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Better Together LIVE | Episode 98

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September 2, 2020
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The simple act of saying "yes" to God can change the world. Submitting to God's will is a bold act of pure adventure. | TBN Prayer Line: 1-888-731-1000

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Better Together LIVE | Episode 98

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  • - Sometimes God asks usto do the unexpected.
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  • When we submit to his plansand obey his commands,
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  • we are saying not mywill, but yours be done.
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  • Let's talk about how ouryes to Jesus can change
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  • not only our livesbut the lives of many.
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  • (upbeat music)
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  • - I was thinking abouta time in my life
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  • about seven years agowhen we lost everything.
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  • And I remember wehad a phone call
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  • from the churchwe were working at
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  • that they could no longerfinancially keep us on staff.
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  • We had hit a massive economicdownturn in California.
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  • If you had livedanywhere in the state,
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  • you'd know about therecession that we hit.
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  • And our church wasdesperately trying to hang on
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  • to staff members and families.
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  • And we were at thatpoint part of the cut.
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  • And I rememberfeeling so devastated
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  • after getting off thephone with my husband,
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  • I had just given birthto our fourth child
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  • and I had four boysunder the age of five.
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  • I had my fourth C-sectionand our littlest Beckham
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  • had ended up in theNICU for 10 days.
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  • And I rememberjust when I thought
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  • the sun was aboutto break through
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  • all three kidsget diagnosed with
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  • hand foot and mouth disease
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  • they were quarantinedfor another 10 days.
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  • And I'm finally like recoveringfrom the fore C-section
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  • and the NICU journey andthe hand foot and mouth.
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  • And then we get thisphone call that says,
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  • we financiallycan't keep you on.
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  • And I remember telling myhusband I couldn't talk.
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  • I was so overwhelmedwith emotion.
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  • I hung up the phone andI walked to my bedroom
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  • and I had a fullblown adult tantrum.
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  • If you've ever hadone it's possible.
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  • And I fell on thebed without my arms.
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  • And I cried and I said Godwhy are you doing this to me?
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  • I have not said no to you.
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  • I mean, my whole life.
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  • I said yes to yousince I was 17.
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  • I can barely remember a timewhen I haven't said yes to you.
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  • I mean, I have given you my life
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  • and I've givenyou my whole story
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  • and my marriage and mykids and the whole journey.
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  • And now at the end of allthis you're gonna leave me?.
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  • You're gonna leave meand in not have a plan
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  • and I said to God whatdo you want me to do?
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  • What do you want me to do?
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  • I can't give a childback (chuckles) to you.
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  • I can't go get another job.
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  • I can't nurse my entire family.
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  • What do you want me to do?
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  • And I remember hearinghim saying to me,
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  • I want you to make chicken.
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  • And I was sarcastic like,
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  • okay, God make chickenha ha you make chicken.
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  • And he goes no, no.
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  • I want you to make the chicken.
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  • I want you to getup and make dinner.
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  • - I did make the chicken
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  • - I did make it.
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  • God says, I did makethe chicken ha ha
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  • But I remember saying it to God
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  • and I don't know if you'veever been this place
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  • where I go, you know what?
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  • I don't have any other thing.
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  • I don't know what else to doso I might as well obey you,
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  • like, doesn't really feel like
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  • a big monumental faith moment.
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  • It's almost like well, Idon't know what else to do.
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  • And so I say okay,
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  • I'll make chicken.
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  • I get up that night.
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  • And I clean the house up andget the kids all cleaned up
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  • and light my candles andput on my little music.
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  • And when Ben comes home andwe have dinner that night.
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  • And he's like, do youwanna talk about it?
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  • And I'm like, not yet.
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  • Let's eat I need afull stomach before
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  • I talk about anything critical.
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  • And we sit down that night
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  • and we start to talkthrough our lives
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  • and I'll tell you what you guys,
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  • it wasn't like this radicalphone call on my phone
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  • and the halfwayeverything's solved.
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  • It's all gonna work out.
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  • Radical obedience for me wasloading up all four of our kids
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  • three months after postpartum
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  • moving to a brand new city
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  • with no family, nohome, no income,
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  • just we're gonna just do this.
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  • And I remember drivingin a town that day
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  • and we show up at our houseand we've got four little
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  • and we're unpacking the U hall,
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  • and I'm by myself.
