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March 5, 2020
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The Final Say | Better Together

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  • - What is trying toshake your faith?
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  • Today we are livingtestimonies of the fact
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  • that God has the final say.
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  • Come on, join our conversation.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - Back in 2008, myhusband and I found out
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  • that we were pregnantwith our third child,
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  • who was a very welcomedsurprise, he was surprise.
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  • (all laughing)
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  • - Did you forgethow that happened?
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  • - Our kids were eightand 11 at the time
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  • and boom, I'm pregnant again.
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  • Carson was born and westarted all over, right?
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  • 'Cause you know youhave older kids,
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  • and you have the new baby.
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  • Our life was really busy, wewere in full time ministry,
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  • on staff at church andtraveling in ministry as well,
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  • two older kids andall the activities.
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  • So our little guy, Carson,
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  • around the age oftwo, as we take him
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  • to his pediatrician appointments
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  • and the doctor's asking aboutthese certain miles stones
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  • and how many words is he saying,all these different things.
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  • Busy mom of three and I'm like,
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  • "You know, I guess I'mreally not paying attention
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  • "to those things like Idid with my other two"
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  • and just realizingthat language really
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  • wasn't coming for himlike it should be.
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  • Just some developmental delays.
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  • So the age of two we startedhim in speech therapy
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  • and he was doing well.
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  • I was doing my ownlittle research online
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  • of different thingsbut no one, no doctor,
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  • no therapist wassaying the word to me
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  • that I, the scary word, theword that I didn't wanna hear,
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  • until he began preschool.
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  • He qualified for agreat preschool program
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  • through our public school system
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  • because of his speech needs.
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  • So when he startedpreschool the teacher met
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  • with me and my husbandabout a month in
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  • and she said, "You know, Ithink there's more going on here
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  • "than what meets the eye.
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  • "In the classroom there's somedifferent things happening
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  • "and we want to bringin our Autism team
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  • "to do some more testing".
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  • I remember in that moment,
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  • so we were sitting inthe little classroom,
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  • in the little shortpreschool chairs (laughs),
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  • and we were leavinglater that day
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  • for a ministry engagementacross the country
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  • and when she said theword autism I immediately,
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  • first was very defensive.
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  • I'm like you don't know my son,
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  • you've had him inyour class for a month
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  • and you're trying toput a label on him
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  • because he might be alittle more difficult
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  • for you to deal with.
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  • So it was very resistantbut I felt like
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  • I had been punched inthe gut because something
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  • in my heart just kind of knew,
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  • but I didn't wanna sayit, I didn't wanna see it.
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  • So I remember we wentaway that weekend
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  • for this ministry eventand my, I was so not there.
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  • My mind was not in themoment of what we were doing
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  • and I just remember we'dgo back to the hotel room
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  • and my husband hadjust written this song.
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  • They had demoed the songas we were listening to it
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  • and the lyric was,"Don't be far from me,
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  • "I'm here waiting on you.
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  • "God I'm not moving, I'mhere waiting on you".
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  • And I remember justlaying on that hotel bed
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  • just weeping, just sobroken at the thought,
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  • at the idea of this.
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  • The facts hadn't come inyet but I just, you know.
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  • I resisted the testingfor about a month or so,
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  • and then I finally said,
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  • we came through the holidaysand my husband and I were like,
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  • "You know what, yeah, Ithink they might be right".
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  • And so we wentthrough the process
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  • of a couple months ofthe school psychologist,
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  • the different therapistsdoing different kinds
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  • of tests and honestly Ithought even when we went
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  • to that final meetingto get the results,
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  • I thought, "He'snot on the spectrum.
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  • "He's not on theautism spectrum.
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  • "They're gonna be surprised,they're gonna say, you know".
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  • And we sit down for that meeting
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  • and I heard the wordsconfirmed that he indeed
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  • was on the spectrum.
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  • He was a child that qualified.
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  • What was the exactverbiage that they used?
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  • He has Autism Spectrum Disorder,
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  • and he was moderateon the spectrum.
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  • And so began our journey.
