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Better Together LIVE | Episode 96

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  • - We are called tobe bold for Christ,
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  • but where does ourconfidence come from?
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  • As children of Godwe're empowered
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  • by the Holy Spiritto be fearless,
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  • come on let's talk about it.
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  • (soft music)
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  • - Before becoming a recordingartist and a speaker,
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  • I was a seventh grademath teacher in the Bronx,
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  • like full on teaching,like number lines,
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  • and pre algebra andall those things.
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  • And I used to sing to mystudents every Friday,
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  • if they behaved (laughs),
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  • and they would behave.
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  • My husband EJ and I have afriend named Monica Coates
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  • who wrote a book called,
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  • "The Beginner's Guide tothe Gospel Music Industry."
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  • And she said, "Hey, can youguys read a draft of my book."
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  • And so we were like, "Yeah."
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  • Being good friends until I wasreading a draft of her book,
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  • and the first chapter said,
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  • "If you want to bein this industry,
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  • "then first you need to pray
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  • "and see what the Lordhas for you to do.
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  • "Put aside any of thethings you thought,
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  • "and just pray."
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  • And so I thought, "Well,to be a good friend,
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  • "you know, I got todo the exercise."
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  • So I prayed (laughs)and the Lord said,
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  • "I want you to sing."
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  • And here I am smack dab in themiddle of a master's program,
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  • I have finished seminary,
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  • but I was in a newmaster's program,
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  • I was these kids teacher,and the Lord said to sing,
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  • and it was the boldest thing
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  • that the Lord hadever asked me to do.
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  • Because as a kid, I have aminister dad and a musician mom,
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  • and I had always told myself,
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  • "I'm never gonna be eitherof those two things."
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  • (laughs) Because I want toreceive a check every two weeks,
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  • like most people inthe world (laughs).
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  • And here's the Lord askingme to do them both in one,
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  • and so it waspretty bold for me,
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  • and the crazy thingis my husband agreed.
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  • And so we packed up, left NewYork and moved to Nashville.
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  • And of course, you know, allkinds of practical things
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  • because we are verypractical people by nature,
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  • all kind of practicalthings tried to seep in,
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  • but the reality was theLord had told us to do this,
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  • and so we were very,very confident about it.
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  • But it was toughat first, you know,
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  • just getting to Nashvilleand realizing we had no jobs,
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  • and we were steppingout on faith
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  • and we had to wait onthe Lord for everything.
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  • So that was tough,but looking back,
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  • I cannot believe we did it,
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  • but I'm so glad that we did.
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  • Our boys are livingcompletely different lives
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  • than they would have been,
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  • and it's a joy, you know.
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  • What's Christianboldness to you Mo?
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  • - Oh man, I feel like thehour I first came to believe
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  • there was, yeah, thismark, this difference,
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  • and this boldness thatjust overwhelmed me,
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  • I mean, his lovewas so radical to me
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  • in the state thathe found me in,
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  • it kind of compelled me out,encourage right out the gates.
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  • I remember, and the wayI can kind of connect
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  • to your story as well,
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  • I remember throughthe writing process.
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  • I began writing, and sharingmy story and, you know,
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  • releasing bits of my testimony,
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  • and it was right beforeI wrote my second book,
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  • but it was the wordof the Lord that came,
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  • and downloaded exactly whathe wanted me to speak into.
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  • And what he said as I wassitting in my kitchen,
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  • like newly married andtrying to navigate what now,
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  • you know, boldnessis a believer,
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  • looked like in each new season,he downloaded the title,
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  • "Sex, Jesus, andthe Conversationsthe Church Forgot."
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  • And I remember writing down,
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  • it was like I couldn't getthe words out fast enough.
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  • Yes Lord, yes, he's speakingevery topic he wants me to hit.
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  • And hypothetically statingthere in my kitchen alone,
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  • that felt reallyamazing and wonderful,
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  • and I was excited about it.
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  • And then I put the pen downafter that download stopped,
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  • and I said, "I don'tknow about this,
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  • "I don't know about this one,
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  • "this is a lot, this is a lot."
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  • When I reallystarted to flesh out,
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  • and pray through what speakinginto something like that,
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  • sharing the deepest,
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  • hardest kind of messiestparts of my testimony,
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  • what that really wasgoing to look like.
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  • But the word of the Lord,the Holy Spirit had moved.
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  • And I knew that he had spoken,
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  • and I knew that itwas his instruction.
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  • And so I was scared, youknow, bumped up against fear,
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  • I bumped up against shame,
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  • I bumped up against confusion,
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  • I bumped up againstsort of every roadblock
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  • we would kind of like to say,
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  • "Okay, it's just a closed door.