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  • I'd never livedapart from my family
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  • in my 36 years of life.
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  • And I remember sayingGod I'm here for it.
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  • Whatever you wannado I'm here for it.
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  • And I can honestly say that
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  • with that move ofradical obedience,
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  • God opened up my entire life
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  • in terms of the callthat was on my life.
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  • The story that he had for me,
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  • the dreams of my heart Ididn't know would take place,
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  • but there was a radical likeobedience I had to walk in
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  • order to open up thenext section of my life.
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  • And then I wasthinking about this,
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  • not to belabor the pointbut in March we got a call.
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  • Obviously the Covid hadhappened and was still happening
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  • and stay at home order.
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  • And within 24 hours welost 40% of our income.
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  • All of my speakingengagements canceled
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  • one after the other in 48 hours,
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  • five months asspeaking engagements
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  • were just absolutelyoff the books.
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  • And for those of usthat are on the road,
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  • we know that that's kindof how we pay our staff
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  • and that's how we pay our rent,
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  • and that's how we feed our kids,
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  • and that's what life looks like.
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  • And I remembersitting in the office
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  • and I could feel this like God,
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  • what are we gonna do?
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  • I don't know what to do a
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  • and I don't have away to solve this.
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  • And I remember the Lord saying,
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  • remember that time when Itold you to make chicken?
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  • he's like, I think you know what
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  • you're having fordinner tonight.
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  • (laughing)
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  • So I went downstairsand I made chicken.
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  • And I remember it was in thatmoment of radical obedience
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  • that I could bereminded to do the thing
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  • that was in frontof me that day.
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  • And so I don't knowabout you guys,
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  • but this isn'tlike one and done.
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  • This is like a momentby moment, day by day,
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  • doing the very thinghe's asked me to do,
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  • manna 24 hours dothe next thing,
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  • manna at 24 hours todo the next thing.
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  • And I think we as a generation
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  • and even as a society right now,
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  • we are like children in Israel.
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  • We are wandering in the desertand he is giving us manna,
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  • but we have to believe thatthere's a promised land coming.
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  • And I don't know about you guys,
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  • but I feel like it'sbeen my daily bread.
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  • What about you Laurie?
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  • How's it been for you?
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  • - Yeah Absolutely.
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  • You know HavilahI could sit here.
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  • So I'm quite a bitolder than all of you.
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  • And I can say thatknowing the Lord,
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  • following after himfollowing the voice,
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  • the prophetic voice ofGod that speaks to us,
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  • that the harder it looksthe easier it gets.
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  • Now I have justturned a year older
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  • and I have a few scarsand a few stripes.
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  • I remember years,years ago when God...
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  • we had worked at TBN backwhen Matt and I were young
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  • in 1992 we were kindof ripped out at TBN.
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  • And I remember Matt saying,
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  • I feel like I have all theauthority with no responsibility
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  • and God like jerked usout and took us away
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  • and put us in the middle ofHollywood with two little boys.
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  • And I remember the day theprophetic word of the Lord
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  • was to put yourfoot in Hollywood.
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  • And it was very clear fromall the people around us,
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  • all the counselors andeverybody that means something
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  • to you said you gottago to Hollywood,
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  • you've gotta get there,
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  • just put your foot there.
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  • That was what the prophetsaid Just put your foot.
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  • don't care where you move,just put your foot there.
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  • And I'll never forget the day
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  • that we actually sign thepapers on a new home up there.
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  • And it was impossible
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  • but God had given Matt anighttime dream where to move.
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  • And it didn't matterwhether we sold our home
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  • in orange County or not,
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  • this home wasimpossible to get into,
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  • but we had takenseveral board members
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  • and pastors and people up there.
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  • They were likethis is the place,
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  • put your foot there.
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  • And I remembersitting on the floor
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  • at about six o'clockin the morning
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  • on a cold office marble floor.
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  • And a phone call had comefrom the owners of the home.
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  • They were in Chicagoand the man was crying
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  • and he said Laurie,
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  • he said, "we've got to haveyour answer today because
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  • "your escrow is responsible for
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  • "about five escrows right now".
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  • If this escrowdoesn't go through
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  • my escrow doesn't gothrough their escrow does...