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  • I think the difficultiesthat our son had
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  • didn't change whenthat label came
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  • but the label and the wordautism scared me so much
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  • and just brought so manyquestions and so much fear
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  • because there's, first ofall, a unknown about it
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  • and what does thatmean for his future.
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  • Will he know love?
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  • Will he have a familyof his own one day?
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  • Will he be successful?
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  • When you receive a diagnosis,
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  • the name of the disease, orthe name of the challenge,
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  • sometimes can just bereally intimidating.
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  • So when we received thediagnosis of autism for our son,
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  • even though he still had, hewas already in speech therapy.
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  • He was already in thesetherapies to help him,
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  • but because there's somuch unknown about autism,
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  • so much fear surrounding theword, it just impacted me.
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  • It hit me really hardand I had to learn
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  • to say God isgreater than autism.
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  • And so I'm not gonna beintimidated by a label
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  • or a diagnosis because he'sstill the same little boy
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  • that he was before wegot the name autism.
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  • It's little things like that,
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  • that can kinda play withour mind and kinda mess
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  • with our faith, right?
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  • But that's why we haveto have the revelation
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  • of who God is andreally how great He is.
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  • That He's greater thancancer, He's greater than
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  • any disease, anysituation we may face,
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  • and He is greater than autism.
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  • He is greater thanDown Syndrome.
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  • Any challenge thatyou may be facing,
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  • that your child may be facing,
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  • the Lord will carryyou through it
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  • and you can overcomebut we gotta know
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  • that He's greater.
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  • You know I've alwaysbeen a worshiper.
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  • My husband and I have beenworship leaders for years
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  • and I love the presence of God.
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  • I remember thinkingthe well of worship
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  • in my soul, I was justlike scraping bottom.
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  • In order to fight through this,
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  • the well of my worshiphas go to deeper.
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  • Through the journeys we began,
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  • it was right after heturned four years old
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  • that we got the diagnosis.
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  • So more speech therapy,more occupational therapy,
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  • but it was a fewyears down the road
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  • of walking through allof this that I realized.
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  • You grieve what, theexpectations and hopes,
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  • that you had for your child
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  • and when you havetwo normal kids
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  • you're totally unawareof this whole world
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  • that exists of familieswith special needs kids
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  • until you're there and in it.
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  • Four or five years down the road
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  • I realize as I'm watchingthese old home movies,
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  • before we got theword, the diagnosis,
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  • I realize man, I had somuch joy in being his mom
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  • before the diagnosisand I realized
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  • that I had lost that joy.
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  • - They robbed you of those.
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  • - Yeah once that wordcame, once the news came,
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  • the diagnosis came.
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  • That day as I was watchingthose movies, I'm like Lord.
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  • I just made a decision.
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  • I had walked through afew years of grieving
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  • and again, just theprocess of therapy,
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  • and he's doing so well.
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  • He's hilarious, first of all.
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  • He is his father's child,let me just say that.
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  • But I took my joyback of being his mom
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  • and we walked thisjourney of faith
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  • and what the Lord reallytaught me also through that
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  • was how to fight.
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  • How to fight for mychild and how to stand
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  • in the victory of Jesus.
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  • - I think it beginswith finding joy
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  • in the situation thatyou're in right now.
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  • Even if it's not oneof your choosing,
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  • you don't wanna be here.
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  • But when the Apostle Paul says,
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  • "Count it all joy inthis circumstance",
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  • so what, where canyou find joy now?
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  • Is the sun shining, isthere snow on the ground?
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  • Did you have a good cupof coffee, I don't know.
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  • Where can you expressgratitude or find joy,
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  • that goes a long way towardlearning to be content.
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  • - It's just been this journey
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  • that we've been onthat was something
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  • I definitely wouldhave never asked for.
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  • I'd just help somebodyelse through that,
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  • through their journey, butfor that to happen to us,
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  • it was just really overwhelming.
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  • So it's this beautifuljourney but we are overcoming.
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  • It's like you get a diagnosis
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  • and it's like a long term thing.
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  • It's not like a fatal disease.
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  • You're like okay I'mgonna believe for healing
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  • and for restorationand in year you know
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  • whether or notthat miracle came,
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  • but this is likean ongoing journey.
