
  • 00:13:47.605 --> 00:13:49.841
  • "Oh, I just feellike they're dumb."
  • 00:13:49.841 --> 00:13:51.376
  • And that was, "No,
  • 00:13:51.376 --> 00:13:52.610
  • "that's the voice ofthe enemy, sweetheart.
  • 00:13:52.610 --> 00:13:54.812
  • "This is the spirit of God.
  • 00:13:54.812 --> 00:13:56.814
  • "This is the Holy Spirit
  • 00:13:56.814 --> 00:13:58.016
  • "giving you these wordsof encouragement."
  • 00:13:58.016 --> 00:14:00.351
  • I love teaching andtraining my kids
  • 00:14:01.486 --> 00:14:03.655
  • when it comes to spiritual gifts
  • 00:14:03.655 --> 00:14:05.690
  • because I think thatif they can grab ahold
  • 00:14:05.690 --> 00:14:08.393
  • of their spiritualgifts at an early age
  • 00:14:08.393 --> 00:14:11.062
  • and understand that thatthey're not something
  • 00:14:11.062 --> 00:14:12.664
  • to be scared ofor intimidated by
  • 00:14:12.664 --> 00:14:15.199
  • it's easier for themto be able to do that
  • 00:14:15.199 --> 00:14:18.069
  • even at a young age
  • 00:14:18.069 --> 00:14:19.537
  • and then carry it on throughthe rest of their lives.
  • 00:14:19.537 --> 00:14:21.372
  • And so something practicalthat we do with our kids
  • 00:14:21.372 --> 00:14:23.508
  • is we have a dailydevotional time.
  • 00:14:23.508 --> 00:14:25.610
  • And so at nighttime we havefamily prayer together.
  • 00:14:25.610 --> 00:14:28.579
  • But then during the day I alsolike to sit down with them
  • 00:14:28.579 --> 00:14:31.582
  • and we go throughdifferent devotionals
  • 00:14:31.582 --> 00:14:33.217
  • that talk about eitheridentity in Christ
  • 00:14:33.217 --> 00:14:35.520
  • or talks aboutbiblical womanhood
  • 00:14:35.520 --> 00:14:37.822
  • or just talks about differentthings where they're at.
  • 00:14:37.822 --> 00:14:39.590
  • My 12-year-old, it's a littlebit different of material
  • 00:14:39.590 --> 00:14:42.060
  • than my nine-year-old per se
  • 00:14:42.060 --> 00:14:43.728
  • but that's somethingthat also teaches them
  • 00:14:43.728 --> 00:14:46.864
  • about their spiritual gifts.
  • 00:14:46.864 --> 00:14:48.299
  • But also more than anythingI think it's important
  • 00:14:48.299 --> 00:14:50.935
  • as parents that we modelour spiritual gifts
  • 00:14:50.935 --> 00:14:54.272
  • because our kids are basicallyimitators of what we do,
  • 00:14:54.272 --> 00:14:57.709
  • especially when they're younger.
  • 00:14:57.709 --> 00:14:59.210
  • And so I can't speakfor when they're older.
  • 00:14:59.210 --> 00:15:01.412
  • We're not there yet.
  • 00:15:01.412 --> 00:15:02.246
  • But when they're younger
  • 00:15:02.246 --> 00:15:03.881
  • I want them to see meencourage other people.
  • 00:15:03.881 --> 00:15:07.885
  • I want them tosee me show mercy.
  • 00:15:07.885 --> 00:15:10.521
  • I want them to see medemonstrate faith or giving
  • 00:15:10.521 --> 00:15:14.258
  • or even evangelism whenI travel or when I speak.
  • 00:15:14.258 --> 00:15:17.562
  • I want them to see theteaching gift that's in me.
  • 00:15:17.562 --> 00:15:20.698
  • I want them to see whenthere's a word of knowledge
  • 00:15:20.698 --> 00:15:24.335
  • or a prophetic giftingor a prophetic word
  • 00:15:24.335 --> 00:15:26.671
  • that God has givenme for somebody.
  • 00:15:26.671 --> 00:15:29.173
  • I want them to see that.
  • 00:15:29.173 --> 00:15:30.742
  • So I make sure I includethem in every part of my life
  • 00:15:30.742 --> 00:15:35.747
  • that they're privy to especiallywhen it comes to ministry.