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  • And it was justthis domino effect
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  • that was just gonna slaythe world, his opinion.
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  • And I'll never forget We had$8 and 99 cents in the bank.
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  • It was like whenthe Lord spoke to us
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  • and told us to go to Hollywood,
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  • it's like he turnedall the faucets off.
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  • It's like all thefinancial faucets
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  • just went to not even a drip,
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  • it was gone and now he's gone
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  • I want you to move to Hollywood.
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  • And it was already hard enough,
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  • to just kind ofuproot my little boys
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  • and move to themiddle of Hollywood.
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  • I never would have donethat to my children
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  • had it not been thevoice of the Lord.
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  • And I remembersitting on the floor
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  • and in came througha fax machine,
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  • if you don't know whatthat is look it up.
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  • This fax machine was thiscontract from these lawyers
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  • that was this long listof about 120 lawyer names
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  • from this huge Chicago firm.
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  • And it said you areresponsible for this loan
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  • in the next two weeks you areresponsible for this amount,
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  • whether your loancomes through or not.
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  • And I remember sitting on thefloor and Matt's just sitting,
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  • I've had to gethim out of bed God
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  • we have to sign this paper,
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  • or we have to forgetthis right now.
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  • And I'm sitting on thefloor and I'll never forget.
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  • I just sat there scaredspit less in so many ways,
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  • just the impossible but I knew
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  • what the voice ofthe Lord had said.
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  • I knew what was in our hearts.
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  • I knew what our parents,said what our pastors said,
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  • what spiritual influencesin our life had said.
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  • And I knew we had toput our foot there
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  • no matter what I saw.
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  • And I'll neverforget I sat there
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  • and Matt's just looking atme and I just looked at him.
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  • I said, go ahead,go ahead, go ahead,
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  • go ahead, go ahead, goahead, sign those papers.
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  • And he just signed real quick
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  • and he stuck it backin the fax machine.
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  • And that fax wentoff and it was like,
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  • Oh God, you're runningto the fax machine
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  • to tear the paper outthat's what I wanted to do.
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  • But I knew down insidethis is what God
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  • had spoken to our hearts.
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  • And I'm here today to tellyou that everything was okay,
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  • God wants to show his power.
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  • He wants to show his love forus and his power through us.
  • 00:11:43.492 --> 00:11:48.497
  • And that's when we askedfor the impossible Bianca.
  • 00:11:49.932 --> 00:11:53.569
  • And that's what livingradical that obedience to God,
  • 00:11:53.569 --> 00:11:57.473
  • it's so much betterthan sacrifice.
  • 00:11:57.473 --> 00:11:59.842
  • - I love that, infact listening to you
  • 00:11:59.842 --> 00:12:02.478
  • and listening to HavI'm reminded of that
  • 00:12:02.478 --> 00:12:04.780
  • passage in James where it says,
  • 00:12:04.780 --> 00:12:07.349
  • "we can't just behearers of the word.
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  • "We must be doers of the word".
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  • And when the spirit of Godspeaks to us in whatever way,
  • 00:12:11.554 --> 00:12:14.857
  • for Hav like it'snot an audible voice,
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  • it's an internalvoice for Laurie.
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  • It could be throughdreams or visions
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  • or people speakinginto your life.
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  • But I want us to be people who
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  • when we hear Godmove in our life,
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  • that we don't just hearit, but that we do it.
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  • And for me, I'm a stepmom.
  • 00:12:28.003 --> 00:12:29.905
  • I have two step kids.
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  • And I think that the beautifulthing about radical obedience
  • 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:35.311
  • is that we get to seea different side of God
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  • that maybe we haven'tknown or discovered.
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  • And so when I became a stepmom,
  • 00:12:39.849 --> 00:12:42.051
  • I stepped intoparenting two children
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  • that were not mine biologically.
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  • And I think that it'dbe easy to abdicate.
  • 00:12:46.355 --> 00:12:48.657
  • It'd be easy to be likewell, I didn't birth you.
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  • Or you clearly got thatfrom your other parent,
  • 00:12:50.526 --> 00:12:53.262
  • but when God has entrusted us
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  • and we are obedient to the call
  • 00:12:56.565 --> 00:12:58.000
  • that he has placedin front of us.
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  • For me it's raisingtwo step kids.