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  • He's 11 years oldnow and we continue
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  • to process through and he'smaking so much progress
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  • and it's beautifulbut it's hard.
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  • - "The Bible" says thatSatan comes to steal,
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  • and to kill, and to destroy.
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  • So that means he justwants to take your joy,
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  • make you live a defeated life,
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  • and everything just suck.
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  • I think that's hismain goal in life
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  • is to take our faith.
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  • Jesus comes up we have life.
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  • And that we have life abundantly
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  • and so to stand and not let.
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  • You know I rememberwhen I was pregnant,
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  • I was six monthspregnant when they told
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  • me my baby had been deadfor a month in my womb.
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  • It was like, what?
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  • I just could not believe it
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  • and my body thoughtit was pregnant
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  • and I kept throwing upand the whole story.
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  • I just remember sitting downin the mirror in the morning,
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  • 'cause they had to getthe baby out right away.
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  • And I remember gettingup the next morning,
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  • headed to the hospitaland I was so confused.
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  • For God to breathelife into my child,
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  • God can do all thatand we know He can.
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  • But will He?
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  • And so do you just goahead and take the baby out
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  • or do you just stand thereand try to believe for life?
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  • Just this strugglewith your faith,
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  • then it's just GodI'm going to trust you
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  • but I rememberlooking in the mirror
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  • and saying, "You know what,if this is about my joy,
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  • "I'm gonna keep my joybecause what better thing
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  • "in my life is to have my baby
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  • "in the arms of God right now?"
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  • So changing theperception out of loss
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  • and losing somethinginto my God.
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  • - It does take a learninghow to have peace
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  • no matter what the circumstance
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  • and learning that peace ispossible, no matter what,
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  • and that is supernatural peace.
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  • It's not peace becauseof our circumstances.
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  • It's the peacethat's supernatural,
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  • that supersedes allof our circumstances
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  • and a peace that onlycan come from God.
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  • It doesn't come from withinus and within our own strength
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  • and it's asking God, andfor me it's begging God,
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  • it's getting on my kneeswith my face on the ground
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  • and begging God for thatpeace when I feel like
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  • there is justturmoil in my heart.
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  • And it doesn'talways come easily.
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  • It doesn't alwayscome naturally.
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  • And it isn't always there.
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  • And sometimes it takeswaiting to wait on the peace
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  • from God but I knowthat peace is possible.
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  • - Connect with uson social media.
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  • - Like, comment, and share yourfavorite moments from today.
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  • - We can't wait for youto join our community.
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  • - I love that whole joy thing
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  • because that's whatthe enemy wants.
  • 00:13:33.569 --> 00:13:35.237
  • He wants your joy whichis an inward stability,
  • 00:13:35.237 --> 00:13:39.308
  • that God gives usfor our strength,
  • 00:13:39.308 --> 00:13:41.277
  • for our ability tostand and continue.
  • 00:13:41.277 --> 00:13:43.913
  • What the enemy wantsto do is to take
  • 00:13:43.913 --> 00:13:46.348
  • the joy that was setbefore you, the end.
  • 00:13:46.348 --> 00:13:49.852
  • He takes you all the wayto the end of something
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  • and it robs you of the moments
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  • that you're supposedto be enjoying.
  • 00:13:54.957 --> 00:13:57.793
  • Like you was sayingabout your son.
  • 00:13:57.793 --> 00:13:59.595
  • He robbed you of so many moments
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  • because you were focusedon the end of something,
  • 00:14:01.130 --> 00:14:05.067
  • like what's the end?
  • 00:14:05.067 --> 00:14:06.335
  • I remember when Mikewas in the hospital
  • 00:14:06.335 --> 00:14:08.837
  • and he was paralyzedfrom his neck down
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  • and he didn't want anybody else,
  • 00:14:12.574 --> 00:14:14.376
  • no nurses or anybody washinghim or taking care of him
  • 00:14:14.376 --> 00:14:18.380
  • and I stayed inrehab with him 24/7,
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  • well, other then whenI had to minister.
  • 00:14:21.684 --> 00:14:23.452
  • I left to go stay homeand I would come back.