  • 00:15:37.115 --> 00:15:39.150
  • Obviously at workthey're not with me
  • 00:15:39.150 --> 00:15:41.319
  • but when it comes to ministryor even serving at church
  • 00:15:41.319 --> 00:15:44.255
  • I take them with me
  • 00:15:44.255 --> 00:15:45.656
  • so that they can seespiritual gifts modeled out.
  • 00:15:45.656 --> 00:15:49.560
  • And then at other times for us
  • 00:15:50.962 --> 00:15:52.697
  • it can be teachingoff of a platform.
  • 00:15:52.697 --> 00:15:54.699
  • Like that's a spiritualgift for you guys.
  • 00:15:54.699 --> 00:15:57.101
  • Every now and thenI do that as well,
  • 00:15:57.101 --> 00:15:58.870
  • just on a much smaller scale.
  • 00:15:58.870 --> 00:16:00.638
  • So I think when we look atdifferent seasons in our life
  • 00:16:00.638 --> 00:16:03.441
  • and the giftings thatthe word of God says
  • 00:16:03.441 --> 00:16:05.576
  • are spiritual gifts
  • 00:16:05.576 --> 00:16:06.978
  • it's a lot easier tokind of accept them.
  • 00:16:06.978 --> 00:16:09.580
  • And those weirdos andthose weird situations,
  • 00:16:09.580 --> 00:16:11.849
  • we can kind of go--
  • 00:16:11.849 --> 00:16:12.984
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:16:12.984 --> 00:16:13.918
  • - I'm gonna brush that off
  • 00:16:13.918 --> 00:16:15.186
  • because I know whatthe word of God says
  • 00:16:15.186 --> 00:16:16.421
  • and I know how toapply that in my life.
  • 00:16:16.421 --> 00:16:17.889
  • - I think too like thenegatives that I've seen
  • 00:16:17.889 --> 00:16:20.792
  • because I would saythe prophetic has been
  • 00:16:20.792 --> 00:16:22.660
  • the most wonderfulthing in my life
  • 00:16:22.660 --> 00:16:24.095
  • but also the most painful.
  • 00:16:24.095 --> 00:16:25.296
  • - Yeah.
  • 00:16:25.296 --> 00:16:26.798
  • - Which is really interestingkind of what you're saying.
  • 00:16:26.798 --> 00:16:27.732
  • And I remember at one point
  • 00:16:27.732 --> 00:16:29.467
  • I thought something wasgonna happen in my life
  • 00:16:29.467 --> 00:16:31.269
  • and I had, I was in aprophetic atmosphere
  • 00:16:31.269 --> 00:16:33.237
  • and they were like this is God
  • 00:16:33.237 --> 00:16:34.705
  • and this is what's gonnahappen and it didn't happen,
  • 00:16:34.705 --> 00:16:37.675
  • I mean not in the slightest.
  • 00:16:37.675 --> 00:16:39.477
  • And I thought God, why wouldthat, why did that happen?
  • 00:16:39.477 --> 00:16:42.680
  • I thought it was gonna happen.
  • 00:16:42.680 --> 00:16:45.383
  • They thought itwas gonna happen.
  • 00:16:45.383 --> 00:16:46.851
  • They said things theydidn't know anything about
  • 00:16:46.851 --> 00:16:49.253
  • and then came andthen confirmed it.
  • 00:16:49.253 --> 00:16:51.289
  • And I really went to God andsaid, "I, this is offensive.
  • 00:16:51.289 --> 00:16:54.158
  • "Why is this?"
  • 00:16:54.158 --> 00:16:54.992
  • I find this with people
  • 00:16:54.992 --> 00:16:56.160
  • that maybe think they'regonna have a baby
  • 00:16:56.160 --> 00:16:57.562
  • or maybe they think they'regonna marry somebody
  • 00:16:57.562 --> 00:16:58.763
  • or maybe they thinkthey're gonna get a job
  • 00:16:58.763 --> 00:17:00.264
  • and they get a prophetic wordand somebody says it to them
  • 00:17:00.264 --> 00:17:02.667
  • but it doesn't happen.
  • 00:17:02.667 --> 00:17:04.168
  • And it took me a longseason to understand
  • 00:17:04.168 --> 00:17:06.671
  • that there was a difference
  • 00:17:06.671 --> 00:17:07.839
  • between the propheticand discernment.