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  • I have a choice I could obeyGod and rear these children
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  • in the ways of Godor I could abdicate,
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  • and all of us havethat same ability.
  • 00:13:06.642 --> 00:13:09.411
  • Now for me I thinkthat in obeying God
  • 00:13:09.411 --> 00:13:12.081
  • it has given me a perspectiveof learning him more
  • 00:13:12.081 --> 00:13:15.017
  • so as I look at these kidsthat are not mine biologically
  • 00:13:15.017 --> 00:13:18.787
  • I'm reminded of the wildolive branch is grafted in
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  • that we read about in John 15,
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  • that we have been...
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  • If you're a Gentile,you're not a Jew.
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  • Actually I discoveredI'm 1% Jew.
  • 00:13:28.731 --> 00:13:30.499
  • So I like to say I'm Jew-ish,just a little bit of Jewish,
  • 00:13:30.499 --> 00:13:33.435
  • but for the Gentilesin the house,
  • 00:13:33.435 --> 00:13:35.537
  • we have been graftedinto this family
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  • and God has adopted us.
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  • We have been broughtin into this family
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  • we've been adoptedinto the family of God.
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  • And I think that,
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  • that same love.that same kindness,
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  • that same choice asGod has given me.
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  • I get to give mystep kids as well.
  • 00:13:50.419 --> 00:13:52.888
  • And so radicalobedience has taught me
  • 00:13:52.888 --> 00:13:54.757
  • yes to love people thatGod has placed in my life.
  • 00:13:54.757 --> 00:13:58.260
  • But it's also given me a lens
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  • and a perspectiveof how God loves me.
  • 00:13:59.495 --> 00:14:01.563
  • And so I love this ideathat radical obedience
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  • allows us to know, see andunderstand God in new ways.
  • 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:09.238
  • - Yeah, It's so interestingRadical obedience really does
  • 00:14:09.238 --> 00:14:12.408
  • teach you about yourself,
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  • and the strong will thatwe can possess sometimes
  • 00:14:15.177 --> 00:14:18.447
  • I know that's definitelywhat it's taught me.
  • 00:14:18.447 --> 00:14:20.683
  • I remember I was talkingto Lisa Harper one day
  • 00:14:22.451 --> 00:14:25.020
  • and she was talkingabout something
  • 00:14:25.020 --> 00:14:26.789
  • that the Lord asked her to do.
  • 00:14:26.789 --> 00:14:27.990
  • And her response was no sir.
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  • I feel like I saythat all the time.
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  • No, sir, no, sir.
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  • Instead of justwanting to do it,
  • 00:14:33.329 --> 00:14:35.798
  • try to give him therespectful disobedient answer,
  • 00:14:35.798 --> 00:14:39.568
  • but there is no respectfuldisobedient answer.
  • 00:14:39.568 --> 00:14:42.805
  • And so I've just learnedabout my own strong will
  • 00:14:42.805 --> 00:14:45.607
  • and things I'm surethat my husband
  • 00:14:45.607 --> 00:14:48.610
  • has been trying totell me for years,
  • 00:14:48.610 --> 00:14:50.679
  • but especially as a momlooking at my sons and seeing,
  • 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:55.150
  • Oh my goodness, thatstrong will, I know that.
  • 00:14:55.150 --> 00:14:58.587
  • And I've got to help them learnhow to walk after the Lord,
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  • by being obedient aswell, telling my son,
  • 00:15:04.760 --> 00:15:07.162
  • my older son hey buddydoing the right thing
  • 00:15:07.162 --> 00:15:11.233
  • is about doing theright thing immediately.
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  • Not doing the right thingafter you've thought about it,
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  • or after you've heardabout the consequences,
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  • it's doing the right thingimmediately (chuckles)
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  • And to a three year old,he's not trying to hear that.
  • 00:15:20.943 --> 00:15:25.948
  • So but the reality isat my age, me either,
  • 00:15:27.149 --> 00:15:29.852
  • and that's what theLord has taught me.
  • 00:15:29.852 --> 00:15:31.620
  • It's just there arestill some lessons
  • 00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:32.988
  • that I wanna teach you.
  • 00:15:32.988 --> 00:15:34.456
  • There's still some thingsthat I want to get out
  • 00:15:34.456 --> 00:15:36.625
  • and radical obedience cansnatch you out of that thing.