  • 00:14:23.452 --> 00:14:25.921
  • But I remember stayingat that hospital
  • 00:14:25.921 --> 00:14:28.123
  • with him all the timeand I had to tell myself,
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  • "Okay, I'm not goingto allow the enemy
  • 00:14:31.193 --> 00:14:34.596
  • "to have our joywhile we're going
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  • "through this process".
  • 00:14:36.999 --> 00:14:38.334
  • And so I began to do stuff.
  • 00:14:38.334 --> 00:14:40.302
  • I remember picking himup on that hoyer lift,
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  • you know, paralyzedfrom his neck down,
  • 00:14:43.238 --> 00:14:45.808
  • putting him in the chairand I would put the table
  • 00:14:45.808 --> 00:14:48.077
  • in front of him.
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  • I would do it by myselfand I would go get crabs
  • 00:14:49.345 --> 00:14:53.983
  • because he liked crabs.
  • 00:14:53.983 --> 00:14:55.684
  • I would say, "Okay, wegonna eat crabs together".
  • 00:14:55.684 --> 00:14:58.120
  • This was a date nightand I took pictures,
  • 00:14:58.120 --> 00:14:59.755
  • we took little selfieswhile he's paralyzed
  • 00:14:59.755 --> 00:15:03.058
  • and I'm feeding him crab legs.
  • 00:15:03.058 --> 00:15:05.861
  • But what the enemywanted to do was
  • 00:15:05.861 --> 00:15:07.429
  • to rob me of that momentand to just get to the end
  • 00:15:07.429 --> 00:15:12.301
  • and say, "Okaywhere's this gonna go?
  • 00:15:12.301 --> 00:15:14.470
  • "Am I gonna have to takecare of him like this?
  • 00:15:14.470 --> 00:15:16.438
  • "Is he ever going to beable to minister again?"
  • 00:15:16.438 --> 00:15:19.742
  • I couldn't focus onall of that stuff
  • 00:15:19.742 --> 00:15:22.644
  • because it would have robbedme of all of those moments.
  • 00:15:22.644 --> 00:15:27.182
  • I mean I literallyhad to do things
  • 00:15:27.182 --> 00:15:29.918
  • and we would laugh and just--
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  • - The joy of theLord is our what?
  • 00:15:32.588 --> 00:15:34.356
  • - Our strength,it's our strength,
  • 00:15:34.356 --> 00:15:36.925
  • and that's what hewanted to come and take.
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  • There's no option for me tochoose joy or choose defeat.
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  • I didn't want defeat,so I choose joy.
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  • Joy is an option, everythingabout God's word is an option.
  • 00:15:47.202 --> 00:15:51.040
  • It's still on the inside of me,
  • 00:15:51.040 --> 00:15:53.308
  • so I can decide to pullout joy or look at defeat.
  • 00:15:53.308 --> 00:15:57.513
  • When my husbandwas going through
  • 00:15:57.513 --> 00:15:59.348
  • that traumatizingsituation where he
  • 00:15:59.348 --> 00:16:01.417
  • was paralyzed fromhis neck down,
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  • I decided to choosewhat was in me.
  • 00:16:04.119 --> 00:16:06.688
  • What was placed in meto win and that was
  • 00:16:06.688 --> 00:16:09.792
  • the joy of the Lord.
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  • Joy of the Lord isnot circumstantial.
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  • It's not based uponwhat's going on,
  • 00:16:13.362 --> 00:16:15.230
  • whether it's goodor whether it's bad.
  • 00:16:15.230 --> 00:16:18.033
  • It's based upon adecision to choose
  • 00:16:18.033 --> 00:16:20.903
  • so I chose life opposedto choosing death.
  • 00:16:20.903 --> 00:16:24.373
  • And that's what you'regonna have to do today.
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  • You're gonna haveto choose life.
  • 00:16:26.575 --> 00:16:27.976
  • You're gonna have to choose joy.
  • 00:16:27.976 --> 00:16:29.845
  • You're gonna haveto choose victory
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  • and I decided to choose joy.
  • 00:16:31.447 --> 00:16:34.817
  • - Joy, it's not thehappy clappy thing?
  • 00:16:34.817 --> 00:16:36.952
  • Joy is the steel rod thatholds you straight up
  • 00:16:36.952 --> 00:16:40.322
  • - Absolutely, absolutely.