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  • "If I'm feeling this,
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  • "let's just not do, notfollow through with that."
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  • But it was the HolySpirit who had moved,
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  • and deep down I knew that.
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  • So that was what compelledinto a layer of boldness
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  • to speak into thingsthat in a lot of places
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  • weren't reallybeing spoken into,
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  • and to share some of thehardest deepest things.
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  • And what was profound aboutthat and beautiful about that
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  • is that I couldn'ttotally make sense of it,
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  • but he knew exactlywhat he was doing.
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  • He knew exactly who he desiredto reach with those words,
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  • and who he desired to set freefrom their bondage and shame,
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  • and, you know, I really foundeven in the face of that fear,
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  • in the face of that gut punch,
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  • not really wantingto do the bold thing,
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  • I found that sometimes
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  • there's just needssomeone else to go first.
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  • They need someone else to take
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  • that bold step when they'vebeen prompted by the Lord
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  • and to open their mouth,or open their hands,
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  • or open the way forothers to realize,
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  • "Oh wow, we are trulyfree and free indeed."
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  • And I can testify to thegoodness of the Lord,
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  • even amidst the hardestparts of my story.
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  • And so that was certainlya season where I feel
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  • that he called a lot of boldness
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  • that was outsideof my comfort zone,
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  • and I would never lookback or change a bit of it.
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  • I'm so glad thathe chose me really
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  • for that assignment and what aprivilege it is to serve him,
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  • even if we wanna faintthinking about our mother
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  • reading those words, it'sjust a privilege (laughs).
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  • It's just a privilegeto get to be bold,
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  • in response to God, so whatabout you have Havilah,
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  • I've seen many boldmoves in your life,
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  • what's one thatcomes to your mind?
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  • - Gosh, you know, Iwas thinking about it
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  • as we talk about this topic.
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  • I don't know of anymoment where we serve God,
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  • where he doesn't askus to make a bold move.
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  • I think about Jesus incalling his disciples,
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  • the first thing he didwas in boldness asked them
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  • to come follow him.
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  • And I remember at 17-years-old,I was a church girl,
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  • living the verymiddle, you know,
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  • trying to be cool at school,
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  • trying to be underthe radar at church,
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  • and the Holy Spiritspeaking to me
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  • as I'm in the backseat of a car,
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  • on my way to a party one night,
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  • and I heard him say to me,"Havilah, what are you doing?
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  • "You gotta get out of this car."
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  • And my heart began to race,
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  • and I knew that he wassaying something to me,
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  • but it was like, not in the time
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  • that I thought hewould be talking to me.
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  • I assumed he'd talkedto me in a holy place,
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  • like a church, orin a prayer meeting,
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  • I didn't think he'd talkedto me in a backseat of a car
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  • listening to like '90s R&B,
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  • and I'm on my way to aparty with these guys.
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  • And all of a sudden I knewI had to say something,
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  • but you guys know it'sthat moment when you know,
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  • it's almost like,come follow me,
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  • I got to step out of theboat, and this is the moment.
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  • And I remember when Godasks us to do something,
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  • alongside of obedience,
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  • there's grace to do whathe's asking us to do,
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  • and we sometimes don't alwaysknow that in the moment,
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  • but when we look back, werealize that simultaneously
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  • in the obedience,grace was alongside,
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  • and I just kinda said out loud,
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  • "Hi, can you turnthe music down?"
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  • They turned the music downand I just say out loud,
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  • "I have a call ofGod on my life,
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  • if you wanna comewith me, you can,
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  • "but this is what I'm gonna do."
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  • And of course, they didn'tcome with me at all,
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  • in fact, they dropped me offat home without saying a word,
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  • which was a totalbuzzkill for the night.
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  • But I think about how thatone moment in my life,
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  • where I had to standup in boldness,
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  • and declare who I was gonna be,
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  • and not (indistinct) fear,was critical to every step
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  • that I've made alongthe way with him.
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  • And so I don't know a believerthat hasn't been asked
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  • to live a bold or do a, takea bold step towards Jesus,
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  • I just don't thinkit's possible,
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  • if you're reallygonna live out loud
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  • and live for him wholehearted,
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  • then you're gonna have tomake a public declaration
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  • that he is Lord andsavior of your life.
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  • And I think that that'sjust what it looks like,
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  • and in my life, and notto belabor the point.
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  • If I'm not making boldstatements in my life
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  • and living bold for him,
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  • then there'ssomething inside of me
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  • that has gotten comfortablein my walk with him,
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  • and I'm not reallypushing myself to realize
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  • that I'm not madefor this world,
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  • that there is an eternal world
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  • that I will reap the benefitsfor how I live today,
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  • and so I ended upchallenging myself,
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  • and I think there's a lot ofpeople that are watching today
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  • that probablyexperienced that too,
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  • where you're saying, "It'stime to make some bold moves."