  • 00:15:36.625 --> 00:15:39.728
  • And so it's a journey
  • 00:15:39.728 --> 00:15:41.764
  • and I've been walking withthe Lord for years now,
  • 00:15:41.764 --> 00:15:44.900
  • and I'm not a disobedientperson even by nature.
  • 00:15:44.900 --> 00:15:48.737
  • But the reality is I have thisstrong will that the Lord,
  • 00:15:48.737 --> 00:15:52.174
  • when I feel something aboutsomething in particular,
  • 00:15:52.174 --> 00:15:55.911
  • I want to do that,
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  • or I want it to be that way
  • 00:15:56.979 --> 00:15:58.514
  • and just letting the Lordremind me like Hey, it's my way.
  • 00:15:58.514 --> 00:16:02.351
  • When I say that I am theway the truth and the life
  • 00:16:02.351 --> 00:16:05.487
  • that applies in every facetof life you can imagine.
  • 00:16:05.487 --> 00:16:09.391
  • I am the way do not makeyour own way ,I am the way.
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  • So he just reminds meover and over again
  • 00:16:13.495 --> 00:16:16.632
  • and that way for sure.
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  • - Yeah, I think tolot of the times,
  • 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:20.669
  • When I've heard about obedient,
  • 00:16:20.669 --> 00:16:22.538
  • when we talk about obedience,
  • 00:16:22.538 --> 00:16:24.807
  • so often our mindsfirst jump to the cost.
  • 00:16:24.807 --> 00:16:28.710
  • what is that going to cost me?
  • 00:16:28.710 --> 00:16:30.879
  • What is the cost for me?
  • 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.449
  • Or what am I going to lose?
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  • And I really believethat the spirit of God
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  • wants us to keep oureyes and our hearts fixed
  • 00:16:38.187 --> 00:16:41.356
  • on what the gain is inobedience to the Lord.
  • 00:16:41.356 --> 00:16:46.361
  • And when we're cost minded,we're self preservative.
  • 00:16:47.763 --> 00:16:51.467
  • But when we trust hisgoodness and his glory
  • 00:16:51.467 --> 00:16:54.837
  • and his sovereigntyand we know Lord,
  • 00:16:54.837 --> 00:16:57.039
  • if you're calling me to it thereis gain for myself in ways,
  • 00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:02.044
  • spiritually spirituallife in abundant,
  • 00:17:03.178 --> 00:17:04.413
  • but there's alsogained for others.
  • 00:17:04.413 --> 00:17:06.915
  • His will, his heart is always
  • 00:17:06.915 --> 00:17:09.751
  • that not just thegospel would come to us,
  • 00:17:09.751 --> 00:17:11.887
  • but that it wouldmove through us.
  • 00:17:11.887 --> 00:17:13.689
  • And so I've at leastseen that a lot of times
  • 00:17:13.689 --> 00:17:15.991
  • his call to obedience my yes
  • 00:17:15.991 --> 00:17:19.928
  • makes a way for othersor blesses others.
  • 00:17:19.928 --> 00:17:22.264
  • And this may seem like sucha small, silly example,
  • 00:17:22.264 --> 00:17:24.666
  • but I have a lot,
  • 00:17:24.666 --> 00:17:25.868
  • I was totallyresonating with you
  • 00:17:25.868 --> 00:17:27.503
  • when Covid and everything hit,
  • 00:17:27.503 --> 00:17:29.972
  • our itineraryschedule just stopped
  • 00:17:29.972 --> 00:17:32.808
  • there wasn't we wereno longer speaker,
  • 00:17:32.808 --> 00:17:34.576
  • It was done everything wasjust sort of off the books.
  • 00:17:34.576 --> 00:17:38.680
  • And I remember sitting therereally just before the Lord,
  • 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:43.685
  • I trust you and I don't knowwhat this season looks like,
  • 00:17:45.254 --> 00:17:48.257
  • but have your way.
  • 00:17:48.257 --> 00:17:50.192
  • And he began to speakand move in ways.