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  • - When all hell is comingagainst you, it's joy that.
  • 00:16:42.558 --> 00:16:44.960
  • - Like inverse stability,that's strength.
  • 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.096
  • - That's so good, you'refighting back with joy.
  • 00:16:47.096 --> 00:16:49.832
  • - And David said rejoice,your soul rejoice.
  • 00:16:51.166 --> 00:16:55.938
  • That means he's re-joyinghimself in the Lord.
  • 00:16:57.306 --> 00:17:00.509
  • - And it's so counterintuitive,
  • 00:17:00.509 --> 00:17:02.644
  • especially in today'sclimate, right?
  • 00:17:02.644 --> 00:17:05.914
  • What we were talkingabout, in today's climate,
  • 00:17:05.914 --> 00:17:07.916
  • when you're in themiddle of a fight,
  • 00:17:07.916 --> 00:17:08.851
  • who you're putting around you.
  • 00:17:08.851 --> 00:17:10.452
  • There are people whowill let you stay down,
  • 00:17:10.452 --> 00:17:13.822
  • who will go, "Aw,it's okay to be--
  • 00:17:13.822 --> 00:17:16.692
  • - I can't do that,it makes me itch.
  • 00:17:16.692 --> 00:17:18.494
  • - No you need people whowill go, "Come on, come on,
  • 00:17:19.895 --> 00:17:22.364
  • "come on, I got you,come on, get up again".
  • 00:17:22.364 --> 00:17:25.067
  • Right, that's who you need,people who remind you.
  • 00:17:25.067 --> 00:17:28.003
  • It's so easy to have thepeople who try to go,
  • 00:17:28.003 --> 00:17:30.539
  • "No, you should juststay right here."
  • 00:17:30.539 --> 00:17:32.808
  • - Absolutely andthey don't realize--
  • 00:17:32.808 --> 00:17:34.810
  • - They want youto do the what if.
  • 00:17:34.810 --> 00:17:36.178
  • What if he never gets better?
  • 00:17:36.178 --> 00:17:37.646
  • They want you to planthe worst case scenarios.
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  • I don't want that, no.
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  • I'm gonna find joyin this moment,
  • 00:17:42.651 --> 00:17:44.953
  • trust God in this moment.
  • 00:17:44.953 --> 00:17:46.355
  • - Make the best of this moment.
  • 00:17:46.355 --> 00:17:49.224
  • - That stuff ismaximizing every moment
  • 00:17:49.224 --> 00:17:52.461
  • and most people don'tmaximize every moment.
  • 00:17:52.461 --> 00:17:55.564
  • We miss moments and Ialways like to know,
  • 00:17:55.564 --> 00:17:58.400
  • "God, what do you havefor me in this moment?"
  • 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.203
  • Can't be concerned abouttomorrow or the next moment.
  • 00:18:01.203 --> 00:18:04.640
  • Why does God have us all hereright now in this moment?
  • 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.110
  • What am I supposed to take away,
  • 00:18:08.110 --> 00:18:10.145
  • or what am I supposedto offer in this moment
  • 00:18:10.145 --> 00:18:13.682
  • and we miss so many moments.
  • 00:18:13.682 --> 00:18:15.150
  • - I just think we're unawareof how powerful that is.
  • 00:18:15.150 --> 00:18:17.753
  • Jesus was presentin every moment.
  • 00:18:17.753 --> 00:18:22.291
  • So He wasn't worriedabout the sick person
  • 00:18:22.291 --> 00:18:24.359
  • the next day, Hewas present here.
  • 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:27.296
  • And He challenged us,don't worry about tomorrow,
  • 00:18:27.296 --> 00:18:28.864
  • what you're gonna eat ordrink, or any of that stuff.
  • 00:18:28.864 --> 00:18:30.899
  • Today, today, andman that's hard.
  • 00:18:30.899 --> 00:18:34.603
  • - Enjoy is a choice, it'sa choice to choose joy.
  • 00:18:36.038 --> 00:18:38.807
  • You chose joy in thehospital with your husband.