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  • - I totally agreewith you Havilah,
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  • I don't think thatyou can be a Christian
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  • and not move in boldness,
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  • and I know what that feels,I know what that feels like.
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  • If it's not spirit empowered,
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  • you look foolish,many, many times.
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  • And 'cause there'sa lot of people
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  • that feel bold and they'rejust gonna say something
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  • and they shouldrather stay quiet
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  • in my humble, humble opinion.
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  • But when your HolySpirit empowered,
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  • there's nothing like it,
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  • and when you stepout, others follow,
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  • but it takes faith to step out.
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  • I'm so proud ofyour choice Havilah
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  • because you're probably sitting,
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  • where you sit in ministry today,
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  • because of that choiceright there that you did.
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  • And many of us, you know,those choices come along,
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  • and we have to make them
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  • and we have to make themwhether or not your friends,
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  • you know, tell you to getout of the car, right then,
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  • I'm glad at leastthey took you home.
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  • But you know, one time we hadjust moved into this new home,
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  • and this was 34 years ago or so,
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  • and I'll never forget.
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  • We came home onenight and I'm very,
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  • harmony is veryhigh on my chart,
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  • of all the charts that you take,
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  • empathy I think isfirst, harmony is second.
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  • And there is a fineline between, you know,
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  • wanting peace and all of that
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  • and then there is a fine line
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  • that cuts like asword with harmony,
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  • that if you come in, you messwith my harmony, watch out.
  • 00:11:29.512 --> 00:11:34.049
  • So we come home late one night,
  • 00:11:34.049 --> 00:11:36.252
  • we've just moved intothis little house,
  • 00:11:36.252 --> 00:11:38.554
  • and it has been broken into,
  • 00:11:38.554 --> 00:11:40.823
  • and the front doors wideopen, the back doors wide open
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  • and I can see throughthe kitchen windows,
  • 00:11:44.160 --> 00:11:46.462
  • every drawer in the house,in my kitchen is open,
  • 00:11:46.462 --> 00:11:49.999
  • and it's like one or twoo'clock in the morning,
  • 00:11:49.999 --> 00:11:51.901
  • it's pitch-black and it's awful.
  • 00:11:51.901 --> 00:11:53.669
  • And I'll never forgetMatt takes off his shoes,
  • 00:11:53.669 --> 00:11:58.674
  • and he's down to hissocks and you know,
  • 00:11:58.674 --> 00:12:01.777
  • we're just flabbergastedfor a minute,
  • 00:12:01.777 --> 00:12:03.779
  • and I go, "What are you doing?"
  • 00:12:03.779 --> 00:12:05.314
  • He goes, "I'm gonnasneak around the house,
  • 00:12:05.314 --> 00:12:08.484
  • and I'm gonna go in."
  • 00:12:08.484 --> 00:12:09.885
  • I go, "Oh no, we're not."
  • 00:12:09.885 --> 00:12:12.087
  • And I just went, I bet he said,
  • 00:12:12.087 --> 00:12:14.123
  • "You basically kickedthe front door down,
  • 00:12:14.123 --> 00:12:16.525
  • "started slammingall the lights,
  • 00:12:16.525 --> 00:12:18.460
  • "and screaming, getout of my house."
  • 00:12:18.460 --> 00:12:21.330
  • So I know what thatboldness, and he said,
  • 00:12:21.330 --> 00:12:24.834
  • "My whole, thank you, God,
  • 00:12:24.834 --> 00:12:26.769
  • "okay, well now it's a fight(laughs) change of plans.
  • 00:12:26.769 --> 00:12:30.739
  • But thankfully noone was in there.
  • 00:12:30.739 --> 00:12:32.842
  • So I know that boldness,
  • 00:12:33.709 --> 00:12:36.645
  • that can rise up and we'regonna be speaking about it.
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  • Bianca, you are onebold, brave woman.
  • 00:12:39.215 --> 00:12:43.419
  • - So here's the thing.
  • 00:12:43.419 --> 00:12:44.787
  • I think that when missLaurie was talking about
  • 00:12:44.787 --> 00:12:47.823
  • like superwoman and boldness,
  • 00:12:47.823 --> 00:12:49.458
  • I think that's mysecond reaction.
  • 00:12:49.458 --> 00:12:51.660
  • But my first reaction is never
  • 00:12:51.660 --> 00:12:53.395
  • that in fact, everytime that I've told God
  • 00:12:53.395 --> 00:12:56.098
  • that I don't wanna dosomething, he makes me do it.