  • 00:17:50.192 --> 00:17:53.262
  • The call to obediencelooked very different
  • 00:17:53.262 --> 00:17:56.031
  • from what I wanted to fight for,
  • 00:17:56.031 --> 00:17:58.667
  • from what I wantedwhich was still,
  • 00:17:58.667 --> 00:18:01.336
  • how do I make this wholeministry model work,
  • 00:18:02.471 --> 00:18:04.206
  • where we're still strikingwhile the iron is hot
  • 00:18:04.206 --> 00:18:07.176
  • and moving forward.
  • 00:18:07.176 --> 00:18:08.410
  • And he so rebuked meon that, to be honest.
  • 00:18:08.410 --> 00:18:11.346
  • And he said, ministry isadministering my gospel,
  • 00:18:11.346 --> 00:18:14.516
  • where I call youand how I call you.
  • 00:18:14.516 --> 00:18:16.585
  • And so I just satdown with him one day
  • 00:18:16.585 --> 00:18:19.421
  • and I said beforeon a past episode,
  • 00:18:19.421 --> 00:18:22.324
  • I have three kids,
  • 00:18:22.324 --> 00:18:23.825
  • I have a four year old, a twoyear old and a one year old.
  • 00:18:23.825 --> 00:18:25.561
  • And I just found out that
  • 00:18:25.561 --> 00:18:26.795
  • we're expecting ourfourth praise God.
  • 00:18:26.795 --> 00:18:28.797
  • But we also have a sweetnext door neighbor,
  • 00:18:28.797 --> 00:18:30.999
  • Maddie who is six
  • 00:18:30.999 --> 00:18:33.268
  • and we cared for herall through the summer
  • 00:18:33.268 --> 00:18:35.804
  • when sort of sub-Covidrestrictions lifted
  • 00:18:35.804 --> 00:18:38.473
  • and her parents hadto go back to work.
  • 00:18:38.473 --> 00:18:40.075
  • And they're like what do we do?
  • 00:18:40.075 --> 00:18:41.009
  • We don't have family near
  • 00:18:41.009 --> 00:18:42.477
  • we'll then also theschools in this area
  • 00:18:42.477 --> 00:18:44.713
  • have gone all digital,the public schools.
  • 00:18:44.713 --> 00:18:47.382
  • And so I remember it justoverwhelmed me one day to
  • 00:18:47.382 --> 00:18:51.286
  • to reach out to hermom and say hey,
  • 00:18:51.286 --> 00:18:53.055
  • do you want us to continue this
  • 00:18:53.055 --> 00:18:55.123
  • and facilitate schoolingeven for your daughter
  • 00:18:55.123 --> 00:18:57.693
  • and reached out toother neighbors.
  • 00:18:57.693 --> 00:18:59.494
  • It just overwhelmed my heart,
  • 00:18:59.494 --> 00:19:01.029
  • the number of familieswho were in such unique
  • 00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:03.899
  • and challengingpositions right now.
  • 00:19:03.899 --> 00:19:06.134
  • And I'm home I gotnowhere to travel.
  • 00:19:06.134 --> 00:19:08.637
  • I'm alreadywrangling the kiddos.
  • 00:19:08.637 --> 00:19:10.806
  • And so what's a few more?
  • 00:19:10.806 --> 00:19:12.441
  • and we now have seven kidswho are in under the roof
  • 00:19:12.441 --> 00:19:16.144
  • and it's wild and wonderful,
  • 00:19:16.144 --> 00:19:18.146
  • but they have structure,
  • 00:19:18.146 --> 00:19:19.748
  • they have help with school,
  • 00:19:19.748 --> 00:19:22.084
  • they have all the thingsthat so many are struggling
  • 00:19:22.084 --> 00:19:25.254
  • because they just,
  • 00:19:25.254 --> 00:19:26.321
  • especially in the Atlanta area,
  • 00:19:26.321 --> 00:19:27.823
  • there's just a lot of familieswho don't have the ability
  • 00:19:27.823 --> 00:19:30.692
  • to juggle all of thisand still make ends meet.
  • 00:19:30.692 --> 00:19:33.295
  • And I just thought Lord,
  • 00:19:33.295 --> 00:19:34.630
  • you're call to an obedience
  • 00:19:34.630 --> 00:19:36.465
  • was so invisible in this season.
  • 00:19:36.465 --> 00:19:38.467
  • And he just remindedme that's right.
  • 00:19:38.467 --> 00:19:39.968
  • I do Holy work in quiet caves.