  • 00:18:38.807 --> 00:18:41.443
  • It would have beeneasy not to choose joy,
  • 00:18:41.443 --> 00:18:42.945
  • it would have madesense not to choose joy,
  • 00:18:42.945 --> 00:18:45.147
  • but it's such a daily choice,
  • 00:18:45.147 --> 00:18:47.683
  • even when you're havingthe worst day of your life,
  • 00:18:47.683 --> 00:18:50.052
  • you can still choose joy.
  • 00:18:50.052 --> 00:18:51.553
  • - Absolutely.
  • 00:18:51.553 --> 00:18:52.387
  • - It's been amazing aswe've kind of shared,
  • 00:18:53.589 --> 00:18:55.857
  • through social media,shared bits and pieces
  • 00:18:55.857 --> 00:18:59.494
  • of Carson's storyand so many families,
  • 00:18:59.494 --> 00:19:03.899
  • because there are so manyfamilies impacted by autism,
  • 00:19:03.899 --> 00:19:06.635
  • the statistics are astounding,
  • 00:19:06.635 --> 00:19:08.604
  • and I mean they're soencouraged just to see
  • 00:19:08.604 --> 00:19:11.707
  • us walking though itand a journey of faith
  • 00:19:11.707 --> 00:19:16.712
  • and strength andto see the progress
  • 00:19:17.846 --> 00:19:20.382
  • and it's so encouragingas you just open up
  • 00:19:20.382 --> 00:19:22.451
  • your heart andyour life to people
  • 00:19:22.451 --> 00:19:24.286
  • to share what God is doing.
  • 00:19:24.286 --> 00:19:26.622
  • I love to get messages frommoms that have, oh man,
  • 00:19:26.622 --> 00:19:31.226
  • "I thank you so muchfor encouraging me".
  • 00:19:31.226 --> 00:19:34.096
  • Carson has these declarations
  • 00:19:34.096 --> 00:19:36.064
  • he makes every night at bedtime
  • 00:19:36.064 --> 00:19:37.432
  • and we've done this forsix years, five years.
  • 00:19:37.432 --> 00:19:41.570
  • I have a healthy brain, Ihave the mind of Christ,
  • 00:19:41.570 --> 00:19:44.873
  • I'm on overcomer bythe blood of the Lamb.
  • 00:19:44.873 --> 00:19:46.475
  • He knows them, hehas them memorized.
  • 00:19:46.475 --> 00:19:47.976
  • He goes all through themand at the end he says,
  • 00:19:47.976 --> 00:19:50.579
  • "I receive my healing".
  • 00:19:50.579 --> 00:19:52.581
  • We're fighting thegood fight of faith
  • 00:19:53.782 --> 00:19:56.118
  • and we trust the Lord.
  • 00:19:56.118 --> 00:19:58.320
  • - I think a lot oftimes things happen
  • 00:19:58.320 --> 00:20:00.689
  • that we'll never understand.
  • 00:20:00.689 --> 00:20:03.558
  • But you know what?
  • 00:20:03.558 --> 00:20:05.494
  • I always think about Jesus.
  • 00:20:05.494 --> 00:20:08.230
  • Jesus prayed, "Father, if You'lllet this cup pass from Me"
  • 00:20:08.230 --> 00:20:13.235
  • but then He finally said,
  • 00:20:14.269 --> 00:20:15.671
  • "It's not My willbut Thine be done".
  • 00:20:15.671 --> 00:20:18.774
  • And I think sometimeswe just need to give
  • 00:20:18.774 --> 00:20:20.709
  • it over to God and just say,
  • 00:20:20.709 --> 00:20:23.045
  • "God you know what I want,
  • 00:20:23.045 --> 00:20:24.579
  • "You know what would suitme really good right now,
  • 00:20:24.579 --> 00:20:28.317
  • "but I know You know best
  • 00:20:28.317 --> 00:20:30.552
  • "and I know that You'vegot it all under control
  • 00:20:30.552 --> 00:20:35.223
  • "so not my will,but Thine be done".
  • 00:20:35.223 --> 00:20:37.559
  • - I think sometimes people think
  • 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:38.760
  • when you're fightingfor something
  • 00:20:38.760 --> 00:20:40.329
  • that you can't be content.