  • 00:12:56.098 --> 00:12:58.901
  • And so now I'm prayingthese prayers like,
  • 00:12:58.901 --> 00:13:00.870
  • "God I will never have amansion in Laguna beach,
  • 00:13:00.870 --> 00:13:04.573
  • "and I will neverhave a six pack."
  • 00:13:04.573 --> 00:13:06.742
  • Because all the thingsthat I say I don't wanna do
  • 00:13:06.742 --> 00:13:08.410
  • like God makes me do that.
  • 00:13:08.410 --> 00:13:09.712
  • But once I have my cometo Jesus moment with God,
  • 00:13:11.146 --> 00:13:14.450
  • then I can get onboard with boldness,
  • 00:13:14.450 --> 00:13:16.051
  • but this is what I will say.
  • 00:13:16.051 --> 00:13:17.887
  • God asks my husbandand I to step out,
  • 00:13:17.887 --> 00:13:20.956
  • to plant a church almost,yeah almost two years ago.
  • 00:13:20.956 --> 00:13:24.627
  • And I'm listening toJanice, I'm listening to Mo,
  • 00:13:24.627 --> 00:13:26.662
  • I'm listen to Havilah,
  • 00:13:26.662 --> 00:13:27.897
  • and like all of ushave this moment
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  • where we know that God hascalled us to do something,
  • 00:13:29.431 --> 00:13:31.934
  • but there's like that pause.
  • 00:13:31.934 --> 00:13:33.402
  • And I wanna justspeak to maybe someone
  • 00:13:33.402 --> 00:13:35.838
  • who is watching online,
  • 00:13:35.838 --> 00:13:37.273
  • who is in the pause,
  • 00:13:37.273 --> 00:13:38.807
  • where you feel like God hascalled you to do something,
  • 00:13:38.807 --> 00:13:40.776
  • and this is the momentwhere you get to decide.
  • 00:13:40.776 --> 00:13:43.145
  • Let me encourage you that fromLaurie kicking down doors,
  • 00:13:43.145 --> 00:13:46.148
  • and beating up home-breakers,
  • 00:13:46.148 --> 00:13:47.917
  • and Janice in Nashvillewriting songs and singing,
  • 00:13:47.917 --> 00:13:51.353
  • whatever it is thatmoment of the pause
  • 00:13:51.353 --> 00:13:53.756
  • is gonna be the thing, thatis gonna be the impetus
  • 00:13:53.756 --> 00:13:55.791
  • that leads you intothe other side.
  • 00:13:55.791 --> 00:13:58.227
  • I don't know whatyour other side is,
  • 00:13:58.227 --> 00:13:59.528
  • but it's gonna requirethat step of faith.
  • 00:13:59.528 --> 00:14:01.463
  • And I could tell you twoyears into church planting,
  • 00:14:01.463 --> 00:14:03.766
  • has it been easy?
  • 00:14:03.766 --> 00:14:05.000
  • Oh, honey no ithas not been easy.
  • 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.102
  • Have I wanted to quit?
  • 00:14:07.102 --> 00:14:08.003
  • I have wanted to quit.
  • 00:14:08.003 --> 00:14:09.538
  • Have I wanted to lovinglyshake people and be like,
  • 00:14:09.538 --> 00:14:12.041
  • "Do you know Jesus?"
  • 00:14:12.041 --> 00:14:13.475
  • And I'm talking about my kids.
  • 00:14:13.475 --> 00:14:14.910
  • Yes, it has been all of that.
  • 00:14:14.910 --> 00:14:16.545
  • But I will say on the otherside, just two years in,
  • 00:14:16.545 --> 00:14:20.349
  • I am praising the Lordfor his faithfulness,
  • 00:14:20.349 --> 00:14:23.218
  • and I don't wanna be like,an afterschool special,
  • 00:14:23.218 --> 00:14:26.622
  • I don't wanna it soundlike a Kodak commercial,
  • 00:14:26.622 --> 00:14:28.223
  • but when we take thatstep of boldness,
  • 00:14:28.223 --> 00:14:29.291
  • when we take that step of faith,
  • 00:14:29.291 --> 00:14:30.859
  • we get to see Godmove in our lives
  • 00:14:30.859 --> 00:14:33.128
  • that we don't know we wouldbe able to unless we take
  • 00:14:33.128 --> 00:14:36.031
  • that step forward.
  • 00:14:36.031 --> 00:14:37.399
  • So Janice, now we areon the other side,
  • 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:39.568
  • let's talk about someof the challenges.