  • 00:19:39.968 --> 00:19:42.170
  • I birth the savior of theworld in a quiet cave,
  • 00:19:42.170 --> 00:19:44.473
  • it was unseen.
  • 00:19:44.473 --> 00:19:45.974
  • I knit together life inthe quiet cave of a womb.
  • 00:19:45.974 --> 00:19:48.410
  • Like I'm in the prayerclosets and the quiet caves.
  • 00:19:48.410 --> 00:19:51.313
  • And I'm in thischaotic household
  • 00:19:51.313 --> 00:19:53.215
  • where kids are coming fromall different backgrounds,
  • 00:19:53.215 --> 00:19:56.451
  • but we're worshipingin the morning
  • 00:19:56.451 --> 00:19:58.086
  • and we're praying together
  • 00:19:58.086 --> 00:19:59.354
  • and they have safetyand provision.
  • 00:19:59.354 --> 00:20:01.323
  • And he was likejust walk with me,
  • 00:20:01.323 --> 00:20:03.392
  • Galatians 5:25,
  • 00:20:03.392 --> 00:20:04.893
  • "live by the spirit, stayin step with the spirit"
  • 00:20:04.893 --> 00:20:06.261
  • What does that looklike season to season?
  • 00:20:06.261 --> 00:20:09.031
  • Sometimes we think weknow which way to go.
  • 00:20:09.031 --> 00:20:12.100
  • And the Lord is the one whoreally directs our steps.
  • 00:20:12.100 --> 00:20:14.770
  • And so sometimes radicalobedience can look really small,
  • 00:20:14.770 --> 00:20:17.606
  • really hidden, really unseen.
  • 00:20:17.606 --> 00:20:19.775
  • And I think he says, good job.
  • 00:20:19.775 --> 00:20:23.111
  • Because that thenblesses others as well.
  • 00:20:23.111 --> 00:20:26.214
  • And our life shouldbe laid down for that,
  • 00:20:26.214 --> 00:20:29.117
  • by whatever means.
  • 00:20:29.117 --> 00:20:30.352
  • And so that's beenreally cool to see,
  • 00:20:30.352 --> 00:20:31.887
  • 'cause I like the radicalthat then results in big.
  • 00:20:31.887 --> 00:20:34.623
  • And he's like go wrangleall the time in humans.
  • 00:20:34.623 --> 00:20:37.626
  • - Can we just clap it up forMo because all those kids.
  • 00:20:39.061 --> 00:20:41.730
  • (clapping)
  • 00:20:41.730 --> 00:20:43.699
  • - I tell you I'm in mymother's den right now.
  • 00:20:43.699 --> 00:20:46.168
  • And this is a great vacation
  • 00:20:46.168 --> 00:20:47.869
  • - I love it.
  • 00:20:49.938 --> 00:20:51.173
  • - Am like how doyou feel about me
  • 00:20:51.173 --> 00:20:52.207
  • shipping my four kids to you?
  • 00:20:52.207 --> 00:20:54.042
  • How do you feel about that?
  • 00:20:54.042 --> 00:20:55.277
  • What's that four more?
  • 00:20:55.277 --> 00:20:56.611
  • - Send them over
  • 00:20:56.611 --> 00:20:58.447
  • - Yeah, I was thinkingI have a four boys
  • 00:20:58.447 --> 00:21:01.883
  • and I had four in five years.
  • 00:21:01.883 --> 00:21:03.885
  • So they're in thisreally condensed
  • 00:21:03.885 --> 00:21:07.723
  • like the little locker room,
  • 00:21:07.723 --> 00:21:10.125
  • but one of the things thatwe try to say in our house
  • 00:21:10.125 --> 00:21:12.861
  • from early age is Iwould tell my boys,
  • 00:21:12.861 --> 00:21:15.664
  • I want you to obey right away
  • 00:21:15.664 --> 00:21:17.699
  • all the way and witha happy heart, right?
  • 00:21:17.699 --> 00:21:20.635
  • So when they werelittle they loved it
  • 00:21:20.635 --> 00:21:22.938
  • as they've gotten olderit's world challenge.
  • 00:21:22.938 --> 00:21:25.140
  • But you know I wouldsay that to them.
  • 00:21:25.140 --> 00:21:26.775
  • What do I want you to do I?