  • 00:20:40.329 --> 00:20:42.230
  • And so I think that'sthe tension sometimes
  • 00:20:43.465 --> 00:20:46.668
  • is that for me thatwas the battle I had.
  • 00:20:46.668 --> 00:20:49.971
  • I imagine that's your journey.
  • 00:20:49.971 --> 00:20:51.573
  • You're fighting because you see
  • 00:20:51.573 --> 00:20:52.974
  • the possibility of what could,
  • 00:20:52.974 --> 00:20:54.509
  • but if you've onlyfocused there,
  • 00:20:54.509 --> 00:20:56.878
  • then you lose thecontentment here.
  • 00:20:56.878 --> 00:20:59.314
  • To be honest, I stillsuck at that a little bit.
  • 00:20:59.314 --> 00:21:03.118
  • Being content now.
  • 00:21:03.118 --> 00:21:05.887
  • - That's the whole story of Paul
  • 00:21:05.887 --> 00:21:07.489
  • and Paul said, "I havelearned how to be content
  • 00:21:07.489 --> 00:21:10.759
  • "in whatever state that I'm in".
  • 00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:12.828
  • And for me, contentmentis enjoying where I am
  • 00:21:12.828 --> 00:21:16.998
  • until I can get towhere I'm going.
  • 00:21:16.998 --> 00:21:19.701
  • Let me enjoy this moment,
  • 00:21:19.701 --> 00:21:21.269
  • 'cause this momentisn't gonna go.
  • 00:21:21.269 --> 00:21:23.238
  • I remember when mykids were little,
  • 00:21:23.238 --> 00:21:25.006
  • I didn't have thisrevelation all the time,
  • 00:21:25.006 --> 00:21:27.242
  • but when the first twowere little, I was like,
  • 00:21:27.242 --> 00:21:30.846
  • "Oh please hurry up,I need you to hurry up
  • 00:21:30.846 --> 00:21:32.981
  • "and go to the refrigeratorand get your own meal,
  • 00:21:32.981 --> 00:21:36.017
  • "take care of yourself,oh please hurry up
  • 00:21:36.017 --> 00:21:39.187
  • "so you can go to thepotty by yourself.
  • 00:21:39.187 --> 00:21:41.857
  • "I want you to be graduatingfrom high school".
  • 00:21:41.857 --> 00:21:44.726
  • You know, it's likeyou in this rush
  • 00:21:44.726 --> 00:21:47.129
  • and you miss so many moments
  • 00:21:47.129 --> 00:21:49.464
  • but then when thatlast one came.
  • 00:21:49.464 --> 00:21:51.266
  • - Slow down.
  • 00:21:52.501 --> 00:21:53.301
  • - Let me enjoy this, ohyour breath smells good.
  • 00:21:54.536 --> 00:21:57.606
  • (laughing)
  • 00:21:57.606 --> 00:21:59.174
  • Everything about itis beautiful, right?
  • 00:21:59.174 --> 00:22:01.877
  • - I am learning so much through
  • 00:22:01.877 --> 00:22:03.979
  • the journey with ouryoungest son, Carson,
  • 00:22:03.979 --> 00:22:06.581
  • who's on the autism spectrum.
  • 00:22:06.581 --> 00:22:08.083
  • I have learned patience.
  • 00:22:09.851 --> 00:22:13.221
  • I have learned how tofight for my child,
  • 00:22:13.221 --> 00:22:17.759
  • in the spirit andalso in the natural.
  • 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:20.395
  • A lot of timesthere are situations
  • 00:22:20.395 --> 00:22:22.964
  • where you have aspecial needs child
  • 00:22:22.964 --> 00:22:25.567
  • and we have a lot of greatpeople that work with him
  • 00:22:25.567 --> 00:22:29.070
  • but often times I dohave to advocate for him.
  • 00:22:29.070 --> 00:22:32.808
  • I've learned how tofight for my children.
  • 00:22:32.808 --> 00:22:36.912
  • I have learned to notunderestimate him,
  • 00:22:36.912 --> 00:22:39.948
  • that he is capableof so much more
  • 00:22:39.948 --> 00:22:44.019
  • than a lot ofpeople think he is.