  • 00:14:39.568 --> 00:14:42.137
  • What challengeshave you experienced
  • 00:14:42.137 --> 00:14:43.739
  • that have made boldnessmaybe a little hard?
  • 00:14:43.739 --> 00:14:46.508
  • - Well, you know, I thinkit takes one good time
  • 00:14:46.508 --> 00:14:49.845
  • for a boldness not to play outthe way you thought it would,
  • 00:14:49.845 --> 00:14:54.683
  • to kind of let fearand creeped out in
  • 00:14:55.851 --> 00:14:58.754
  • for the next time the Lordasks you to do something.
  • 00:14:58.754 --> 00:15:01.390
  • And so I think it'sone of those things
  • 00:15:01.390 --> 00:15:04.026
  • where we wonder, "Do I haveto have a certain personality
  • 00:15:04.026 --> 00:15:06.895
  • "to be bold?
  • 00:15:06.895 --> 00:15:08.163
  • "Do I have to have acertain personality?
  • 00:15:08.163 --> 00:15:09.531
  • "Do I have to beextroverted, or fearless?"
  • 00:15:09.531 --> 00:15:12.568
  • And I think we think thatfearlessness is the goal.
  • 00:15:12.568 --> 00:15:17.573
  • But I think the goal is tohave courage in the Lord,
  • 00:15:19.742 --> 00:15:23.045
  • and confidence in the Lord,
  • 00:15:23.045 --> 00:15:24.580
  • and he'll lead usinto that place.
  • 00:15:24.580 --> 00:15:27.149
  • I have a spiritual mom whoused to always say to me,
  • 00:15:27.149 --> 00:15:31.387
  • "Do it scared."
  • 00:15:31.387 --> 00:15:32.488
  • (laughs) You know what I mean?
  • 00:15:32.488 --> 00:15:33.589
  • Like if fear is the thing, yeah,
  • 00:15:33.589 --> 00:15:36.125
  • if fear is the thingthat's holding you back,
  • 00:15:36.125 --> 00:15:37.926
  • just do it scared,
  • 00:15:37.926 --> 00:15:39.461
  • because the reality is ifhe's calling you to do it,
  • 00:15:39.461 --> 00:15:42.865
  • like, you know, I think,who said it Mo or Havilah
  • 00:15:42.865 --> 00:15:45.401
  • that he's going toequip you to do it.
  • 00:15:45.401 --> 00:15:47.536
  • And so these days, theboldest moves often
  • 00:15:47.536 --> 00:15:50.939
  • that I have to make,
  • 00:15:50.939 --> 00:15:52.674
  • the most courageousmoves I have to make,
  • 00:15:52.674 --> 00:15:55.377
  • are oftentimes moreeither internal,
  • 00:15:55.377 --> 00:15:57.713
  • or having to dowith me being a mom.
  • 00:15:57.713 --> 00:16:00.349
  • I think a lot oftimes we believe
  • 00:16:00.349 --> 00:16:01.850
  • that boldness has to dowith leaving being a teacher
  • 00:16:01.850 --> 00:16:05.354
  • and becoming a singer,
  • 00:16:05.354 --> 00:16:06.822
  • and that kinda has the, youknow, the church appeal,
  • 00:16:06.822 --> 00:16:11.260
  • where you can tellthat testimony later
  • 00:16:11.260 --> 00:16:12.961
  • and people would be like, "Wow."
  • 00:16:12.961 --> 00:16:14.563
  • But the reality isthe boldest places
  • 00:16:14.563 --> 00:16:17.132
  • the Lord is calling meto move in my right now,
  • 00:16:17.132 --> 00:16:19.668
  • have to do with hearinghim whisper to me
  • 00:16:19.668 --> 00:16:22.438
  • as to how to be a mom, and howto surrender my kids to him.
  • 00:16:22.438 --> 00:16:27.443
  • That's the hardestthing right now
  • 00:16:28.610 --> 00:16:30.212
  • is hearing that whisper andcourageously following it,
  • 00:16:30.212 --> 00:16:33.048
  • seeing that Goliathin my own life,
  • 00:16:33.048 --> 00:16:35.617
  • from inside, theinternal conflicts,
  • 00:16:35.617 --> 00:16:39.121
  • and saying "No, by the powerof God, you get slain."
  • 00:16:39.121 --> 00:16:43.192
  • And so, you know, theseare the bold moves
  • 00:16:43.192 --> 00:16:45.060
  • that the Lord is callingme to these days,
  • 00:16:45.060 --> 00:16:47.596
  • you know what I'm saying?
  • 00:16:47.596 --> 00:16:48.730
  • 'Cause I know it can.
  • 00:16:48.730 --> 00:16:50.532
  • - Sometimes boldness isnot moving cross country.