  • 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:10.007
  • So if Katie and I arehaving a conversation
  • 00:17:10.007 --> 00:17:12.677
  • and I sense she hasa longing for a child
  • 00:17:12.677 --> 00:17:16.013
  • I can in my own humanitytry to appease her pain
  • 00:17:16.013 --> 00:17:19.817
  • by prophesying something to her
  • 00:17:19.817 --> 00:17:22.954
  • or I can meet her in mydiscernment where she is
  • 00:17:22.954 --> 00:17:26.023
  • and say hey, I'mwith you in this.
  • 00:17:26.023 --> 00:17:28.292
  • And what I think in immatureprophetic environments
  • 00:17:28.292 --> 00:17:30.962
  • we have a tendency to tryto appease people's pains
  • 00:17:30.962 --> 00:17:34.065
  • by completing sentences for God
  • 00:17:34.065 --> 00:17:36.634
  • rather than sayingI'll be with you in it.
  • 00:17:36.634 --> 00:17:39.170
  • I don't know, I sense this
  • 00:17:39.170 --> 00:17:41.072
  • but I'm not gonnaprophesy it to you.
  • 00:17:41.072 --> 00:17:43.541
  • And I just have found
  • 00:17:43.541 --> 00:17:44.709
  • that what was happeningin my own story
  • 00:17:44.709 --> 00:17:46.744
  • was that they werediscerning a longing
  • 00:17:46.744 --> 00:17:48.746
  • or even maybe somethingabout the story
  • 00:17:48.746 --> 00:17:51.449
  • and they were tryingto complete it for me.
  • 00:17:51.449 --> 00:17:53.251
  • And the reaction was joybecause who doesn't want joy
  • 00:17:53.251 --> 00:17:56.420
  • in the middle of the wondering?
  • 00:17:56.420 --> 00:17:58.055
  • But it was actuallyhurting the story.
  • 00:17:58.055 --> 00:18:00.091
  • And I think in our own lives,
  • 00:18:00.091 --> 00:18:01.692
  • like oh, I'm discerningthis about Alex
  • 00:18:01.692 --> 00:18:03.928
  • or to Laurie I'm gonnaget a discernment moment.
  • 00:18:03.928 --> 00:18:06.430
  • I can see there's pain
  • 00:18:06.430 --> 00:18:07.698
  • but to say oh, there'sgonna be restoration,
  • 00:18:07.698 --> 00:18:09.967
  • I don't know ifthere's restoration.
  • 00:18:09.967 --> 00:18:11.202
  • But what I do knowis that there's pain
  • 00:18:11.202 --> 00:18:13.037
  • so let's, I'll meet you there.
  • 00:18:13.037 --> 00:18:14.772
  • And if God gives me morethen I'll share that
  • 00:18:14.772 --> 00:18:17.175
  • but if I don't getany more I cannot--
  • 00:18:17.175 --> 00:18:18.876
  • - Yes, there's pain.
  • 00:18:18.876 --> 00:18:19.710
  • (group laughing)
  • 00:18:19.710 --> 00:18:21.179
  • - Just give you pain, yes.
  • 00:18:21.179 --> 00:18:22.246
  • But it takes wisdom and maturity
  • 00:18:22.246 --> 00:18:24.382
  • for me not to completeGod's sentences.
  • 00:18:24.382 --> 00:18:25.850
  • - Yes, to fill in the blank.
  • 00:18:25.850 --> 00:18:27.218
  • - And that's what Ithink is the issue.
  • 00:18:27.218 --> 00:18:29.053
  • I think the enemywould love nothing more
  • 00:18:29.053 --> 00:18:31.455
  • than to have usbuild our identity
  • 00:18:31.455 --> 00:18:33.958
  • on anything other than Christ.
  • 00:18:33.958 --> 00:18:35.860
  • And oftentimes when webegin to open up our hearts
  • 00:18:35.860 --> 00:18:38.930
  • to the propheticand hear God's voice
  • 00:18:38.930 --> 00:18:41.165
  • and begin to hear God'svoice for other people
  • 00:18:41.165 --> 00:18:43.534
  • the enemy would love ouridentity to be attached to that,
  • 00:18:43.534 --> 00:18:46.504
  • that we are now importantbecause we hear God.