  • 00:22:44.019 --> 00:22:46.321
  • I've learned to never give up.
  • 00:22:47.322 --> 00:22:49.758
  • I've learned to findjoy in the moment.
  • 00:22:49.758 --> 00:22:54.729
  • I learned how to laugh,I'm gonna cry (laughs).
  • 00:22:56.465 --> 00:22:59.067
  • I learned how to laugh andI've learned how to cry,
  • 00:23:00.502 --> 00:23:02.771
  • and it's okay.
  • 00:23:02.771 --> 00:23:03.805
  • We're on a beautifuljourney with our boy
  • 00:23:06.908 --> 00:23:09.077
  • and he continues to amaze us
  • 00:23:09.077 --> 00:23:11.847
  • with how much he is overcoming.
  • 00:23:11.847 --> 00:23:14.683
  • I told my older kids,"You have no reason
  • 00:23:14.683 --> 00:23:16.451
  • "to not want to, youhave difficulties, yes,
  • 00:23:16.451 --> 00:23:21.456
  • "but look at your little brother
  • 00:23:25.760 --> 00:23:27.195
  • "and look how much heovercomes every single day".
  • 00:23:27.195 --> 00:23:30.398
  • So I've learned toget rid of the excuses
  • 00:23:30.398 --> 00:23:35.303
  • because there arepeople in this life
  • 00:23:35.303 --> 00:23:36.805
  • that fight through a lot ofdifficulty and challenges
  • 00:23:36.805 --> 00:23:39.774
  • and they areovercoming every day.
  • 00:23:39.774 --> 00:23:42.043
  • - That scriptureyou were quoting,
  • 00:23:42.043 --> 00:23:43.478
  • that, "Since I'velearned to be content
  • 00:23:43.478 --> 00:23:45.547
  • "in any and all situations",
  • 00:23:45.547 --> 00:23:46.781
  • well the end of thatlittle portion is,
  • 00:23:46.781 --> 00:23:48.617
  • "I can do all thingsthrough Christ",
  • 00:23:48.617 --> 00:23:50.385
  • and everybody lovesquoting that part.
  • 00:23:50.385 --> 00:23:52.053
  • Put that on the refrigerator,
  • 00:23:52.053 --> 00:23:54.155
  • put that on mugs, butwhat he's talking about,
  • 00:23:54.155 --> 00:23:58.326
  • "I can do all things",what he's talking about
  • 00:23:58.326 --> 00:23:59.594
  • is I can be content nomatter what happens.
  • 00:23:59.594 --> 00:24:01.563
  • - And that actually says,
  • 00:24:01.563 --> 00:24:03.131
  • "I can do all seasonsthrough Christ".
  • 00:24:03.131 --> 00:24:06.701
  • - Content in anyand all of them.
  • 00:24:06.701 --> 00:24:09.004
  • - "Not my will, butYour will be done",
  • 00:24:09.004 --> 00:24:11.206
  • because I trust You.
  • 00:24:11.206 --> 00:24:12.340
  • - Because I trust You.
  • 00:24:12.340 --> 00:24:13.875
  • - And knowing that He'sinterceding for us,
  • 00:24:13.875 --> 00:24:16.278
  • knowing that ourfaith is strong.
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  • - And we're notgonna yield our joy.
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  • No matter the battle.
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  • - And whatever we gothrough, "The Bible" says,
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  • "In all things give thanks",
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  • not for all things, inall things give thanks.
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  • - Amen.
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  • - Cheers to joy!
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  • (clinking)
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  • - I wanna encourageyou that no matter
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  • what you're facing, nomatter what has come at you,
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  • and I know the circumstancesmay seem overwhelming,
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  • but I encourageyou to choose joy.
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  • Let the joy of theLord be your strength.
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  • So Father I just pray right now
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  • for those that are facingtough trials, difficulties.
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  • Father I thank You for joy,
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  • I thank You for strength,I thank You for peace.
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  • The peace of God thatpasses all understanding.
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  • Father I thankYou that right now
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  • in this moment You'regiving us Your peace
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  • and Your joy, inJesus' name, Amen.
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