  • 00:16:50.532 --> 00:16:53.102
  • Sometimes boldness isstanding up to the things
  • 00:16:53.102 --> 00:16:55.971
  • that nobody in thegenerations ahead of you
  • 00:16:55.971 --> 00:16:58.474
  • were able to stand up to,you know, what about you Mo?
  • 00:16:58.474 --> 00:17:01.243
  • - Yeah, I love that Janice,
  • 00:17:02.578 --> 00:17:04.012
  • I resonate so deeplywith that internal layer,
  • 00:17:04.012 --> 00:17:07.516
  • to so much of thecall of boldness.
  • 00:17:07.516 --> 00:17:09.651
  • And honestly, I think alot often about Peter,
  • 00:17:09.651 --> 00:17:13.122
  • who pre Holy Spirit falling,
  • 00:17:13.122 --> 00:17:16.492
  • was passionate, was zealouswas committed, loved the Lord,
  • 00:17:16.492 --> 00:17:21.497
  • would seeminglycheck all the boxes.
  • 00:17:22.631 --> 00:17:24.867
  • I mean, in many ways was bold,
  • 00:17:24.867 --> 00:17:26.635
  • he dives forward andslices, you know,
  • 00:17:26.635 --> 00:17:29.104
  • the Roman's guard ear
  • 00:17:29.104 --> 00:17:30.305
  • and it's not evennecessary as boldness,
  • 00:17:30.305 --> 00:17:32.007
  • but it is, we see allof the right ingredients
  • 00:17:32.007 --> 00:17:37.012
  • in a life thatwould appear bold.
  • 00:17:38.147 --> 00:17:40.816
  • But yet when he'schallenged by a slave girl,
  • 00:17:40.816 --> 00:17:44.586
  • " Were you the onewho was with Jesus?"
  • 00:17:44.586 --> 00:17:46.989
  • Still ingest his flesh.
  • 00:17:46.989 --> 00:17:48.657
  • He crumbles in thatmoment, and he denies,
  • 00:17:48.657 --> 00:17:50.926
  • and three times he denies.
  • 00:17:50.926 --> 00:17:52.628
  • Even though Peter hasbeen our passionate man
  • 00:17:52.628 --> 00:17:55.531
  • through the wholeof the scriptures.
  • 00:17:55.531 --> 00:17:57.432
  • But what we then see take place
  • 00:17:57.432 --> 00:17:59.835
  • is that they sit, theywait, the shaking comes,
  • 00:17:59.835 --> 00:18:04.106
  • the fire falls, the HolySpirit fills them, fills Peter.
  • 00:18:04.106 --> 00:18:09.111
  • And cut to Acts 4, he'sstanding toe-to-toe
  • 00:18:10.245 --> 00:18:12.314
  • with the Phariseesand the Sadducees,
  • 00:18:12.314 --> 00:18:14.349
  • who have all the power todestroy his life, his future,
  • 00:18:14.349 --> 00:18:18.120
  • I mean, this is thePharisees and the Sadducees
  • 00:18:18.120 --> 00:18:20.088
  • in comparison to a slave girl,
  • 00:18:20.088 --> 00:18:22.424
  • and he is standingtoe-to-toe saying,
  • 00:18:22.424 --> 00:18:24.526
  • "I cannot stop tellingabout everything
  • 00:18:24.526 --> 00:18:26.895
  • "that I've seen heard."
  • 00:18:26.895 --> 00:18:28.230
  • The differencehere is the spirit
  • 00:18:28.230 --> 00:18:31.333
  • that is consuming him, isburning like a flame within him,
  • 00:18:31.333 --> 00:18:36.338
  • and that's where the true,
  • 00:18:37.272 --> 00:18:39.641
  • you know, God led boldness,that is affective,
  • 00:18:39.641 --> 00:18:42.644
  • that is timely, that isinternal first and foremost,
  • 00:18:42.644 --> 00:18:47.649
  • really, you know,manifests victory.
  • 00:18:49.484 --> 00:18:52.187
  • And we see so much play outfor the kingdom of heaven,
  • 00:18:52.187 --> 00:18:55.657
  • but it was the shakingthat had to happen,
  • 00:18:55.657 --> 00:18:59.928
  • it was the spiritthat had to fall,
  • 00:18:59.928 --> 00:19:01.663
  • and what I seelooking at this text
  • 00:19:01.663 --> 00:19:03.732
  • and certainly what I'veexperienced in my own life,
  • 00:19:03.732 --> 00:19:05.901
  • is that it's often actuallyhumility that proceeds boldness.