  • 00:18:46.504 --> 00:18:49.207
  • We are now important becausewe can speak on behalf of God.
  • 00:18:49.207 --> 00:18:52.043
  • And what's really important
  • 00:18:52.043 --> 00:18:53.644
  • is that we areactually servants.
  • 00:18:53.644 --> 00:18:56.347
  • We are under his authorityand we're being led by him.
  • 00:18:56.347 --> 00:18:58.983
  • So when we feel an unctionto say something to someone
  • 00:18:58.983 --> 00:19:01.852
  • we've got to know is Godasking me to say that
  • 00:19:01.852 --> 00:19:04.722
  • or am I kind of gettingout in front of him
  • 00:19:04.722 --> 00:19:07.258
  • and trying to solve the problem
  • 00:19:07.258 --> 00:19:08.659
  • or is my identitywrapped up in this?
  • 00:19:08.659 --> 00:19:10.928
  • So most of us won'tdeal with that
  • 00:19:10.928 --> 00:19:12.730
  • because it's kind ofscary to share God's word
  • 00:19:12.730 --> 00:19:14.999
  • to other people or evenhear it for our own lives.
  • 00:19:14.999 --> 00:19:17.501
  • But there are some of usthat overcome that fear
  • 00:19:17.501 --> 00:19:20.238
  • and we get to a place
  • 00:19:20.238 --> 00:19:21.472
  • where it begins tobe a place of pride.
  • 00:19:21.472 --> 00:19:23.441
  • And so we have to pull back
  • 00:19:23.441 --> 00:19:24.942
  • and say okay, Holy Spirit,you're leading the boat.
  • 00:19:24.942 --> 00:19:27.445
  • You're in the driver's seat.
  • 00:19:27.445 --> 00:19:28.913
  • I'm here to follow and I'mnot gonna go out ahead of you.
  • 00:19:28.913 --> 00:19:32.149
  • And if you are not sayingit I'm not gonna say it
  • 00:19:32.149 --> 00:19:34.885
  • no matter I want to say.
  • 00:19:34.885 --> 00:19:36.621
  • I'm gonna be under yourleadership and your authority.
  • 00:19:36.621 --> 00:19:39.523
  • - Well I feel like that'swhen people take a soul read--
  • 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:44.762
  • - Yes.
  • 00:19:44.762 --> 00:19:45.997
  • - Rather than beled by the spirit.
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  • So they're going after the soul.
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  • Because I've watched thiswhere we've had some people
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  • where they too, I thinkbecause of their woundedness
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  • and because and thisis what I've discerned
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  • over the years of pastoring,
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  • is they didn't geta certain thing.
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  • So now it's almostlike they're aware.
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  • So say like you'rea worship leader
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  • and you now go to a new church
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  • and you really desireworship leading.
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  • I'm a worship leader.
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  • Now I'm at this church andI'm not worship leading
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  • but I can see the angst,the longing, the desire.
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  • So now I come alongsideand my soul is reading some
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  • because you know howlike just attracts like.
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  • It's like the offendedones come together,
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  • the gossips come together,the wounded come together.
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  • It's like a magnet.
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  • And they haven'tgot a prophetic gift
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  • but because there's a woundand because there's a soul read
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  • it's now like heyKatie, I see you.
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  • You should be worship leading.
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  • And you're like (gasps) yousee me, yes, God's seen me.
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  • And it's a soul read.
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  • But what about if God's actuallywanting to do something?
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  • This is why we need- Right, right.
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  • to sometimes be very careful
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  • because that's where thatmanipulation comes in
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  • where we're soul readinginstead of spirit.
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  • And because the propheticconfirms his word
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  • and it affirms and itexhorts and it encourage
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  • but sometimes there'sa read on a soul.
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  • And I have felt it towhere in the wrong timing
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  • when I wasn't being launchedon a platform to speak
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  • I had another person come up.
  • 00:21:10.381 --> 00:21:11.649
  • "Oh, you should, they'renot noticing your gift.
  • 00:21:11.649 --> 00:21:14.652
  • "You should be preaching."
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  • And I'm like yes, I should.
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  • (group laughing)
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  • So what does it do?
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  • - That's a reason not to know.
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  • - It brings a divideand an offense.