  • 00:21:26.775 --> 00:21:28.009
  • I want you to obeyall the way right away
  • 00:21:28.009 --> 00:21:29.344
  • with a happy heart.
  • 00:21:29.344 --> 00:21:30.846
  • And I remember one day I wasgetting on my eldest son.
  • 00:21:30.846 --> 00:21:33.248
  • And just like Iasked you to obey me
  • 00:21:33.248 --> 00:21:35.450
  • all the way right awaywith a happy heart.
  • 00:21:35.450 --> 00:21:37.919
  • And you did whatI asked you to do,
  • 00:21:37.919 --> 00:21:39.788
  • but you are not happy andyou did not do it right away.
  • 00:21:39.788 --> 00:21:42.724
  • And the Holy spirit said, whydon't you obey me like that
  • 00:21:42.724 --> 00:21:46.228
  • I was like Aww,
  • 00:21:46.228 --> 00:21:47.729
  • but the Holy spiritjust so clearly.
  • 00:21:48.864 --> 00:21:50.799
  • Are you obeying meright away all the way
  • 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:52.701
  • and with a happy heart?
  • 00:21:52.701 --> 00:21:54.102
  • And I'm like whydidn't, really like,
  • 00:21:54.102 --> 00:21:56.538
  • but I'm an adult Ihave adult problems.
  • 00:21:56.538 --> 00:21:58.507
  • - Practice what you preach
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  • - Yeah yeah yeah but itwas a little bit of like,
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  • Oh, obedience iswith a happy heart.
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  • So obedience isn'tjust like fine,
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  • I'll do it God I've gotnothing better to do.
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  • It really requires us tohumble ourselves and say,
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  • and I'm gonna do itwith joy and gratitude.
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  • And I don't know about you guys,
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  • but right now gratitude'sreally hard to find,
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  • especially in a pandemic,
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  • it is hard to find andI'm challenging myself.
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  • I don't know Laurie,
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  • did you guys do thatwith your boys at all?
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  • And did you have anyphrases that you use
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  • to (indistinct)listening to you?
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  • - You know my husband calledit willful disobedience,
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  • and I didn't think that I hadreally heard it put like that,
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  • but I remember him kind ofbeing hard on the boys sometimes
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  • and that they didn't do it quick
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  • and with a happyheart and all that,
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  • that he would go okay,
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  • you're in trouble becauseyou just willfully disobeyed.
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  • And I was like willfullydisobeyed, but you know what?
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  • We look at thechildren of Israel,
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  • we look back in theBible and they talk about
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  • all the murmuringand all that stuff
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  • even though God had suppliedthis pillar of fire,
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  • this cloud by day,
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  • manna every morning,
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  • and yet we can look atthem and just say, Oh,
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  • you complained allthe way through.
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  • And then you can put thatspotlight right on us.
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  • What if the Bible was beingwritten today about us?
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  • What if our lives, whatabout our situation?
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  • The famine and the droughtand the plague came
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  • and the fire came,
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  • what is our attitude?
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  • We serve this beautiful livingGod that supplies for us,
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  • maybe you have had prayers
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  • that haven't been answeredyet the way you think,
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  • but you know what?
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  • God is going toanswer our prayers.
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  • God is going to see hiswill set forth in our lives
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  • and we have to trust andwe have to believe that.
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  • And we have to beobedient in God,
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  • we pray today foreveryone watching
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  • God for us Lord that we willbe quick to obey your spirit
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  • quick to obey your voice.
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  • God as you want topour out your spirit
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  • and then you want to bless,
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  • and you want to show yourselfso real in our lives.
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  • God let us be openvessels to you.
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  • Ones that pour out your life,
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  • giving water God to a hurting,hopeless, desperate world
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  • that is lost without you God
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  • let us shine your light
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  • father, to thepeople around us God,
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  • and continue to be the righteous
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  • and to walk by faithevery step of the way
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  • father and I thank you forit in Jesus name. Amen.
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  • is always here for you.
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  • Thanks for joiningall of these sweet,
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  • beautiful women today.
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  • Allowing God to change ourhearts is the boldest step
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  • that we can take towards freedom
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  • tomorrow We're going to betalking about repentance.
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  • We'll see you thenGod bless you,
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  • we love you, bye bye.
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