  • 00:19:05.901 --> 00:19:10.872
  • So it's upside down,it's kind of flipped,
  • 00:19:12.074 --> 00:19:15.510
  • but the more welay ourselves down,
  • 00:19:15.510 --> 00:19:17.779
  • and the more we allowhis oil to fill,
  • 00:19:17.779 --> 00:19:20.349
  • it's that humilitythat my life is yours,
  • 00:19:20.349 --> 00:19:23.986
  • use it as you intent,and not by strength,
  • 00:19:23.986 --> 00:19:26.388
  • not by might, but by his spirit,
  • 00:19:26.388 --> 00:19:28.757
  • that can affectively, I mean,it pulls the gospel forward.
  • 00:19:28.757 --> 00:19:33.161
  • (laughs) Can affectivelystand toe-to-toe
  • 00:19:33.161 --> 00:19:35.664
  • with the very ones who wouldsay, "You're done here."
  • 00:19:35.664 --> 00:19:38.100
  • And say, "I'm sorry, Ican't, I can't stop."
  • 00:19:38.100 --> 00:19:40.736
  • And I see that, you know,humility proceeds boldness,
  • 00:19:40.736 --> 00:19:44.139
  • and certainly in my ownlife, it's usually dying
  • 00:19:44.139 --> 00:19:47.342
  • to my wants, or my thoughts,
  • 00:19:47.342 --> 00:19:48.677
  • or my fears orwhatever it may be
  • 00:19:48.677 --> 00:19:50.245
  • that precedes him actuallymoving really effectively,
  • 00:19:50.245 --> 00:19:53.849
  • and it's very much internal,very much internal.
  • 00:19:53.849 --> 00:19:57.319
  • Have you experiencedthat too Havilah?
  • 00:19:57.319 --> 00:19:59.388
  • - Oh, wow, yes, Mo I lovehow you related it to Peter,
  • 00:19:59.388 --> 00:20:02.557
  • 'cause I think in the church,
  • 00:20:02.557 --> 00:20:03.892
  • we think boldness is aggression.
  • 00:20:03.892 --> 00:20:06.328
  • (laugh) I don't know if that'sreally biblical, you know,
  • 00:20:06.328 --> 00:20:09.531
  • I know a lot of quietpeople that are very bold,
  • 00:20:09.531 --> 00:20:12.801
  • but they don't haveto stand on a rooftop
  • 00:20:12.801 --> 00:20:14.770
  • and tell everybody.
  • 00:20:14.770 --> 00:20:16.305
  • So I relate to you Janice,when you said it's internal,
  • 00:20:16.305 --> 00:20:20.075
  • and I was thinking about like,
  • 00:20:20.075 --> 00:20:22.678
  • Esther would be a classic,bold woman in the Bible, right?
  • 00:20:22.678 --> 00:20:26.014
  • And she has her wholegenerations like waiting for her
  • 00:20:26.014 --> 00:20:28.950
  • to save them, but theydon't even know it,
  • 00:20:28.950 --> 00:20:30.819
  • but she's got this moment.
  • 00:20:30.819 --> 00:20:32.120
  • And I think about howshe plans that dinner
  • 00:20:32.120 --> 00:20:35.157
  • to tell everybody,and then she pauses,
  • 00:20:35.157 --> 00:20:37.726
  • and she does it all again,like the following time.
  • 00:20:37.726 --> 00:20:41.163
  • And then finally,does the bold act.
  • 00:20:41.163 --> 00:20:43.765
  • And kinda what youwere saying Bianca,
  • 00:20:43.765 --> 00:20:45.801
  • there's a moment Ithink in boldness
  • 00:20:45.801 --> 00:20:48.103
  • where the HolySpirit's asking us,
  • 00:20:48.103 --> 00:20:50.172
  • "But are you stilldependent on my voice?
  • 00:20:50.172 --> 00:20:52.941
  • "Yeah, you can do it,
  • 00:20:52.941 --> 00:20:54.543
  • "but are you stillgonna listen to my yes,
  • 00:20:54.543 --> 00:20:56.745
  • "and are you also gonnarespond to my no."
  • 00:20:56.745 --> 00:20:59.247
  • And I think we get introuble when we're assuming
  • 00:20:59.247 --> 00:21:02.050
  • that God is in theyes or in the no,
  • 00:21:02.050 --> 00:21:03.885
  • he's not in the leading.
  • 00:21:03.885 --> 00:21:05.253
  • And so I've foundthat in my own life,
  • 00:21:05.253 --> 00:21:08.623
  • there's a lot ofthings I wanna do
  • 00:21:08.623 --> 00:21:11.526
  • that I would haveassumed was bold,
  • 00:21:11.526 --> 00:21:14.029
  • but it's in the no,
  • 00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:15.697
  • that God asked me touse, that God is in.