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  • That's not the spirit of God.
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  • Because what's that doing there?
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  • That's bringing adivide and an offense.
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  • But when it's theword of the Lord
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  • for not yet theappointed time up,
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  • oh, that's life-giving butI've got to discern now.
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  • And so we've got to be careful
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  • for those that have soul read.
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  • And I've seen a lot of people.
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  • Like we had this one guy go,
  • 00:21:41.579 --> 00:21:43.214
  • "Oh, someone came upand gave me a word
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  • "and they said I'm gonnahave two number one hits
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  • "by this time."
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  • I knew straight away
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  • that is not the wordof the Lord, right.
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  • Doesn't happen,well did it happen?
  • 00:21:50.020 --> 00:21:52.123
  • Thank God that that falseprophetic person set a date
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  • because I said, "Well."
  • 00:21:55.059 --> 00:21:56.594
  • They came up to me, "Whatdo you think, Pastor Alex?"
  • 00:21:56.594 --> 00:21:57.294
  • - We'll see.
  • 00:21:57.294 --> 00:21:58.596
  • - And I said, "Well theygave you a date, right?
  • 00:21:58.596 --> 00:22:00.097
  • "Let's wait for the date."
  • 00:22:00.097 --> 00:22:01.832
  • The date came andwent, no number ones.
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  • I said, "That was a soulread to make you feel better
  • 00:22:04.468 --> 00:22:07.104
  • "because that's actuallya desire of your heart
  • 00:22:07.104 --> 00:22:08.606
  • "but maybe God'sactually not wanting you
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  • "to have a number one."
  • 00:22:10.141 --> 00:22:11.375
  • - Right.
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  • - And there'ssomething deeper there.
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  • So I've think we've got
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  • to really watch the soul read- Excellent, I love that.
  • 00:22:14.745 --> 00:22:17.014
  • versus the spirit.
  • 00:22:17.014 --> 00:22:18.416
  • - It's so natural for me even
  • 00:22:18.416 --> 00:22:19.850
  • to try to want tofinish the story
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  • before God actually speaks.
  • 00:22:22.219 --> 00:22:23.521
  • And so yeah, I'll get a picture.
  • 00:22:23.521 --> 00:22:25.089
  • I get a lot of pictures.
  • 00:22:25.089 --> 00:22:26.490
  • And so sometimeseven like being a mom
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  • sometimes I'm justthere to comfort.
  • 00:22:28.926 --> 00:22:30.828
  • Sometimes I'm just there tobe like I see you, I hear you.
  • 00:22:30.828 --> 00:22:33.230
  • You're crying, you justneed to know I'm here.
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  • You're in this moment.
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  • You're in your bed.
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  • You need to go to sleep.
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  • I'm here and you canknow that I'm here.
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  • I'm not gonna fix thisfor you right now.
  • 00:22:40.638 --> 00:22:43.307
  • But in my humanityand seeing like oh,
  • 00:22:43.307 --> 00:22:45.509
  • I've seen a littlepiece of this.
  • 00:22:45.509 --> 00:22:47.011
  • I want to just fill in therest of the blanks for you,
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  • I'm totally guilty of that
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  • and I think that's empatheticor that's compassion.
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  • - Right.
  • 00:22:52.483 --> 00:22:53.451
  • - And really God's like oh man,
  • 00:22:53.451 --> 00:22:54.852
  • like he's just just like man.
  • 00:22:54.852 --> 00:22:56.120
  • - Yeah, let it alone.
  • 00:22:56.120 --> 00:22:57.087
  • - Just leave it.
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  • Just tell them that I see, thatI hear, that I'm with them.
  • 00:22:58.589 --> 00:23:01.358
  • - Working.
  • 00:23:01.358 --> 00:23:02.159
  • - Yeah, yeah.
  • 00:23:02.159 --> 00:23:03.561
  • - I remember hearinga good message on that
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  • where the Ark of the Covenant,when it was put on the cart
  • 00:23:05.563 --> 00:23:08.833
  • and they went, Uzzahwent to save it
  • 00:23:08.833 --> 00:23:11.535
  • and he got struck dead and died.
  • 00:23:11.535 --> 00:23:13.437
  • And I always just thinkgee, that was mean.
  • 00:23:13.437 --> 00:23:15.406
  • He was trying to help you.