  • 00:21:15.697 --> 00:21:19.234
  • And I was thinkingabout an opportunity
  • 00:21:19.234 --> 00:21:21.536
  • that came my way acouple months ago,
  • 00:21:21.536 --> 00:21:24.272
  • and it seemed great onpaper and I was excited,
  • 00:21:24.272 --> 00:21:27.309
  • and then I rememberthe Holy Spirit saying,
  • 00:21:27.309 --> 00:21:29.311
  • "No, I don't wantyou to do that."
  • 00:21:29.311 --> 00:21:31.646
  • And I wrestled,because I'm thinking,
  • 00:21:31.646 --> 00:21:34.149
  • "This is what I should be doing,
  • 00:21:34.149 --> 00:21:35.851
  • "and this is why I'vebeen asked to do this,
  • 00:21:35.851 --> 00:21:38.387
  • "and this seems right."
  • 00:21:38.387 --> 00:21:40.055
  • And I heard the HolySpirit say to me,
  • 00:21:40.055 --> 00:21:41.823
  • "Are you gonna bea follower of me?
  • 00:21:41.823 --> 00:21:43.892
  • "Are you just gonnabe a leader for me?"
  • 00:21:43.892 --> 00:21:45.727
  • And I'm like, "No, no, Iwanna be a follower of you."
  • 00:21:45.727 --> 00:21:49.064
  • And I heard him just gentlysay, "Then don't, don't do it."
  • 00:21:49.064 --> 00:21:52.067
  • And it was like,I was being tested
  • 00:21:52.067 --> 00:21:54.669
  • with opportunity versus beinga follower of Jesus Christ,
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  • like what am Igonna be led to do?
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  • And so I feel thattension all the time.
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  • And I think it takesjust as much maturity
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  • to say yes in a bold way,
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  • as well as to say no in abold way, and both are bold.
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  • So I find that as well,specifically in the culture
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  • that we're facing right now,
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  • and all of the things thatwe are being presented.
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  • We can champion things thatGod's either asking us not to.
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  • and we assume, well, thisis the righteous thing,
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  • and this is the rightthing, rather than saying,
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  • "Okay, Holy Spirit, whatdo you want me to do?"
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  • And I think there's neverbeen a more strategic time
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  • for us to ask the Holy Spiritwhat does boldness look like.
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  • And forgive me if I wrappedit up in my personality,
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  • rather than wrap it up asa follower of Jesus Christ,
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  • and I think that's really,really critical in my own life.
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  • So I wanna pray for us today,
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  • as we get into this wholeweek of living bold, right?
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  • And understanding whatChrist has asked us to do.
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  • Lord, we thank you,that it is not a mistake
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  • that every person that'swatching this today
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  • is right on time,
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  • you have to finally set themup, to hear this message,
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  • to hear these stories,
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  • to just experiencethis moment with us.
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  • And Holy Spirit we ask you,to break into every situation,
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  • every relationship,every work experience,
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  • every person that's on thefront line, I ask right now
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  • that you would show them whatboldness looks like today.
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  • Lord, they wouldnot put you in a box
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  • or not assume that boldnessis in the yes or in the no
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  • but it's in the present leading.
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  • And so Holy Spirit you said,
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  • that if we're gonnabe your followers,
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  • then we can hear your voice.
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  • And so I ask right now,
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  • that every person that'swatching right now
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  • would begin to hear your voice,
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  • in a profound way that wouldradically shift our lives
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  • in the next season.
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  • I thank you God, thatit is not too much,
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  • that everythingyou ask us to do,
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  • you said you have notgiven us a spirit of fear,
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  • but of love, power,and a sound mind,
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  • and I declare that overevery person watching today.
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  • We thank you thatyou are with us,
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  • in every moment inJesus mighty name, amen.
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  • - Amen, amen, you know Ilove that story about Peter
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  • because it says that
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  • when they were filledwith the Holy Spirit,
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  • so they're completelyterrified at first,
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  • and then they're filledwith the Holy Spirit,
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  • and their boldness then
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  • after the Holy Spirithad come on them,
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  • just astonished theJewish authorities.
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  • And then the Bible says that,
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  • "They recognized thatthey had been with Jesus."
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  • And I love that.
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  • We're gonna talkabout this all week.
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  • You know, our "BetterTogether Community"
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  • Is always here for you.
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  • and let us know howwe can pray for you.
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  • Thanks for joiningall of us today.
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  • You know, we can askGod for anything.
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  • Tomorrow we're talkingabout being persistent,
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  • and bold in prayer.
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  • We will see you then welove you all, bye-bye.
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