  • 00:23:15.406 --> 00:23:17.341
  • But actually God,someone unpacked it,
  • 00:23:17.341 --> 00:23:20.077
  • the revelation that saidactually the Ark needed to fall
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  • because they hadn'tobeyed the instruction
  • 00:23:24.348 --> 00:23:26.383
  • that it needed to becarried on the shoulders,
  • 00:23:26.383 --> 00:23:28.052
  • not on a cart.
  • 00:23:28.052 --> 00:23:29.520
  • And sometimes we comein trying to fix it
  • 00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:32.957
  • and God says I needsome things to fall
  • 00:23:32.957 --> 00:23:35.459
  • because actually back therethey never obeyed instruction.
  • 00:23:35.459 --> 00:23:39.697
  • Isn't that apowerful revelation?
  • 00:23:39.697 --> 00:23:41.665
  • - Some tearing down.
  • 00:23:41.665 --> 00:23:42.900
  • - And I was like oh,sometimes we go in
  • 00:23:42.900 --> 00:23:45.336
  • on something prophetically
  • 00:23:45.336 --> 00:23:47.204
  • when all we'resupposed to do is pray
  • 00:23:47.204 --> 00:23:49.640
  • because we're trying to fix it
  • 00:23:49.640 --> 00:23:51.108
  • and God goes I needthat thing to fall
  • 00:23:51.108 --> 00:23:53.444
  • because I've got bigger things--
  • 00:23:53.444 --> 00:23:54.378
  • - Like Jonah going to Nineveh.
  • 00:23:54.378 --> 00:23:55.713
  • Jonah's going to Nineveh.
  • 00:23:55.713 --> 00:23:57.448
  • Here you're throwing allyour good stuff overboard
  • 00:23:57.448 --> 00:24:00.351
  • and I want Jonah overboard
  • 00:24:00.351 --> 00:24:01.752
  • because he's gettinghis butt to Nineveh.
  • 00:24:01.752 --> 00:24:03.921
  • - I love that.
  • 00:24:05.155 --> 00:24:06.624
  • - So for some ofyou watching this
  • 00:24:06.624 --> 00:24:08.158
  • you might be thinking gosh,
  • 00:24:08.158 --> 00:24:09.994
  • I would like the HolySpirit in my life.
  • 00:24:09.994 --> 00:24:11.996
  • You know, I'venever really asked.
  • 00:24:11.996 --> 00:24:13.264
  • I assumed it had tobe a certain person
  • 00:24:13.264 --> 00:24:14.932
  • or a certain type ofthing and now I'm hungry.
  • 00:24:14.932 --> 00:24:17.701
  • I want something like this.
  • 00:24:17.701 --> 00:24:19.203
  • Or maybe you have askedbut you haven't really had
  • 00:24:19.203 --> 00:24:21.438
  • that tangible experienceof God's presence.
  • 00:24:21.438 --> 00:24:24.675
  • Guess what, he can meet youright here as you watch this.
  • 00:24:24.675 --> 00:24:27.978
  • So I'm gonna pray for youand let's believe together
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  • that you can encounter him.
  • 00:24:30.781 --> 00:24:32.383
  • So Holy Spirit, I thankyou for their life.
  • 00:24:32.383 --> 00:24:35.853
  • I thank you that youare in their room
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  • right now where they are
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  • and I thank you that yourpresence can transcend
  • 00:24:39.390 --> 00:24:42.192
  • any situation that they'rein and you can fill them.
  • 00:24:42.192 --> 00:24:45.429
  • So Holy Spirit, I ask right now
  • 00:24:45.429 --> 00:24:48.132
  • that you would fill themfrom the top of their head
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  • to the tips of their toes,
  • 00:24:50.668 --> 00:24:51.835
  • they would encounteryour presence.
  • 00:24:51.835 --> 00:24:54.405
  • Lord, we know that youare real, you are alive,
  • 00:24:54.405 --> 00:24:57.474
  • and you want to encounter them.
  • 00:24:57.474 --> 00:24:59.610
  • So I ask right now thatthey would experience you,
  • 00:24:59.610 --> 00:25:03.447
  • a tangible presence of thefilling of the Holy Spirit
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  • and they would link it to today.
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  • Today was the momentwhere they encountered you
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